How I baby my 2 stoke motors.... 30-1 instead of 50-1

[bwalker]

What I said had nothing to do with feelings. It has to do with engineering and fluid flow. While I agree that more oil may be needed at some conditions than others, my main point stands: there is a point where no further improvement in results is possible. That is when the rings are fully filled with oil and the oil film on all wearing parts is unbroken. If you think things will still improve beyond that point, try running 50% oil and see how well your saw runs. There is such a thing as too much.

And I am telling you you are full of it.

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

1/2 of you would get your ass kicked by a 3rd grater in Inglesh class.

 

[bwalker]

Using too much oil will eventually cause rings to stick, Resulting in lost compression. It would definitely help the bearings though.

No it wont...

 

[bwalker]

1/2 of you would get your ass kicked by a 3rd grater in Inglesh class.

No kidding...but this isn't English class and those people that wasted money on English degrees are making peanuts..

 

[Old-Feller]

No it wont...

Yes it will, Too much oil causes too much smoke/carbon, Too much carbon forms deposits in the ring grooves and causes them to stick, But what do I know? I was just a Mechanic for 30 years.

 

[camel2019]

My take on any oil thread is run any good quality oil you want at what ratio you want end of story.

 

[Old-Feller]

Run a good Synthetic like VP or Red armor and you won't have problems.

 

[bwalker]

Yes it will, Too much oil causes too much smoke/carbon, Too much carbon forms deposits in the ring grooves and causes them to stick, But what do I know? I was just a Mechanic for 30 years.

No it wont..won't... poor tuning and a host of other stuff does that.

 

[jellyroll]

16:1 is working good for me it keeps the muffler from getting rusty.

 

[Old-Feller]

No it wont..won't... poor tuning and a host of other stuff does that.

I'm sure you are an expert? You must be a pretty miserable guy, You are lucky to have internet forums or you would be arguing with a wall.

 

[bwalker]

I'm sure you are an expert? You must be a pretty miserable guy, You are lucky to have internet forums or you would be arguing with a wall.

I'm just stating the obvious. You can throw around being a mechanic. However thats not impressive. Most mechanics are clueless on this subject and instead resort to old wives tales they here in the shop.
I'm happy as can be, buddy.. I just detest stupidity on these forums..

 

[Andyshine77]

Yes it will, Too much oil causes too much smoke/carbon, Too much carbon forms deposits in the ring grooves and causes them to stick, But what do I know? I was just a Mechanic for 30 years.

More oil will not cause more deposits in the ring grooves, in fact the opposite.

 

[rogue60]

In a vehicle if you over fill the engine with oil the excess oil drains down into the diff via the tail shaft so it doesn't matter. Same goes for chainsaws if you put to much oil in the mix the excess drains into the bar oil tank, but be careful my brother hydrolocked the oil pump doing this as the bar oil tank was over filled silly bugger.

 

[Old-Feller]

I'm just stating the obvious. You can throw around being a mechanic. However thats not impressive. Most mechanics are clueless on this subject and instead resort to old wives tales they here in the shop.
I'm happy as can be, buddy.. I just detest stupidity on these forums..

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=why+do+rings+in+an+engine+stick

More oil will not cause more deposits in the ring grooves, in fact the opposite.

From Google,

What causes rings to get stuck in piston?

https://www.google.com/search?q=oil...IAQ24AQPAAQHaAQYIARABGAk&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Stuck piston rings are caused by carbon deposits in the ring grooves. Hard carbon, a result of poor fuel combustion, virtually cements the rings into the grooves. In the past, the only way to free up stuck piston rings so they seal properly again, was to overhaul the engine.Apr 19, 2021


This is from Valvoline on google.

What happens if the mixing ratios in a 2 stroke engine are incorrect?​

If you put too much oil, it can generate additional carbon build-up, making it difficult to start the engine, blow excessive smoke which is particularly bad for the environment and may (with time) cause the engine to stop operating correctly. But, if you add too little oil, it will (with time) not lubricate the moving internal engine parts or offer the needed engine protection, which will cause wear, friction and overheat, and may damage the engine permanently.

https://www.valvoline.com/en-au/importance-of-2-stroke-product-application/
Now you 2 GENIUSES can carry on!

And it's "HEAR" not "HERE"

 

[OM617YOTA]

Oh that's good. You're arguing with a master baker because you read the back of the Betty Crocker box. Where's my popcorn.

 

[Old-Feller]

You like scraping CARBON DEPOSITS out of your exhaust port? Keep dumping too much 2 stroke oil in the gas, And always use cheap DINO oil instead of synthetic. LMAO at you GENIUSES!

 

[camel2019]

If you tune your equipment theirs not extra smoke and guess what it burns just like it would at whatever the factory recommended. but adding a bit more oil to your mix will protect your bearings. It’s obvious that some of you are willing to believe whatever is said to you bc that’s what the factory wants and yes they want to sell you new equipment in a couple years. that’s one of the reasons 50-1 is a recommended mix it’s also one of the reasons Stihl is Stihl recommending their crappy oil.

 

[MacAttack]

This thread is getting good now, lol.

FWIW, my vintage 1961 saw spent about a decade running on straight 40:1 motor oil at 16:1 and the rings look great and not horrible carbon in the exhaust ports.

 

[huskihl]

All we need now is proof from a Wikipedia quote

 

[bwalker]

More oil will not cause more deposits in the ring grooves, in fact the opposite.

Most guys don't understand that much of the deposits in a two cycle come from the gasoline and not the oil.
Running more oil has a solvent effect and it contains detergents that prevent buildup.