Huztl MS660
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Now we r on the same page. I would support definitive Dave because he had helped me. I actually already have built a couple of permutations of that stack because it was interesting. ..pretty familiar with Madsen's, actually a great place. I've also revived some saws they built...that had run great and lasted as well...they had an interesting built concept that while possibly not "perfect ", was repeatable and reliable. ...another story. 
But let's be real, these are fun for us and neither of us and most who are following this need these saws. ..they are simply cool for a lot of reasons different for everyone. Bling saw is just yet another direction. As there are many. No one answer and part of the attraction is the fact these platforms can evolve in so many ways. Mine? Will be on the ragged edge of practical. And a practical one thrown in for comparisons. ..but they will be fun, somewhat usefull, and very repeatable. ...whitness this thread. And I will always both promote and appreciate folks like davhul when they add to the discussion. ..in fact I will back away..it's not about me. And I have nothing to prove or even want to be the "expert". Just want to share the hobby and give enough where folks can take their project their own way...my value add is simply showing its possible and fun. I will never do a bolt by bolt build. Thats Not my audience. . one thing you can count on..is when i see everyone on a "zig" i will "zag" simply to get more folks thinking and trying different products and build concepts
But let's be real, these are fun for us and neither of us and most who are following this need these saws. ..they are simply cool for a lot of reasons different for everyone. Bling saw is just yet another direction. As there are many. No one answer and part of the attraction is the fact these platforms can evolve in so many ways. Mine? Will be on the ragged edge of practical. And a practical one thrown in for comparisons. ..but they will be fun, somewhat usefull, and very repeatable. ...whitness this thread. And I will always both promote and appreciate folks like davhul when they add to the discussion. ..in fact I will back away..it's not about me. And I have nothing to prove or even want to be the "expert". Just want to share the hobby and give enough where folks can take their project their own way...my value add is simply showing its possible and fun. I will never do a bolt by bolt build. Thats Not my audience. .
one thing you can count on..is when i see everyone on a "zig" i will "zag" simply to get more folks thinking and trying different products and build concepts
The "davhul" chain adjuster "fix"...
The Chinese chain adjusters work with the bushing, it stops the ring gear from pushing the pinion away, they're not as smooth because the threads on the screw and the teeth on the ring and pinion gears are not as cleanly cut but they do wear in.
Go back and listen to you video on the fix. Just that portion. Close your eyes and open your mind and come back and read what you just wrote and see if they jive.Now we r on the same page. I would support definitive Dave because he had helped me. I actually already have built a couple of permutations of that stack because it was interesting. ..pretty familiar with Madsen's, actually a great place. I've also revived some saws they built...that ran great and lasted as well...they had an interesting built concept that while possibly not "perfect ", was repeatable and reliable. ...another story.
But let's be real, these are fun for us and neither of us and most who are following this need these saws. ..they are simply cool for a lot of reasons different for everyone. Bling saw is just yet another direction. As there are many. No one answer and part of the attraction is the fact these platforms can evolve in so many ways. Mine? Will be on the ragged edge of practical. And a practical one thrown in for comparisons. ..but they will be fun, somewhat usefull, and very repeatable. ...whitness this thread. And I will always both promote and appreciate folks like davhul when they add to the discussion. ..in fact I will back away..it's not about me. And I have nothing to prove or even want to be the "expert". Just want to share the hobby and give enough where folks can take their project their own way...my value add is simply showing its possible and fun. I will never do a bolt by bolt build. Thats Not my audience. .
Your videos are helpful and your are succeeding. I watched as trboxman and davhul troubleshot the problem. And then I heard you explore, share and approve of the fix. That guy on the internet. Your phone getting alerts in the background so it was within reach to find out the guys name and give him verbal credit while you are educating your followers with your helpful videos.
That's actually a patentable solution and so it was just business to me.
Did not bother that young man one bit. But we are old farts and know better. Backing off is not a good idea. I am camera shy we're probably not as pretty as donnieboy he gets in front of the camera. Not me! So it's a good idea to show how much fun it is.
PS I am a frequent customer of DD
Wow. This is a form of r & r for me, not going to get drawn into yet another pointless argument. Nor do I accept the premise.
