Homelite Chainsaws

[Eccentric]

Got my first big homelite last week. it is a C-71 that hadn't run in 16 years. was sitting in an old welding shop gathering dust. it was stuck, but only lightly, more like a hesitation. put some blaster in it and got a ratchet on the flywheel nut and it moved with the first pressure. guess the pull start just didn't have enough leverage. whew. next is the points, no spark there, but at least the flywheel came off easy. the carb box looks clean and bright but it's the tank that worries me. i can see the fuel pick up is embedded in a layer of goo that reminds me of the la brea tar pits. there has got to bea 1/4" of stuff in there. i can't pry the filter out of it so may do some soaking like eccentric referred to earlier. may have to pull the front of the tank off. any other ideas on this ? here's a pic of the bar and the number on it. i get the feeling it doesn't have a lot of time on it. now i have another 80cc saw to go with my l-71 mcculloch.the piston looks clean, no scoring. i want to hear this thing run.

Nice C-Series score! I'd pull the plug again and shoot some light oil down there. Even WD40 will help. Crank it a buncha times with the plug out to distribute it. The rings were probably lightly rusted to the cylinder, and the PB busted it loose. That stuff isn't much of a lubricant however. You won't wanna leave that ring set dry any longer.

The points are probably rusty/dirty from sitting in the same damp air that made the rings stick. Since you've already got the flywheel off, you should service those bad boys. Make sure the condensor is well grounded where it attaches to the saw as well. As for your tank, I have a thought...

Looking at the pics, it looks like somebody replaced the tank cover. The paint's not even close to the 'fade' of the rest of the saw. I see what looks like black sealant of some kind on the gasket. Maybe they poured a buncha sealant in the tank as well. That could be your 'tar pit' on the bottom (if it's not just stale gas). I think you're gonna have to pull the cover off in any case. Tank gaskets are available on feebay. Be careful with those thin slotted head screws however...

 

[leed3349]

homelite c-71

nice find i found a c-7 what a nice old saw had some of the same problems that you have but with a carb kit and points she runs awsome good luck lee

 

[turtle561]

thanks eccentric/lee. i cleaned up all the electric contacts on the points/condenser box and grounds. the points wern't even pitted. has a nice blue spark now. checked the kill switch too, works fine.
eccentric- i think your right about the tank. i'm gonna pull the front and get it over with, looks too nasty to deal with through the fill hole. the mess is mostly on the bottom and part of one side so it looks like some bad fuel. the tip of the screwdriver goes in 1/4".
put some blaster on the little slot head screws. they do look a little scarry, knowing my record with things slotted.lol.
i've never seen the roller bearing starter before, pretty nifty. very positive hook up, unlike some of the fairbank morse ones i'm use to. do you grease those rollers ? my instinct sezs yes but would appreciate advice from someone who knows. some nice machine work there.
onward........

 

[briantutt]

Never taken one of those particular models apart but a manual (hammer operated) impact screwdriver works wonders on stuck slotted type screws. I just bought one off that particularly large auction site for $12 total because I keep running over to dad's just to use his. Anyway, that's how I would go about it...:chainsawguy:

 

[redsqwrl]

i've never seen the roller bearing starter before, pretty nifty. very positive hook up, unlike some of the fairbank morse ones i'm use to. do you grease those rollers ? my instinct sezs yes but would appreciate advice from someone who knows. some nice machine work there.
onward........

For What it is worth.
I am in the Great cold and snowy north My father told me to never Lubricate those. I did not listen.....I Struggled with it until I cleaned it up with brake cleaner. I am curious to see what others do as well.
Gas tank:
I also remember that a couple of the screws in the gas tank are different length. another trick I have used: I found it easier to take the tank off the saw put some warm mineral spirts in it and then shake it around, the tank comes off really easy.

Mike

 

[wigglesworth]

Wiggs you branchin out into antiques now?

That thing looks awesome!

Nah. This one just followed me home. Not sure what im gonna do with it now....

Sweet score jeremy. Be careful with that starter...I have broken all 3 of the ones I have. :monkey:

LOL....what did ya do? Hit them with a hammer? This thing is a freakin tank!!!

To bad it's locked up. Maybe i'll get a wild hair and find out why...

 

[leed3349]

c-7 and c-71

can someone tell me what the difference between the to are thanks lee

 

[Eccentric]

Never taken one of those particular models apart but a manual (hammer operated) impact screwdriver works wonders on stuck slotted type screws. I just bought one off that particularly large auction site for $12 total because I keep running over to dad's just to use his. Anyway, that's how I would go about it...:chainsawguy:

The larger slotted head/5/16" hex screws that hold the tank to the saw chassis do sometimes strip/round and can be gotten out with that type of impact screw driver. The screws I mentioned are the tiny suckers that hold the tank cover to the tank body. They have a tendancy to do the electrolysis-sieze thing in magnesium parts (like the tank body). When that happens, the heads can strip and/or the screw shanks can break flush with the face of the tank body...

