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Erwin

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It's a wonderful thing to see the city crew finally got to your subdivision to do triming (the right way). I noticed all they make is flush cut. There are a few cut look really bad (as flush as yet can get). When I found my camera I'll go get a picture. I stopped by to ask why they are doing that. The 20 yearish looking guy holding the power pole saw told me that this is how they're taught in their Aboriculture training. He is quite upset that I am trying to tell him how to do his job and ask me to talk to the city hall. Those are my trees too, of course I went to the HALL. Now I'm waiting for their superviser to call me.
 
:rolleyes: You can hardly blame the kid IF he was taught to do it wrong!. Bureaucracies! The city probably did train him wrong:mad: :(
 
Erwin,

IF you care to follow up, find out who the person is who's training the crew. Make an appointment to talk with them. Find out if flush cuts are being taught and why. Bring along your Shigo books or any literature that you might have showing collar cuts. You've come across a teachable moment.

Tom
 
When they stonewall you call the local TV news stations and see if they want to do a story on the city screwing the trees up.

That is almost as bad as Cedarberg up her. They would have left a dogear.
 
minimising damage

good to see that after that really profesional smooth finish they took the time to ensure that no other dings, scrapes and cuts were created

thats some smooth cuting

jamie
 
HA HA HA

he he he, its not really fair on him, he aint here to defend himself.... has he taken the huff and fecked off d'ya think?

jamie
 
Yeah tahts pretty bad.
Id rather leave to much wood beyond the BBR than take to much.
In the future that tree will probably never heal adequately. Whereas if youd left more it certainly wood heal.
Reminds me of pecan trees.
I leave sometimes 6 -10 inches of wood beyong the BBR.
Yes I stubb them off. Why ?
You ever trimmed a pecan tree?
 
I've noticed on pecans the CODIT has to catch up with the decaying wood. By the time the CODIT catches up with the decaying wood 4 or more inches of rot has occured to the stubb.
Hence I leave pecan stubbs long to allow for the CODIT
 
Xtreme, No doubt decay is accelerated in humid Ga compared to Tx and Az, but I never had problems wth wound closure on pecans. Of course I try to avoid large wounds whenever possible.:)
 
That looks pathetic. Does not like the first time those trees were butchered either. I currently work for a municipality and would be embarrassed to make cuts like that. I would try to contact the city or town arborist in charge of that hack & slash crew and have a chat. Most cities have a city arborist on payroll who is supposed to be certified arborist and know better.
 
OUCH! You really do need to have a chat with who ever is responsible for training those kids to tomahawk those trees. I worked for a guy last spring who would do the exact same thing, and when I made cuts at the BBC he would get highly peeved. He would actually say "I dont know who taught you to trim trees but they taught you wrong" and when I showed him literature by Dr Shigo he actually told me that "he doesnt know what he is talking about" That was probibly just to save face, but a few weeks later I started noticing that he began making his finnish cuts at the BBC. He was a grumpy old bear and would never admit he was wrong, but I suspect he must have actually read the lit. that I gave him and adjusted his cutting style. Like I have said before, the average Joe Schmoe knows little about trees and its our responsibility as professional arborists to teach them right from wrong.

:Monkey:
 
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