How does the logging industry effect you.

[stihl sawing]

Now i know what you loggers are going to say, but there are a lot of industries that rely on logging. For an example. I teach printing in a local career center and we do all the printing for the school district. we run a few million sheets of paper through printing presses and copiers a year. So the logging and paper industries are vital for my jobs survival. So please guys keep on cutting cause i don't want to draw unemployment right now. Also just about everything you see or use has something to do with trees. I know that toilet paper is a lot better than leaves. Just curious how some of the fields of work rely on the loggers to keep them afloat.

 

[oregoncutter]

Where I live in a small rural commuity, all the local buisnesses rely on moneys coming from the timber industry there are taxes that go to benefit buisinesses, and nonprofits as well as local goverment programs that are derived directly from timber revenues. That doesen't include the contribution to the community by local people shopping at stores, buying fuel, and recieving other services paid for by their salaries. Also most of the timber companies, and mills donate alot of money and time to local non profit organizations, and provide scholarships for local kids to attend college even during rough times they continue to give back to the community. I had a guy ask me once how I could live with my self raping the forest and killing people by killing earth, I asked him I said do you have money in You're wallet, he said yes, I said do You live in a house He said yes, I said do you wipe you're ass he said yes. I asked him "where do all those things come from he said trees. I told him when he lives in plastic house, quits using cash and recieving mail, and wipes his ass with roll of steel I might be able to answer his question he turned away and walked off.

 

[stihl sawing]

Where I live in a small rural commuity, all the local buisnesses rely on moneys coming from the timber industry there are taxes that go to benefit buisinesses, and nonprofits as well as local goverment programs that are derived directly from timber revenues. That doesen't include the contribution to the community by local people shopping at stores, buying fuel, and recieving other services paid for by their salaries. Also most of the timber companies, and mills donate alot of money and time to local non profit organizations, and provide scholarships for local kids to attend college even during rough times they continue to give back to the community. I had a guy ask me once how I could live with my self raping the forest and killing people by killing earth, I asked him I said do you have money in You're wallet, he said yes, I said do You live in a house He said yes, I said do you wipe you're ass he said yes. I asked him "where do all those things come from he said trees. I told him when he lives in plastic house, quits using cash and recieving mail, and wipes his ass with roll of steel I might be able to answer his question he turned away and walked off.

That was classic.

 

[frenchy85]

I'm a carpenter, so I'm pretty much screwed without the logging industry.

 

[slowp]

I'm a bureaucrat. So, logging has honed my debating skills--yesterday, got into a "discussion" that raised the eyes of the young chaser. We debaters were civil, no bad words, just a little bit loud and waving arms. I didn't back down.

Our community is still not over the "timber wars" and the school enrollment is ever shrinking (yet some teachers still teach that logging is bad for the environment), Morton still has 2 mills and a chipping (fiber) place. We have one mill. There are very few local loggers left.

Let me see, personal affectations are: ankles that lock up on steep ground and make me say owie, knees that creak, a calf muscle that won't tolerate running, numb hand from squeezing a paint gun, and a cranky disposition at times (impatience).

But there's lots of fun times to recall and a few more to come. Like just this morning, The Curse Of The Hooktenders came back to life. On my second trip up the hill, the rigging crew was on their way back down for another load of rigging to pack up. The hooktender looked relieved and said he was glad to see I was alive. I looked puzzled. He sheepishly said he'd cut a tree and then cut a block of wood off and kicked it down the hill (the hill is 80 to 90%) and then one of his guys reminde him that I might be below. The chunk did not stop. I think I was across the unit, looking for tail trees so didn't know about this. Such events make for amusing stories.

 

[redprospector]

The local bar used to have a sign that read;

"Loggers, Please Take Off Your Calks Before Entering".

They don't have to have that sign any more.


Andy

 

[frenchy85]

Now i know what you loggers are going to say, but there are a lot of industries that rely on logging. For an example. I teach printing in a local career center and we do all the printing for the school district. we run a few million sheets of paper through printing presses and copiers a year. So the logging and paper industries are vital for my jobs survival. So please guys keep on cutting cause i don't want to draw unemployment right now. Also just about everything you see or use has something to do with trees. I know that toilet paper is a lot better than leaves. Just curious how some of the fields of work rely on the loggers to keep them afloat.

Stihl sawing I didn't really read your post earlier when I posted, but my dad is a printer also. So logging does affect him. Sadly, his business is way with the economy the way it is and the type of printing that he does.

 

[jimbo@stn23]

The local bar used to have a sign that read;

"Loggers, Please Take Off Your Calks Before Entering".

They don't have to have that sign any more.


Andy

There is a similar sign somewhere in Canal Flats, B.C., but I can't recall the business.

A great friend pulls Super B for Kootenay Wood Transport, I've pulled very little for 'em when I drove abit. Spent some time getting loads in Montana, and the PNW with Dave, lotta work to be had when the industry is going well.

 

[bullbuck]

The local bar used to have a sign that read;

"Loggers, Please Take Off Your Calks Before Entering".

They don't have to have that sign any more.