For What it is worth.
I am in the Great cold and snowy north My father told me to never Lubricate those. I did not listen.....I Struggled with it until I cleaned it up with brake cleaner. I am curious to see what others do as well.
Gas tank:
I also remember that a couple of the screws in the gas tank are different length. another trick I have used: I found it easier to take the tank off the saw put some warm mineral spirts in it and then shake it around, the tank comes off really easy.

Mike

Yep. NO lube in that overrunning bearing starter setup. They can be tempermental. Homlelite only used them for a short while, and went back to the FM starter from this style on some of the C-Series saws until they switched to the pawl type.

 

[Eccentric]

thanks eccentric/lee. i cleaned up all the electric contacts on the points/condenser box and grounds. the points wern't even pitted. has a nice blue spark now. checked the kill switch too, works fine.
eccentric- i think your right about the tank. i'm gonna pull the front and get it over with, looks too nasty to deal with through the fill hole. the mess is mostly on the bottom and part of one side so it looks like some bad fuel. the tip of the screwdriver goes in 1/4".
put some blaster on the little slot head screws. they do look a little scarry, knowing my record with things slotted.lol.
i've never seen the roller bearing starter before, pretty nifty. very positive hook up, unlike some of the fairbank morse ones i'm use to. do you grease those rollers ? my instinct sezs yes but would appreciate advice from someone who knows. some nice machine work there.
onward........

Glad to hear you have the ignition squared away! Yep. Be careful with those little screws. I've had good luck with removing the tank (as Mike stated), setting it down cover-side-up, spritzing some PB on them, then heating 'em for a bit with the tip of a hot soldering iron for a bit to draw in the PB before carefuly turning them out with a tight-fitting screwdriver.

can someone tell me what the difference between the to are thanks lee

Not much different. Some early C71's have the Fairbanks/Morse starter, while most have the overrunning bearing type that we've discussed here instead. The C71 has an AF cover with openings on the sides (instead fof the rear opening). Decals are different....

 

[little possum]

To bad it's locked up. Maybe i'll get a wild hair and find out why...

Get to work!

 

[Mr. Bow Saw]

I got another Super 1130G. Has 42" bar 1/2 chain

 

[Eccentric]

That's another fantastic score Cliff!

Looks really clean, with lots of original paint (and 'character'). Dig the 42" RN bar. Is that a General? Has the distinctive hardened rail sections behind the roller. Chain looks like it has a lotta life left in it. I especialy like the big redwood bucking 'saw hangin' dogs. I'm coveting once again.....:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[little possum]

Wow, another Cliff? lol

That would look good on display over here

Great find

 

[leeha]

Thats another SAWEEEEEET one Cliff.
Nice shape, Nice 42 inch roller nose,
And i want them H+S DOGS, First set
iv'e seen on an 1130G or 3100.

Congrats on a great find:yourock:


Lee

 

[Mr. Bow Saw]

That's another fantastic score Cliff!

Looks really clean, with lots of original paint (and 'character'). Dig the 42" RN bar. Is that a General? Has the distinctive hardened rail sections behind the roller. Chain looks like it has a lotta life left in it. I especialy like the big redwood bucking 'saw hangin' dogs. I'm coveting once again.....:hmm3grin2orange:

Thanks,
The saw came from one guy, the dogs came from another guy.
The chain is new from another guy and the Bar was my dads I got
from him 25 years ago. I think it is a General bar.

Wow, another Cliff? lol

That would look good on display over here

Great find

Thanks LP.

 

[Wildman1024]

OH BABY that is a sweet 1130G Cliff. That Roller Nose is nice and those H&S Dogs are amazing.

 

[Mr. Bow Saw]

Thats another SAWEEEEEET one Cliff.
Nice shape, Nice 42 inch roller nose,
And i want them H+S DOGS, First set
iv'e seen on an 1130G or 3100.

Congrats on a great find:yourock:


Lee

Thanks lee.

 

[Mr. Bow Saw]

OH BABY that is a sweet 1130G Cliff. That Roller Nose is nice and those H&S Dogs are amazing.

Thanks Rick.

 

[RandyMac]

You have the full package Cliff, got a tree for it?

 

[Mr. Bow Saw]

You have the full package Cliff, got a tree for it?

Just let me know the next time your out midnight tree
felling, I will bring it by and try it out.