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I'm not in the firewood business per se but I do sell a few cords every year there's a ton of downed or dying oak on the property. As some else here have said most of the actual sellers are out or behind on filling orders when the wet stuff hits the ground. I will usually wait until December to start advertising, obviously by that time demand is high and so are premium prices.

Like everything else in California prices are higher seasoned split oak in summer is around 250-275. Last year I had no problem getting 320 for oak delivered and stacked. This year I'm going to try my luck around 350. Lake Tahoe prices for oak are crazy people are asking 400 before the season has started. I think 475 will happen by December or January.

To get a feel for your market I'd start looking at Craigslist for what your competition is going for.
 
I'm not in the firewood business per se but I do sell a few cords every year there's a ton of downed or dying oak on the property. As some else here have said most of the actual sellers are out or behind on filling orders when the wet stuff hits the ground. I will usually wait until December to start advertising, obviously by that time demand is high and so are premium prices.

Like everything else in California prices are higher seasoned split oak in summer is around 250-275. Last year I had no problem getting 320 for oak delivered and stacked. This year I'm going to try my luck around 350. Lake Tahoe prices for oak are crazy people are asking 400 before the season has started. I think 475 will happen by December or January.

To get a feel for your market I'd start looking at Craigslist for what your competition is going for.
Your prices absolutely amaze me. If I ever charged over $200 a full cord here (about two average size truckloads), I would be cutting my deliveries in half. The USA is so different from one state or region to the next that it's mind boggling. Then again, three years ago we were looking at propane prices in the Midwest that were four to five times what they are today thanks to deal that Obama cut with China. Propane means nothing to some states and everything to others. It all depends on where you live. Firewood might be in a similar camp.
 
Your prices absolutely amaze me. If I ever charged over $200 a full cord here (about two average size truckloads), I would be cutting my deliveries in half. The USA is so different from one state or region to the next that it's mind boggling. Then again, three years ago we were looking at propane prices in the Midwest that were four to five times what they are today thanks to deal that Obama cut with China. Propane means nothing to some states and everything to others. It all depends on where you live. Firewood might be in a similar camp.

His prices are in line with mine. About $50 higher, but where I am $350 cords are not unheard of. Its still half as much as heating with oil at our prices. I do $250 cords early in the season and go up to $300 late season if I still have dry wood to sell.
 
Eab or not doesn't affect my prices. I do not believe you can make any money under $200 a cord here in North Central pa. I have mainly oak and charge accordingly, a little maple, ash, black birch, etc.... it was cut and split at a minimum of one year. I also hold onto a stash and charge a premium price in February or so when nobody has any but green, if it is a mild winter it just goes to the next year. Don't undersea yourself and if it's green please disclose that, don't say seasoned if it isnt.
Wow! That's cheap here....Ours goes for about $350/cord CAD ($290/cord USD) picked up.
 
I don't deliver less than a cord. I've got better things to do than drive around for $100 of wood. Can come by the shop and pickup though.

One big hurdle with deliveries is one order tying up the truck so I can't keep going until it's delivered.

I deliver all over, some customers are 100-150+ miles away.
Our cords are all $350 each here.
 
There is a guy around here that sells birch for 300 a cord PLUS delivery and he sells easily 30 cords a year. Granted he has highway frontage for unlimited advertising.

Otherwise I'm seeing mixed hardwood going for about 200 a cord delivered. Oak will command a premium from there.
 
There is a guy around here that sells birch for $300 a cord PLUS delivery and he sells easily 30 cords a year. Granted he has highway frontage for unlimited advertising.

Otherwise I'm seeing mixed hardwood going for about $200 a cord delivered. Oak will command a premium from there.
Well, maybe that's what we have to start doing--have a low price ($200 a full cord) for mixed hardwoods and then bump it to $300 for the premium (oak, locust, red elm, hard maple, or ash in my case). That would exclude soft maple, cottonwood, poplar, willow, linden, etc. However, I never include those with the mixed hardwoods used for heating in stoves and inserts. So, I'm probably already 90% premium in the mixed deliveries and the vast majority of those deliveries is composed of splits from big rounds. And, most of my customers want the mixture because variety makes great fires.

Whoever said pricing in this business was easy? Not I.
 
Paying to stack must be a east coast thing or something I havent herad of that here. Like I said above, I charge a premium price so I feel delievery and stacking should be included, now this would not apply if the area was around the back of the house, up the stairs ect. I try and clarify that on the phone prior to delivery and havent had anyone try and cheat yet ;)
 
Around here stacking is normally extra unless a shrewd buyer negotiates it into the sale.

