how would i go about felling a 100 foot eucalyptus with a 41cc saw with a 16 bar?

[ROOTSXROCKS]

the tree measured 60 inches and 7/10ths diameter. the tree needs to be felled not cut from the top down in sections. there is a huge open space for it to fall and no houses for it to reach.

damned if that 7/10th of an inch is just to far over the limit:greenchainsaw:



seriously Dude you need a minimum of a 32" saw and the balls and experience to run it.

please set up a video camera and share with us if you decide to do this.

Oh you might want to leave a note on the camera with instructions and the URL to this post.

 

[NCTREE]

I know that certain trees (ones that are brittle to begin with) once dead can start cracking and splitting inside. If you go to back cut it, it could barber chair on you and thats no good at all. I've seen guys strap the trunks before cutting them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6hEfav9ZwI

 

[Taxmantoo]

It's been dead for a long time???? RED FLAG! Don't be a hero, someones liable to get killed.

+1.

Let us assume a little bitty 200lb branch breaks off near the top.
That's 20,000 ft-lb of energy. If it lands on your head, they will be using tattoos/scars on your legs to try to identify the corpse.

In addition, the trunk is huge and practically petrified. When it starts to fall, you won't have a couple of minutes to finish neatening up the hinge, you just have to start running and hope you ran in the right direction. But the best way to kill you will be to break off a brittle branch and drop it on you from on high.

Watch the video below, it's on giving yourself some chance of getting out of the way of falling limbs:

http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/safety/council/newsletters/may06/may06.html

 

[Taxmantoo]

You know, if it can safely fall in any direction and you can get some dynamite and a blasting permit, there's no need to be within 300' of it when it comes down. Just thinking outside the box here.

 

[NCTREE]

Don't get me wrong I don't recomend you doing any of this. I just wanted to share that awesome video. I wonder if these guy are on AS??? I agree with everyone else, hire a pro.

 

[matt9923]

16" bar, you could cut in everywhere on that three and it might not fall, then what will you do?

 

[Taxmantoo]

16" bar, you could cut in everywhere on that three and it might not fall, then what will you do?

Notch it big enough to get the saw inside the tree, but that's totally insane on a dead or unhealthy tree.

 

[matt9923]

Notch it big enough to get the saw inside the tree, but that's totally insane on a dead or unhealthy tree.

It can be done but, if that's the biggest saw he has he doesn't have enough experience to go near that tree.

 

[voxac30dude]

WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!!!! i was arong. i said the wrong measurement. if you were to take and ruler a measure the tree's stump strait across it would measure 30 inches. the measurement i gave you was wrong that was just the tape measure going around the circle of the tree not across. so heres where im going with this. so 16 + 16 = 32 so there for im going to make my face cuts half on one side half on the other. probably gonna bore cut through the middle and take most of the heart wood out and then finish the cut by taking the strap off and allowing the hinge to safely bring the tree down.

now correct me if im wrong but if you have a 30inches strait across you wanna leave yourself a good 2 - 2 1/2 inch hinge on the tree right?

 

[ROOTSXROCKS]

WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!!!! i was arong. i said the wrong measurement. if you were to take and ruler a measure the tree's stump strait across it would measure 30 inches. the measurement i gave you was wrong that was just the tape measure going around the circle of the tree not across. so heres where im going with this. so 16 + 16 = 32 so there for im going to make my face cuts half on one side half on the other. probably gonna bore cut through the middle and take most of the heart wood out and then finish the cut by taking the strap off and allowing the hinge to safely bring the tree down.

now correct me if im wrong but if you have a 30inches strait across you wanna leave yourself a good 2 - 2 1/2 inch hinge on the tree right?

30" *3.14 is 94" are you sure it's a 16" or could it be a 12"
opcorn: were waiting to see the video

 

[jburlingham]

Here's my 2 cents for what it's worth.....

for a 60" tree your going to need a 32" bar in my opinion.

However like you have been told dead trees are deadly. (keep reading)

I by no means am a pro, I have simply been a firewood cutter for the last 18 years of my life, in which we cut mostly dead standing trees, and tons of them.

along with heavy limbs that can and do drop from dead trees, the worst part IMHO is that dead trees are very unpredictable. They may just go well before you're ready due to hollow or rotted sections, etc.

Once you have cut for a while and get a handle on the dead trees issues you start to look for some tell tale signs but you cant see everything.

If you do attempt this yourself and I'm not suggesting it, I would be very careful and expect the worst.

Sorry missed the update that it's a 30" I replied based on a 60"
Still unpredictable and dangerous, but changes the saw a lot could go 60cc's or so with an 18

 

[matt9923]

Here's my 2 cents for what it's worth.....

for a 60" tree your going to need a 32" bar in my opinion.

However like you have been told dead trees are deadly. (keep reading)

I by no means am a pro, I have simply been a firewood cutter for the last 18 years of my life, in which we cut mostly dead standing trees, and tons of them.

along with heavy limbs that can and do drop from dead trees, the worst part IMHO is that dead trees are very unpredictable. They may just go well before you're ready due to hollow or rotted sections, etc.

Once you have cut for a while and get a handle on the dead trees issues you start to look for some tell tale signs but you cant see everything.

If you do attempt this yourself and I'm not suggesting it, I would be very careful and expect the worst.

Sorry missed the update that it's a 30" I replied based on a 60"
Still unpredictable and dangerous, but changes the saw a lot could go 60cc's or so with an 18

I wouldn't do it if i expected to die

 

[jburlingham]

I wouldn't do it if i expected to die

Kind of where I was driving to

 

[TreePointer]

More math...

Wait a minute. If the circumference is 60.7", then the diameter would only be 19.3".

circumference = 2 * Pi * r
diameter = circumference / Pi

Setting aside all other concerns about safety, experience, and the condition of the tree, it's not unreasonable for 16" bar to be used to drop a 20" diameter tree. Without knowing more details, I'd still recommend a pro.

 

[Wishie22]

You have a husky 435 (41cc) with a 16" bar chisel chain. I would not be boring out the center of the tree, the tree is dead and may have rotten areas in the trunk.

You should check on the price of a lager Husky saw (if that is your preference), for future use as well. 455 Rancher (55cc 20"bar) serves allot of homeowner/firewood cutters/landowners quite will for a inexpensive saw (you get what you pay for in a non-pro though). May fit your use, cost is around $400 here.

How many trees have you fell? Felling a tree is one of the most dangerous parts of tree cutting for several reasons. Careful of what they call widow-makers - branch/parts of the tree falling from above.

 

[treesquirrel]

the tree measured 60 inches and 7/10ths diameter.

Where the hell did you find a tape measure divided into 10ths?

 

[logging22]

Dont do it bro. Way too dangerous. My .02

 

[BlackenedTimber]

Not trying to be an A-hole, but even asking this question points to the fact that you may not be able to handle this situation.

IMO, a 16" bar was not created for felling. I run a 16" on my 200T, and I don't fell trees with the 200. If you need to fell a tree, you need a bigger saw, period. If you want to limb out the tree after its' down, transition to the 16".

And again, IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE FOR EXPERIENCE.

T

 

[outofmytree]

Vox if you havent already got the message then please follow this link.


http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=115879


I believe this tree is too much for you and should be felled by a professional. I don't want to read about you on the accidents/fatalities forum.

 

[matt9923]

Vox if you havent already got the message then please follow this link.


http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=115879


I believe this tree is too much for you and should be felled by a professional. I don't want to read about you on the accidents/fatalities forum.

I cut trees everyday and those stories even get me thinking how easily I could die.
Take every precaution possible and pay attention.