I need honest opinions please.

[BostonBull]

I sold a 036 PARTS SAW to a member on here. The saw was shipped out 2 days late and the buyer was made aware. I recieved an e-mail today from the buyer who is not happy to say the least. he believes I owe him a top end for this parts saw because it was not disclosed in the description that it needed a top end.

The link is below. I gave no further description other than what is listed, and the pics that are listed.

Would you HONESTLY not know that this saw needed a top end being sold as a PARTS saw, and seeing the pictures? Judging from the pics does this seem like a saw that has a GOOD top end in it?

The saw sold for $125 INCLUDING shipping to California.
This was the sellers idea to post it up here, and see what the guys over at AS thought.

Here is the link.... http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=39082

 

[smokechase II]

you blew it

"It is missing is part of the handle, air filter, and the inside half of the muffler."

You failed to state anything about top end.
What were you thinking?
No As is or As Pictured caveat.

In an American court of law you are toast.

(e)"verything seems to be there."

I'd refund the purchaser $0.65 promptly.

 

[Lakeside53]

I don't see any problem... He bought what was advertised "a parts saw" - it wasn't a "great condition, but disassembled saw".

 

[bobbyb13]

I'm still a new guy here but, I have in the last month bought and trade 12 saws, A parts saw is a parts saw. Good for parts. A 036 for $125, don't sound that bad to me even if it needs the top end. It's a parts saw sold with Pics.

 

[Jacob J.]

$125 with shipping included is around what it would have brought on e-bay. Maybe a little more. And most likely, the cylinder can be cleaned up with a little work and a low-cost aftermarket piston and rings can be fitted. The pictures very clearly show that the cylinder is off the saw and that it will need work.

 

[jmcguiretree]

Looks to me that the picture is worth a thousand words..:taped: :bang: :bang: :censored:

 

[sugarbush]

If he expected a good piston/cyl he should of asked about it before bidding.

 

[Trigger-Time]

I think you should have mentioned it.
But I think it is more on the buyer, Buyer should have ask some questions.
If I had bought it, I would have been to embarrassed to say anything
about because I would have know that I messed up by not asking

 

[Dan Forsh]

Okay, I'll jump straight in, but I don't know if I'll square the argument for either side.

From the description, I can see how the buyer might assume that the top end may be okay as you haven't mentioned it at all.

From the pictures I'd say that the jug is done, (why else would it be off and tossed to one side) and if the jug is done, so is the piston.

For your part you could have easily said so, for his part if he's of any experience he should have assumed so.


Dan

 

[CaseyForrest]

Ill have to agree...If I see "parts saw" then Ill either assume the P&C need work, or I will ask.

But "Parts Saw" should mean what it says, good for parts not a running saw.

 

[vegaome]

Hey Bostonbull,

I'm still rather young (compaired to some here) and impressionable but to me parts saw means just that, parts. I have no fear doing future bussiness with you on a parts saw or better. I see no problem. Now if someone says good work saw or fire wood saw to me that means I'm going to be cutting with it/usable. I would of asked though, the buyer does have some responcabilities in any transaction to my way of thinking. Your good to go here Bostonbull.

v/r

Mike

 

[jmcguiretree]

It's a PARTS SAW what did he think that he was getting.Also if the top end was included you probably would have showed it in the picture.When you see that the saw was apart you have to think that it was no good anyway.

 

[WoodTick007]

The saw he purchased was well worth the $125 including shipping. A good condition 036 will sell for $250-350 on ebay. My question is: What did he/she think they were buying?

Tell um to go pack sand.

 

[BostonBull]

I have read all of the posts thus far. Thanks for the input. Maybe I should have said something about it. But I have sold lots of parts saws here and nevr had to disclose the top end being junk on them. They are parts saws. And with the pictures associated with this saw, with it almost completely disassembled and the P & C laying in a box of parts just kicking around, I would have figured most everyone would just know its no good. Thats why it is not on the saw. If he had asked I would have definately told him.

He was trying to use posting a thread like this on AS as blackmale for me to buy him a new piston because he has a good cylinder for an 036 and figured the piston was good. When it arrived he "discovered" the jug to be bunk and the piston to have a piece broken off.

I am not trying to drag said memeber through the mud. I WILL NOT emntion his name as this deal was done off AS through private e-mails. But I would like a solution, and to know if I am in the wrong.

 

[computeruser]

If he expected a good piston/cyl he should of asked about it before bidding.

+1.

When in doubt, I'd assume that a torn-down saw is torn-down for a reason.

That said, I think that $125 shipped is a fair price for the saw as-is. Not a steal, but not a rip-off either.

 

[Big Woody]

Your add description would have been OK for ebay.

If you new the top end was bad or needed work you should have disclosed that. I didn't think AS was supposed to be a "Buyer Be Ware" environment.

If you are going to list parts that are missing or bad, you should be complete on something as obvious as a top end (at least here on AS).

 

[Dadatwins]

I would say a parts saw is that, parts. $125.00 shipped to west coast was a good deal in my opinion. I looked at that saw and was going to get it for the price. You probably would have got over $150 or more on ebay and had the shipping covered. I do not see grounds for a complaint in my opinion.

 

[drmiller100]

someone was trying to screw you, and it turned out he got a decent deal on a rebuildable saw.

in this case, one fair thing would be to have him pay shipping back, and you give him his money back. usually when i do this, the buyer quits whining.

normally whiney buyers are just trying to drag teh price down.

i guess the concept of "parts saw" was a little confusing for your buyer.

 

[jomoco]

Parts saws is parts saws, and to my mind it indicates that there are salvage parts on it, but don't expect it to run again without major work done to it.

jomoco

 

[Dan Forsh]

I think you maybe needed to say less than you have based on the danger of permanently souring your future relationship with the other member.

I would also say that the groundswell of opinion is in favour of the seller on this. A stand up guy would have to admit to this and leave the matter at that with no animosity, in my opinion.

Dan