Again there's such a vast difference in quantity, quality, and amount of actual dryness of "cord" of wood for sale that it's not surprising that prices will vary by 100 percent or more. I've seen cords of hardwood at $145 delivered and then $300 plus delivery from the guy I mentioned. Although some of the advertised lower price guys are selling wet wood as seasoned, face cords as full cords, pickup loads as full cords, etc.

I'd honestly consider doing firewood as a second job if I had unlimited access to cheap wood, and a market that would support $250 a cord plus wood. In reality my scrounge list of 20 or so cords would be gone in the first month and then I'd only have access to pine which causes chimney fires (lol).
 
Networking with local arborists has supported me. I have one guy who gives me wood and another who gives me wood and will send me business (mobile splitting).
Even if a guy "gives you wood", firewood is anything but free and never will be. Processing and delivering firewood costs a bundle of both time and resources. Who pays for your truck, fuel, splitter, chain saws, time, etc.?
 
Even if a guy "gives you wood", firewood is anything but free and never will be. Processing and delivering firewood costs a bundle of both time and resources. Who pays for your truck, fuel, splitter, chain saws, time, etc.?
Belive me, I am aware. But with this arrangement I can spend my time and money processing, not scrounging. My business model would be non functional without being delivered wood. Mobile splitting keeps me busy while I am not selling wood.
 
There is a guy around here that sells birch for 300 a cord PLUS delivery and he sells easily 30 cords a year. Granted he has highway frontage for unlimited advertising.

Otherwise I'm seeing mixed hardwood going for about 200 a cord delivered. Oak will command a premium from there.

I sell birch for $275/cord plus delivery, I sell about 500 cords a year. Could sell more if I had more time or more help.
 
Even if a guy "gives you wood", firewood is anything but free and never will be. Processing and delivering firewood costs a bundle of both time and resources. Who pays for your truck, fuel, splitter, chain saws, time, etc.?
A guy in Ohio occasionally puts an open Craigslist post to all who offer "free firewood" cut down trees because they don't want to pay for professional removal. Then all the costs of firewood.

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Years ago, many years ago, I used to sell a little wood to make a little spending money. My dad cut 5ft pulp wood and hauled it on a flatbed ton truck most of my life. I learnt years ago what a cord of wood looks like stacked on a ton truck. I have a buddy that sells around a 100 truck loads a year on his 3/4 ton truck. He charges $100 per load. He throws it in the bed and rounds it up pretty high and calls it a cord. He calls me up time to time and asks me if I need a load. Usually he only calls if he has a load on his truck he cant get rid of. I have bought a few loads off him, but have never paid his asking price, I usually give him $50 a load and he accepts it because he needs to get rid of it and he knows I dont really need it. We have stacked the wood in my shed and measured out his full advertised cords a few times. Most wood I have ever gotten is about 2/3 of a cord and that was a really big load on his truck. You simply cant get a full cord of wood on a 8ft bed truck if its thrown loose in the bed. To do so would mean it would have to have side boards on the bed that extends about a foot above the top of the cab and the wood would have to be rounded up pretty good. Even stacked tight in the same truck bed, the wood would have to be stacked almost all the way to the top of the cab.

Advertised prices for wood varies a good bit in my area. Like every where else, you have lots of sellers and lots of buyers that dont know what a real cord of wood is. Most dont know the difference between seasoned wood and green wood. Lots of sellers around here will cut wood into rounds this summer, split it right before selling it, and call it seasoned.

I dont sell fire wood, but if I did My prices would probably be in the $250 for a full cord range. I would only sell full cords delivered in my dump trailer and dumped not stacked. My 6x10 dump trailer will haul a full cord stacked, with slightly rounded in the middle, with my 2ft high side boards. If I extend the sideboards to be 3ft high I could haul a full cord dumped in the trailer. Either way, I am not into stacking wood for anybody other than myself, so if a customer wants the wood, fine, if not thats ok to.

The way I see it, there are plenty of folks that buy wood, most have been burnt by other wood sellers. I am not into dealing with argumentative customers, so its my wood, you want it, pay my price and agree with my terms and if you dont buy it, someone else will. Of course, I am not trying to build a firewood business, but I can tell you that if you start letting customers dictate how you run your business, they will run it into the ground for you and you will end up worn out and broke.

Set your prices, deliver what you say you will deliver, and do what you say you will do, and let the fly by niters drive there customers to your doors. And they will drive their customers to your door by selling green wood as seasoned, by shorting customers on volume, and by them selling out and not being able to deliver on demand.
 
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