hey fallers, 45 or sideslope?

[BarkBuster20]

Bark Buster , How do you fall your strip ??????
.
. From what I,m reading it seems like you prefer pouring them down hill , Do you have a crew of Buckers ????????
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. If you were bushlin , and single jackin , you would starve to death ...

everything i fall i limb n usually buck. and i dont "pour them straight down the mountain as you imply, but i like to go with the lesser degree if at all possible. 45 degree is extreme for a lot of the mountains here.
and if i were bushlin or single jackin i would use the most effective method, if i had to change what i was used to i would.

 

[oregoncutter]

Might get folks angry

I think the guy might be a firewood cutter! Nothing wrong with that they still fall trees, and buck chunks off, but in my opinion from cutting firewood since I was a kid, and actually cutting timber (which in my opinion includes bucking and doing it efficiently and safely are two totally different cups of tea with some similairities. It's kind of like when You're headed home and some old boy stops You along the road headed for the brush piles to cut firewood and starts telling You about the trees big trees he fell last spring!

 

[oregoncutter]

everything i fall i limb n usually buck. and i dont "pour them straight down the mountain as you imply, but i like to go with the lesser degree if at all possible. 45 degree is extreme for a lot of the mountains here.
and if i were bushlin or single jackin i would use the most effective method, if i had to change what i was used to i would.

What part of Oregon are You working in right now?

 

[BarkBuster20]

I think the guy might be a firewood cutter! Nothing wrong with that they still fall trees, and buck chunks off, but in my opinion from cutting firewood since I was a kid, and actually cutting timber (which in my opinion includes bucking and doing it efficiently and safely are two totally different cups of tea with some similairities. It's kind of like when You're headed home and some old boy stops You along the road headed for the brush piles to cut firewood and starts telling You about the trees big trees he fell last spring!

i do thinning jobs.

 

[BarkBuster20]

What part of Oregon are You working in right now?

in the vernonia area

 

[oregoncutter]

I have little experience in thinning units I have mostly worked clearcuts, are You thinning for harvest or thinning to promote tree growth? We have pretty steep country down here in Douglas County too.

 

[BarkBuster20]

I have little experience in thinning units I have mostly worked clearcuts, are You thinning for harvest or thinning to promote tree growth? We have pretty steep country down here in Douglas County too.

primarily for growth....but i would like to be doing what your doing. know of any open positions?

 

[oregoncutter]

No

It's pretty tough going down here right now the markets not real great, We are on a fire level 3 no cutting unless You have a waiver or are in a special circumstance allowing it. there are only a few that have their own cutting crews, other than that if you want to contract like I do,bid jobs, and pay to be insured, and have a decent reputation for the quality of You're work, and bid jobs low enough to barely come out ahead, it's worth a shot. But I really don't know any other line of work so as long as I keep the lights on I am happy with it.

 

[oregoncutter]

Maybe in Alaska

primarily for growth....but i would like to be doing what your doing. know of any open positions?

How about it TrampBusheler can Ya use a sidekick up there?

 

[tramp bushler]

Do you know Marvin Dennis , He,s from Vernonia . , Tim McCloud is also from Vernonia ... Both good cutters ..So it,s not an Oregon thing ...........Cut with them @ False Island ..........

 

[oregoncutter]

High lead

You guys mainly high lead up there in A.K, or skiddin on the ground?

 

[tramp bushler]

Unfortunatly , No ... ... Our timber industry is in bad bad shape , I,m cutting firewood in the interior .... Which isn't bad ' today I worked 5 hours and cut 300 bucks of wood ... Starting to get a reputation for being a good value here in the Copper River valley .......... Using a tiny little 353 Husky . , But I might put a 24" bar on it as my back is telling me it needs to be a little straighter than it is ..... Should just use the 460 for a while , but I enjoy the feeling of getting over on something , making not bad money with a little Pre Commercial Tree thinning saw ..... Course the highest dollar days I,ve ever had with a saw was thinning trees ... , At least on individual days .............

 

[oregoncutter]

Unfortunatly , No ... ... Our timber industry is in bad bad shape , I,m cutting firewood in the interior .... Which isn't bad ' today I worked 5 hours and cut 300 bucks of wood ... Starting to get a reputation for being a good value here in the Copper River valley .......... Using a tiny little 353 Husky . , But I might put a 24" bar on it as my back is telling me it needs to be a little straighter than it is ..... Should just use the 460 for a while , but I enjoy the feeling of getting over on something , making not bad money with a little Pre Commercial Tree thinning saw ..... Course the highest dollar days I,ve ever had with a saw was thinning trees ... , At least on individual days .............

Yeah, I know I am not old enough to be wearing down yet, but I have put some hard miles on myself so I like to run a 28''-32'' bar cutting firewood saves me from bending over all day.

 

[tramp bushler]

Here in the Interior , Im cuttine White Spruce , Black Spruce amd Silver Pople ..... most are 12" or less on the stump . I got a Solo 681 lastyear and was running a 28" on it . but had troubles with the saw . Am hoping I will get it back to work soon , spent the winter running 460 stihl . and got this 353 Husky this summer ..... It,s not quite a 346 but it is a good saw so far ...... If I was in Southeast .I would be running the 460 and getting bigger saws ....... But I wouldn,t be making much more money , . ...

 

[slowp]

Here's my "strip" from yesterday. I lay it out for easy pickup using the boot scuffling yarding method.

No need for wedges, but I thought I would get stung by bees. It turned out to be a grayish old chunk of flagging.

 

[BarkBuster20]

i can outfall anyone

 

[coastalfaller]

Now hold it here .. Did you start your strip from the bottom of the unit ,or the top ....... You always start at the bottom and work up .... I try to always keep my timber @ about 15 degrees below level ... Meaning , I want the tops to be below the butt , but not so much I,m spending all day UP AND DOWN the hill..... A little down lets the tree run out a little and isn,t such a sudden stop so I break alot less of the log .. Push the break out into the tops is how I was taught ...
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. starting at the bottom and working up as you go back and forth across the hill will have almost no logs above you .....
Falling them straight down the mountain will mostly get you sent walkin down the road ,kickin rocks mad and talkin to yourself up here ............

I'm a bit late getting in on this thread, but precisely what I was going to say! Well said! It helps to think of a typewriter when you think of working your face, like the man said, back and forth across the hill, no logs above you. The rule of thumb here is if your tree does bounce below your fell & bucked, then that's the way it stays. You never go below your f&B, that's a recipe for disaster and it's happened too many times to too many good men who are no longer with us.

 

[BarkBuster20]

I'm a bit late getting in on this thread, but precisely what I was going to say! Well said! It helps to think of a typewriter when you think of working your face, like the man said, back and forth across the hill, no logs above you. The rule of thumb here is if your tree does bounce below your fell & bucked, then that's the way it stays. You never go below your f&B, that's a recipe for disaster and it's happened too many times to too many good men who are no longer with us.

well said, but i think what i was saying was being taken slightly out of context.

 

[oregoncutter]

Nice strip

Here's my "strip" from yesterday. I lay it out for easy pickup using the boot scuffling yarding method.

No need for wedges, but I thought I would get stung by bees. It turned out to be a grayish old chunk of flagging.

Must be a tree a tree length job, shouldn't have much trouble yarding those out! you're hired in my opinion!

 

[BarkBuster20]

Must be a tree a tree length job, shouldn't have much trouble yarding those out! you're hired in my opinion!

when i start working again, ill show you some interesting pics.