Andy

...from the way i hear it andy,they had to replace that picture window up front more than once,courtesy of will and the boys...lol

 

[gink595]

The timber market doesn't really effect me directly because I get paychecks from a steel producer... BUT if people aren't building with wood, people aren't building with steel which effects me. So I hope the timber market picks up so the steel market can too

 

[deeker]

I'm a bureaucrat. So, logging has honed my debating skills--yesterday, got into a "discussion" that raised the eyes of the young chaser. We debaters were civil, no bad words, just a little bit loud and waving arms. I didn't back down.

Our community is still not over the "timber wars" and the school enrollment is ever shrinking (yet some teachers still teach that logging is bad for the environment), Morton still has 2 mills and a chipping (fiber) place. We have one mill. There are very few local loggers left.

Let me see, personal affectations are: ankles that lock up on steep ground and make me say owie, knees that creak, a calf muscle that won't tolerate running, numb hand from squeezing a paint gun, and a cranky disposition at times (impatience).

But there's lots of fun times to recall and a few more to come. Like just this morning, The Curse Of The Hooktenders came back to life. On my second trip up the hill, the rigging crew was on their way back down for another load of rigging to pack up. The hooktender looked relieved and said he was glad to see I was alive. I looked puzzled. He sheepishly said he'd cut a tree and then cut a block of wood off and kicked it down the hill (the hill is 80 to 90%) and then one of his guys reminde him that I might be below. The chunk did not stop. I think I was across the unit, looking for tail trees so didn't know about this. Such events make for amusing stories.

My dear, somehow I believe you were gifted with the debate talent before you became a bureaucrat. The latter you are not, your more human....

Keep up the great posts, stories....always like reading them.

 

[redprospector]

...from the way i hear it andy,they had to replace that picture window up front more than once,courtesy of will and the boys...lol

Yeah, things are all nicey nice now. It was a different world back then.

Andy

 

[fredmc]

Now i know what you loggers are going to say, but there are a lot of industries that rely on logging. For an example. I teach printing in a local career center and we do all the printing for the school district. we run a few million sheets of paper through printing presses and copiers a year. So the logging and paper industries are vital for my jobs survival. So please guys keep on cutting cause i don't want to draw unemployment right now. Also just about everything you see or use has something to do with trees. I know that toilet paper is a lot better than leaves. Just curious how some of the fields of work rely on the loggers to keep them afloat.

I got a degree in graphic design, and I am currently a job printer. I started in art and have ran many many presses. Up to 13 color flexo and everything in between bindery and pre-press.

btw it was a teacher in high school that got me interested in viscom.
I like you more each day.

 

[stihl sawing]

I got a degree in graphic design, and I am currently a job printer. I started in art and have ran many many presses. Up to 13 color flexo and everything in between bindery and pre-press.

btw it was a teacher in high school that got me interested in viscom.
I like you more each day.

I seen you're profile a while back. Knew you was a printer. There are several printers on this site, A couple hasn't been on in a while. Sounds like you've run the big machines. Those big webs go through a lot of paper in a day.

 

[fredmc]

I seen you're profile a while back. Knew you was a printer. There are several printers on this site, A couple hasn't been on in a while. Sounds like you've run the big machines. Those big webs go through a lot of paper in a day.

Narrow web flexo 13" wide Mark Andy press w/UV and the works. Started printing doing 4/c on a ryobi 3302 2/c

 

[slowp]

The local bar used to have a sign that read;

"Loggers, Please Take Off Your Calks Before Entering".

They don't have to have that sign any more.


Andy

Yours was more polite. Our bars had signs saying, No Caulks, Guns or Knives allowed. But not anymore.

 

[deeker]

My small mill is pretty slow right now. I have only a couple of orders for timbers/beams right now. Slow.....and I mean slow...

The previous three summers were busy, I was back orderd by four to five weeks.

Even the orders of rough cut boards is down.

Kevin

 

[stihl sawing]

I'm a logger and sawmill owner so the wood business is my livlihood.

I don't want to burst your bubble Oregon Cutter, but money is made from cotton, not wood pulp.

Aw, Heck. I didn't know that. Learned something new again today.

 

[oregoncutter]

Interesting.

I'm a logger and sawmill owner so the wood business is my livlihood.

I don't want to burst your bubble Oregon Cutter, but money is made from cotton, not wood pulp.

So there is no wood products whatsoever that go into making U.S legal tender, we still use wood pulp for envelopes, and other paper products do we not? I should know better I had an old friend that managed the production end ofa large printing company.
Thanks for the enlightenment.

 

[no longer collecting]

I live in Canada , province of Quebec and this recession made all the mills to a complete shutdown because they are american owned and housing development are almost to a stop......causing massive unemployment.
We don't hear chainsaws and machinery anymore..... i haven't seen a truck for a year.

On top of this in my area there is a desease on the elm and ash trees and the federal government has passed a law that is banning any transportation of wood including house firewood. If you get caught it is a $5,000.00 fine.

I made it just in time this spring an have about 20 cords in reserve in the backyard.

Whatever that is cut up north is majority bought in lenght by the chinese...transported by boat....treated in their modern high tech industries and shipped back to us as a finished product. (furniture, paper...wood product).

Alain,