Homelite Chainsaws

[chubz]

I posted a couple days ago that i was getting ready to rebuild my c51 and i had a few questions for the pros. Im new to this and your help would be great.
My maon question was is the differance between all the c series saw is it the year because i have found lots of new parts on ebay for the c5

 

[Eccentric]

I posted a couple days ago that i was getting ready to rebuild my c51 and i had a few questions for the pros. Im new to this and your help would be great.
My main question was is the differance between all the c series saw is it the year because i have found lots of new parts on ebay for the c5

I'm not a pro....but I think I can field this one.


Most parts will interchange between the C5/7/9, C51/71/91, and C52/72 saws. Many will also interchange with them and the XP series saws such as the XP1020 and Super 1050.

There were some changes between series' such as the air filter cover and the starter type. Most of the time, parts can still be swapped. In some cases (such as the starters) you must swap 'systems' over. Homelite used both Wico and Phelon ignition systems in these saws, and you must use the right points and condensor for the type of ignition used on your saw.

What parts are you needing to swap? We can tell you if they'll work or not. Most will. It may not look 'correct'..........but it will still work.

 

[chubz]

the cylinder and piston are worn pretty good and i can twist the piston back and forth on the crank and it needs an air filter but i might replace the crank seals while im that far

thanks

 

[Eccentric]

the cylinder and piston are worn pretty good and i can twist the piston back and forth on the crank and it needs an air filter but i might replace the crank seals while im that far

thanks

Internal parts are the same between the C5, C51, and C52. The air filter element is the same for all of the C-series saws. The C5/7/9 cover doesn't have the 'side holes' of the later saws, but the covers are interchangable. Crank seals and bearings are the same for all of the C-series saws.

Sounds like you need a new piston, cylinder, wrist pin bearing, crank seals, and gaskets at the least. When you twist the piston back and forth, is the rod twisting too? If so, then you'll need a set of roller bearings for the rod. If it's that worn out, then you're going pretty deep in to parts costs.

 

[chubz]

ya the rod twist two but its my favorite saw so i thimk im gonna keep it around thanks for the info

 

[Eccentric]

ya the rod twist two but its my favorite saw so i thimk im gonna keep it around thanks for the info

Not trying to discourage you. Just don't want to see you dump a bunch of money and get frustrated. May want to hunt for a parts saw. A good used P/C and some new bearings, seals, rings, and gaskets would get you back in the hunt.

 

[chubz]

thanks ive been looking at a couple p/s to I didnt even know you could still get parts until i found this forum and someone on here said to try ebay i thought i was the only one with an old saw for a while

 

[Mr. Bow Saw]

Internal parts are the same between the C5, C51, and C52. The air filter element is the same for all of the C-series saws. The C5/7/9 cover doesn't have the 'side holes' of the later saws, but the covers are interchangable. Crank seals and bearings are the same for all of the C-series saws.

Sounds like you need a new piston, cylinder, wrist pin bearing, crank seals, and gaskets at the least. When you twist the piston back and forth, is the rod twisting too? If so, then you'll need a set of roller bearings for the rod. If it's that worn out, then you're going pretty deep in to parts costs.

I had a C-5 with a bad P&C. I fond a C-51 parts saw with
good P&C and stuck it in the C-5. Worked out good.

 

[thomas1]

Can somebody ID this Homie for me? I didn't see any tags but is there somewhere else I should be looking a model/serial number? There is a number (serial?) engraved/punched in the bottom of the case.

Thanks

 

[homelitejim]

Can somebody ID this Homie for me? I didn't see any tags but is there somewhere else I should be looking a model/serial number? There is a number (serial?) engraved/punched in the bottom of the case.

Thanks

There are a bunch of different saws that look like the one in the pic. I would say a c-7 series but the black filter cover is in line with the 1050 or bigger but it does not have the full wrap handle like the majority of the 100cc saws. your pics are really small, if you could get them to post bigger it will be easier to identify. A good way to tell is to take off the muffler and measure the top of the piston, I use a little straw from a spray can run it across the top of the piston to the cylinder wall and run the piston up until it puts a crink in the straw, pull out and measure in mm.

 

[thomas1]

your pics are really small, if you could get them to post bigger it will be easier to identify.

Jim, if you click the pic it will take you to a fullsize image.

 

[homelitejim]

Jim, if you click the pic it will take you to a fullsize image.

