How do I determine load direction?

[lfnh]

internet stuff and your hurricane windthrowns isn'tthe place to get basic stuff down.
Find someone with solid experience to show you safe way to saw this stuff up or just leave it be if it's not a danger.

 

[mdavlee]

Blow down is a lot of tension everywhere. Like the others said clear all the little stuff from around the bigger ones. That little stuff is big enough to kill you when it springs loose at 200 mph. It's just like being whipped with a switch when you were a kid except with a ton or two of force to hit you.

 

[slowp]

I thought load direction was determined by where the mill is?:wink2:

Our timber fallers are also good at cutting blowdown.

 

[rwoods]

I thought load direction was determined by where the mill is?:wink2:

Our timber fallers are also good at cutting blowdown.

You mean they don't just leave that timber for the termites? :msp_wink: Ron

 

[slowp]

This guy is mostly a road builder, but sometimes falls and skids and does whatever. I followed behind on that cold day and whacked up what he cut up so it could get thrown out of the way. We did what seemed to be a really long stretch. The cat was at the other end, of course, and when he hoofed it up to get it, it refused to start..of course.

This video was before I had a camera that did talkies.
[video=youtube_share;3Beocx0KiOw]http://youtu.be/3Beocx0KiOw[/video]

This happens in the winter. We figure it was a microburst because it happened in a relatively small area. Because it was on Forest Service, it was left for firewood cutters and termites. We just had to get the road opened up.

 

[slowp]

More jiggly video. Long bars are a very good thing to have when cutting blowdown. Like a 40 foot bar would be nice sometimes.

[video=youtube_share;tJZmEV3vXBw]http://youtu.be/tJZmEV3vXBw[/video]

 

[Gologit]

I thought load direction was determined by where the mill is?:wink2:

Our timber fallers are also good at cutting blowdown.

I like your little emoticon for the fallers. Very appropriate. Just a tiny bit sarcastic, but accurate.


We need one for the foresters, too. I like :msp_mad:. Or maybe How about :rant:

Can anybody think of any others?


Back on topic...blowdown bites.

 

[rwoods]

Saddle Mander, if you watch Slowp's clips you should notice in addition to the cutter standing clear at least three other things: The cutter is constantly assessing and re-assessing both the big picture and the immediate task; he is purposeful; and he is methodical. Ron

 

[woodchuck357]

I thought about telling him to start with the little stuff, then I remembered seeing more people hurt from limbs under tension than trunks, so figured the best advice on how to do this one is none.

By the way there are these things called vehicles that transport people and tools all over the country to work or play, just because someone choses to live on the west coast doesn't mean they are idiots that have never worked any other place.

 

[slowp]

Saddle Mander, if you watch Slowp's clips you should notice in addition to the cutter standing clear at least three other things: The cutter is constantly assessing and re-assessing both the big picture and the immediate task; he is purposeful; and he is methodical. Ron

He'd also just got out of a hospital and had one collapsed lung and some healing up ribs from a non-work related crash. Owie.

 

[slowp]

[video=youtube;jdg9MoIxxbU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdg9MoIxxbU&feature=share&list=UU9mFXlXjEJvJoCImQvFXVSg[/video]

 

[HuskStihl]

I am pretty much an expert at trying things I have no business doing and luckily surviving. If you're bound and determined, be like me and assume you're going to get it wrong. Go really slowly, use a long bar to keep your vital organs as far from the tension as possible. Pound in a wedge as soon as you have room if you think if your bar might get pinched, go really slowly. Think every step through, don't climb on the stuff if you don't have to, wear a helmet, and go really slowly.

Woodchuck, I like you, and have received very helpful advice from you in the past, but why start in with the fallers on the logging forum? I'm sure people who do storm cleanup for a living are very good at blowdown, and I'd bet people who log for a living would be pretty good at dealing with blowdown as well. We should all start by agreeing that that huskstihl guy is probably not good at handling blowdown. I can tell you from experience, he doesn't listen, or work well with others

 

[slowp]

[video=youtube;0mGNdr4cE0A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mGNdr4cE0A&feature=share&list=UU9mFXlXjEJvJoCImQvFXVSg[/video]

 

[RVALUE]

A couple days ago, I took down about 30 trees, and created a blow down effect. If a scrounger decides to tackle the mess, it might be bad.




My job was to put them on the ground, and they did their own thing. He has a tractor to dissect the mess.


Tarry on.

 

[madhatte]

We need one for the foresters, too. I like :msp_mad:. Or maybe How about :rant:

Can anybody think of any others?

Aw, now that's just not fair. You know very well Loggers wouldn't get anything done without the supreme wisdom of Foresters to tell them where and when to cut. That's why God invented flagging tape and spray paint.

 

[slowp]

Aw, now that's just not fair. You know very well Loggers wouldn't get anything done without the supreme wisdom of Foresters to tell them where and when to cut. That's why God invented flagging tape and spray paint.

and :coffee:

 

[madhatte]

and :coffee:

Awright, yeah, can't argue with that. I am seldom seen before noon without a cup of coffee in my hand. A car cup, empty, clipped to my vest with a carabiner, finishes the day.

 

[Gologit]

Dammit, there's no DONETTOS emoticon.

 

[Saddle Mander]

I'm really appreciating the wisdom you guys are offering.

I'm kinda addicted to this site and spend WAY too much time here, but there's always just "a little bit more" that I want to check out before I click off. (And not just the WTF pictures!)

I've learned a LOT from this site. One of the biggest things I've learned is that there is a LOT that I don't know. And, more importantly, I've learned that much of what I don't know can kill me.

So when I have a morning like this morning where I realize that there's a lot going on that I don't have enough experience to see, I figure I should run it past guys who actually know what they're doing.

 

[HuskStihl]

I'm really appreciating the wisdom you guys are offering.

I'm kinda addicted to this site and spend WAY too much time here, but there's always just "a little bit more" that I want to check out before I click off. (And not just the WTF pictures!)

I've learned a LOT from this site. One of the biggest things I've learned is that there is a LOT that I don't know. And, more importantly, I've learned that much of what I don't know can kill me.

So when I have a morning like this morning where I realize that there's a lot going on that I don't have enough experience to see, I figure I should run it past guys who actually know what they're doing.

I used to do the same thing, but they'd always say "that's too dangerous, you don't have enough trigger time." I'd do it anyway, #### it up, and hope someday to prove the boys wrong. Before I kill myself. Stay safe