On a more positive note:
What happens when you bring one of these MS660's to a Husqvarna / Jonsered "Noodling" party? This is A group of really good and very knowledgeable saw guys.....but all about Husqvarna or Jonsered therefore not particularly interested in Orange & White saws and especially not clones! These saws are never completely welcome at these events...but I had a job on the farm, they had saws. Most quite a bit smaller in displacement so never a fair or even relevant comparison, so we didn't and wouldn't go there, as thats pointless. In fact one of those "Pro" built 372's was...amazing. One of a few spectacular saws in his collection of race & performance saws. Didn't get a lot of that show on this video. Another story for another time. I had one of the 56mm work saws I built last year in the truck as usual...one that's been a problem free "go to" saw now for a year or so. It has quite a bit of time on it, constant cleaning & pledge keeps it video presentable. Along with a 562 that is past what "pledge" can deal with cosmetically, is what I've been using now. Curiosity eventually ruled the day ...another in the actions speak louder than words category. Have to say those Husqvarna 281/288's from another era are quite capable as well. Maybe another route to "cheap" big saw power...I have put a clean 281 in the work rotation now.
What happens when you bring one of these MS660's to a Husqvarna / Jonsered "Noodling" party? This is A group of really good and very knowledgeable saw guys.....but all about Husqvarna or Jonsered therefore not particularly interested in Orange & White saws and especially not clones! These saws are never completely welcome at these events...but I had a job on the farm, they had saws. Most quite a bit smaller in displacement so never a fair or even relevant comparison, so we didn't and wouldn't go there, as thats pointless. In fact one of those "Pro" built 372's was...amazing. One of a few spectacular saws in his collection of race & performance saws. Didn't get a lot of that show on this video. Another story for another time. I had one of the 56mm work saws I built last year in the truck as usual...one that's been a problem free "go to" saw now for a year or so. It has quite a bit of time on it, constant cleaning & pledge keeps it video presentable. Along with a 562 that is past what "pledge" can deal with cosmetically, is what I've been using now. Curiosity eventually ruled the day ...another in the actions speak louder than words category. Have to say those Husqvarna 281/288's from another era are quite capable as well. Maybe another route to "cheap" big saw power...I have put a clean 281 in the work rotation now.
These sounded more of a 'fun' idea when they were around $140.
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True...they were an absolute steal then..but suspect the quality may have improved on some of the components now, but really don't know for certain. Now its really a $300 plus dollar deal minimum when shipping is figured in and thats before B&C. Still a lot of saw if you work your way through the twists and turns. And there is no reason not to add more OEM content for reliability. So say $450 plus B&C for a solid enough saw for anyone but a pro. That's a safer number to go with then your pleased if you beat it. For a while folks were selling complete saws for $650 on eBay. Thats a tougher sale as used OEM saws clean are in that territory and I have to say starting with an old MS660 and adding seals is not a bad place to start. Trade a up few bucks and end up with less assembly time and possibly a better saw. I have a 650 carcass that's headed in that direction...for next year or the year after time allowing. But for a mechanical puzzle? Tough to beat the price and value of that capable a saw assuming you have the skills. This thread is full of folks who worked their way through to a working saw & shared their experience solving issues. One of the best ever threads on the subject. But as I have said over and over, if reliability is the priority and/or making a living with a saw is your world, OEM's are the best way to go regardless of brand. These are great for hobbyists and enthusiast's needing a project. But and I can't stress this enough, they aren't for everyone. But this is tilling old ground...
MS361 is still $136.
Darn near bought another.[emoji849]
Darn near bought another.[emoji849]
They removed the multi discount
If for no other reason to have a cousin saw along side your MS660's.. right cosmetics. Think a used OEM crank will fix any of what ails those 361's
Actually this one seems to make sense...any one try one of these yet?? Maybe I'll go through the process..
http://www.huztl.net/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=56042
http://www.huztl.net/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=56042
Hmm...I bet an email or two might just resolve that.
I received a "Product not found" error on Huztl's site. Is this a link to the new 440 parts kit for $181.00? I just ordered one.