Sorry being lazy, thank you

 

[sawbones]

Jim, if you click the pic it will take you to a fullsize image.

better not let Cliff see that bowbar in your album:msp_tongue:

 

[thomas1]

better not let Cliff see that bowbar in your album:msp_tongue:

He's the one who ID'd it. Surprise.

 

[buzz sawyer]

Can somebody ID this Homie for me? I didn't see any tags but is there somewhere else I should be looking a model/serial number? There is a number (serial?) engraved/punched in the bottom of the case.

Thanks

Definitely not a 1050 - air filter, starter, and clutch covers are wrong. Check the jug diameter.

 

[thomas1]

Definitely not a 1050 - air filter, starter, and clutch covers are wrong. Check the jug diameter.

I won't have a chance to pull the muffler for a couple of days. If it helps I can make out what I believe says "convertible drive" on the starter and the top of the case.

 

[Eccentric]

There are a bunch of different saws that look like the one in the pic. I would say a c-7 series but the black filter cover is in line with the 1050 or bigger but it does not have the full wrap handle like the majority of the 100cc saws. your pics are really small, if you could get them to post bigger it will be easier to identify. A good way to tell is to take off the muffler and measure the top of the piston, I use a little straw from a spray can run it across the top of the piston to the cylinder wall and run the piston up until it puts a crink in the straw, pull out and measure in mm.

I won't have a chance to pull the muffler for a couple of days. If it helps I can make out what I believe says "convertible drive" on the starter and the top of the case.

Should be a C7.....but could be a frankensaw built from various C-Series parts. The C7/71/72 and the C9/91 were the ones with the red chassis. C9 and C91 usualy have green starter covers, AF covers, and clutch covers. Again, somebody could have mix-n-matched things. "Convertable Drive" was a decal on all of the C-Series saws. "Convertible" is where the "C" in the C-Series model designations comes from. Guys lately have been calling their C-Series saws "C-51 Convertible" (for example), when "convertible" is redundant in the name.

The "Convertible" thing was a marketing strategy. These saws could become a gear drive saw by having a special planetary gearbox installed in place of the clutch cover. There was also an auto-oiler assembly that could be installed in place of the clutch cover on the C-Series and early XP-Series saws. Those attachments are rare, coveted, and somewhat expensive when found for sale now...

BTW-Measuring the bore will get you 1/2 of the way towards an identification. C5/51/52 and C7/71/72 saws have the same bore. The C7/71/72 have a longer stroke. The C9/91 saws have the same stroke as the C7/71/72 saws, with a larger bore. Most (but not all) C9/91 saws have a different intake manifold than the other C-Series saws. This manifold has a 'pyramid' style 4-reed setup, where the regular C-Series saws have one flat reed. The last of the C91's (after a certain serial # that I can provide if anybody cares) have the single 'flat' reed intake manifold as used on the other saws. My guess is that this was a way to 'widen the gap' between the C91 and the newly introduced XP1000 saws.

 

[Duke Thieroff]

Can you guys offer any help identifying this old beast I picked up today?

SDC carb, I know this things a Frankensaw also. Runs good. The oiler linkage goes thru the airbox and pusheds a lever on the right hand side. No decomp, XL700 recoil cover.



Chris

 

[Eccentric]

Can you guys offer any help identifying this old beast I picked up today?

SDC carb, I know this things a Frankensaw also. Runs good. The oiler linkage goes thru the airbox and pusheds a lever on the right hand side. No decomp, XL700 recoil cover.

Chris

Nice score Chris. Hard to say for certain. It's an XL700/800/900-series FrankenHomie for sure! Measure the bore. That will at least tell you if it's 4.71 or 5.02ci. Not that it matters as long as it's a runner. Trade you a PM10-10 for it!

 

[Duke Thieroff]

Nice score Chris. Hard to say for certain. It's an XL700/800/900-series FrankenHomie for sure! Measure the bore. That will at least tell you if it's 4.71 or 5.02ci. Not that it matters as long as it's a runner. Trade you a PM10-10 for it!

Aaron, you are right.

Determining the the bore doesn't do much in the way of actually determining what specifically the saw is/was mated from. From what research I have done the Homelites of these series must've been marketed the same way Macs were of similar time frames.


I traded my beautiful little SEZ for both of these saws, but old iron is a wonderful thing to have, and to have in quantity.

Chris