I'm not talking about people who own tree services. I'm talking about people who own major chains of grocery stores, regional breweries, insurance agencies, etc. They aren't impressed with guys like us (except that we made it on our own...but they aren't impressed with our income) but if you get into that circle of friends...it's because you know how to conduct yourself and not over-play your hand. They may be impressed with our work ethic and ingenuity but that doesn't get you in there. You get there because you know they're people like you and they like you because of how you conduct yourself. And I will say...there is nothing special about those people. It's just like hanging out with other friends. They just don't want to make a big deal about money. Most of them just want the same things we all want. We just want good friends and good memories. They value being looked at and treated in a normal way.