Huge cankers and trunk strength ?

[treeseer]

I took these pics today of the burls on the torrey pine I'm cabling.

Galls and burls are totally different. I believe galls are hollow and caused by an insect. Burls are solid and mysteriously interesting.

:agree2:

 

[(WLL)]

Whaddya mean--some are beautiful, like Jonathan Livingston Seagull for instance.

Now Steven Seagull, that dude IS ugleee.

whatever treeseer. imo galls are not burls. its hard to get any use other than fire wood from a gull. a burl is clean without buggs and fungi.

 

[M.D. Vaden]

Mario everything you've shown are burls. The difference is clear, and clearly stated here. Anyone who teaches or even talks about tree care should know the difference:

http://www.isa-arbor.com/Dictionary/DictionarySearch.aspx?ID=1

In which case these would be tiny galls - bladder mite galls:

Not bladder mite "burls" - right Treeseer

 

[treeseer]

:agree2: with both you and WLL.

 

[(WLL)]

:agree2: with both you and WLL.

it feels good ta hear that from an expert such as Mr. treeseer i have lots of respect for u and your work

 

[jomoco]

it feels good ta hear that from an expert such as Mr. treeseer i have lots of respect for u and your work

Surely even Treeseer is not presumptuous enough to think he actually sees the tree's for what they really are?

I'm an egotistical maniac, but I still admit that I see the tree's through a glass darkly.

jomoco

 

[treesandsurf]

I remember asking a prof. about the cause of burl formation on trees. He described it as undifferentiated callus tissue that 'enveloped' itself. He wasn't too sure himself as to what the cause of burl formation was... if I remember correctly. I'll send him an e-mail about it, been trying to get him to chime in on the wall 4 debate over at another tree forum but to no avail.

Maybe treeseer has been doing late night zazen and really does :Eye: the trees for what they are.

jp

 

[treeseer]

I still admit that I see the tree's through a glass darkly.

:agree2: Me too; note that the sig line does not say "I see", but just "see". Kind of a request/plea, not a claim of perfect vision; my glass is as dark as yours I'm sure.

i chose the name because of the rhyme and being easily able to type it with two fingers and it's an ideal to strive for. Zazen yeah clearing the mind helps to lighten the glass, but Mr. Tree still has many Mysteries.

 

[lxt]

Ganoderma ...

A conk

That is what you consider a "conk", Wow..... funny how different titles are given to things in other places!! that would be considered a type of "fungal" outgrowth in your pic!

LXT................

 

[M.D. Vaden]

That is what you consider a "conk", Wow..... funny how different titles are given to things in other places!! that would be considered a type of "fungal" outgrowth in your pic!

LXT................

One of the most popular conks may be the artist's conk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganoderma_applanatum

The largest artist conk I've found out here was at the Oregon coast - about 26" wide. Never did remove it, but wrote on the underside to see if it would mark, which it did.

 

[(WLL)]

the conk is the fruit like body. conks are not always present, some appear annualy and than disapear later. the word conk is used coast to coast.

 

[treeseer]

the conk is the fruit like body. conks are not always present, some appear annualy and than disapear later. the word conk is used coast to coast.

Exactly! Conk = fungal fruiting body. Props again to you!

:agree2:

 

[(WLL)]

Exactly! Conk = fungal fruiting body. Props again to you!

:agree2:

it is what it is

 

[BC WetCoast]

the conk is the fruit like body. conks are not always present, some appear annualy and than disapear later. the word conk is used coast to coast.

I usually use conk for fruiting bodies that are perennial, whereas those that are annual, I tend to lump in with a mushroom.

 

[(WLL)]

I usually use conk for fruiting bodies that are perennial, whereas those that are annual, I tend to lump in with a mushroom.

conk, shrooms dont matter its all fungi/decay indicators. i use both terms also. if you can eat em ill call em mushrooms, if not i call em conks.

 

[treesandsurf]

its all fungi/decay indicators.

Not always an indication of decay.

jp

 

[(WLL)]

Not always an indication of decay.

jp

please explain, inquiring:monkey: want ta lean a lil.in many ways''wll'', is still just:newbie:opcorn:

 

[Ekka]

Mario everything you've shown are burls. The difference is clear, and clearly stated here. Anyone who teaches or even talks about tree care should know the difference:

http://www.isa-arbor.com/Dictionary/DictionarySearch.aspx?ID=1

LOL, and Mario has the audacity to call me ignorant!

So far you have covered the following.

1/ Galls
2/ Burls
3/ Conks

But I can tell reading your posts that there's still uncertainty.

Because there's another character that's not discussed much ... Canker.

Now lets see, to link to an example that is neither Vaden's place (wikipedia) or Treeseer's place (ISbloodyA) ... I tell ya, variety is the spice of life and too much of one thing will make you sick!

http://www.bengtboysen.se/eng/pages/images.html

So we have ...

1/ Galls
2/ Burls
3/ Conks
4/ Cankers

 

[(WLL)]

LOL, and Mario has the audacity to call me ignorant!

So far you have covered the following.

1/ Galls
2/ Burls
3/ Conks

But I can tell reading your posts that there's still uncertainty.

Because there's another character that's not discussed much ... Canker.

Now lets see, to link to an example that is neither Vaden's place (wikipedia) or Treeseer's place (ISbloodyA) ... I tell ya, variety is the spice of life and too much of one thing will make you sick!

http://www.bengtboysen.se/eng/pages/images.html

So we have ...

1/ Galls
2/ Burls
3/ Conks
4/ Cankers

got any pics of a bleeding canker?................have a go at this bloody wanker

:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Ekka]

Often ironbark eucs here will get an anomaly.

In this picture you can see how the bark responds.

The section cut off and ready to be opened up.

And wella, a look inside.

Now normally you would have to pass diagnosis without dissection. However in this instance you have seen it all.

What would you call it? ....

1/ Gall
2/ Burl
3/ Conk
4/ Canker