Making Splitter with six way head??

[leon]

firewood

I don't recall bringing that topic up.

I'm just saying that applying simple area calculations to a much more complex issue will only lead to erroneous conclusions.

The screaming and scraping is caused by the squeezing force of the log and the coefficient of friction specific to the log and wedge being used, not by the area of the wedge. The mathematics for total friction don't even have a variable for area. Friction is independent of surface area. You can look it up and see for yourself.

Yes, I am familiar with squeezing force of the log in relation to the wedge. How can friction be independent of surface area when the firewood block encounters the multiple splitting heads wings?

Friction occurs with the help of two surfaces which could be moving or stationary or a solid passing through the a gaseous atmosphere.



We dealt with friction, heat and impact in drilling blast holes with drag and button carbide drill bits every day.

 

[Steve NW WI]

#### Leon, quit trying to sell a dang chomper to every Tom, Richard, and Harry that ever split a stick of wood.

Back on topic, long ago my splitter had a six way on it, welded on. You can still see where we cut them off. Permanent mount multiple wedges are a pain in the butt when you're dealing with various sized wood. If all your wood looks like a telephone pole, great. If not, skip the 6 way dream.

My next rendition of my big splitter may well have a removable or adjustable 4 way, but any more than that ain't gonna happen here.

 

[D&B Mack]

#### Leon, quit trying to sell a dang chomper to every Tom, Richard, and Harry that ever split a stick of wood.

Back on topic, long ago my splitter had a six way on it, welded on. You can still see where we cut them off. Permanent mount multiple wedges are a pain in the butt when you're dealing with various sized wood. If all your wood looks like a telephone pole, great. If not, skip the 6 way dream.

My next rendition of my big splitter may well have a removable or adjustable 4 way, but any more than that ain't gonna happen here.

First, I would like to six way your avatar :msp_thumbsup: (however, this will look bad when you change it one day)

Anyway, force of friction in any larger splitter is negligible. Btw, I don't think I have every seen a six way in person, only 2 then 4 then 8. My point being though, looking at six ways online, it would be tough to stagger the wedges and balance the forces on the wedge. Therefore, the wedges should be even with one another causing the need for a lot of ram force.

 

[leon]

firewood

#### Leon, quit trying to sell a dang Chomper to every Tom, Richard, and Harry that ever split a stick of wood.

Back on topic, long ago my splitter had a six way on it, welded on. You can still see where we cut them off. Permanent mount multiple wedges are a pain in the butt when you're dealing with various sized wood. If all your wood looks like a telephone pole, great. If not, skip the 6 way dream.

My next rendition of my big splitter may well have a removable or adjustable 4 way, but any more than that ain't gonna happen here.

I am not a representative of Rainier Hydraulics,
nor do I sell the Chomper line of firewood processors.

The Chomper firewood preocessors are strictly sold through
factory direct sales. In fact, over 20 years ago they had a reseller
in Vermont.


I have been a fan interested in the Chomper simply due to its simplicity
in operation and construction.

I was simply saying that the wedge design of the Chomper offers the end
user much more flexibility due to the design of the rotating wedge which
also allows the block to simply be sheared without splitting.


Who knows maybe they will make a Chomper prototype that will handle
6 foot pulp bolts or logs over 20 inches in diameter, there is always hope
that they will as the Simplex PTO design is more cost effective if you have
a twenty five to forty horsepower tractor.

I am sure if the folks at Rainer were approached about it they would
consider building a prototype.

A few thoughts on a too wet to work Saturday afternoon, Happy October first
everyone-now on to planning for the Halloween night snow storm of 2011.

 

[pdqdl]

Yes, I am familiar with squeezing force of the log in relation to the wedge. How can friction be independent of surface area when the firewood block encounters the multiple splitting heads wings?

Friction occurs with the help of two surfaces which could be moving or stationary or a solid passing through the a gaseous atmosphere.



We dealt with friction, heat and impact in drilling blast holes with drag and button carbide drill bits every day.

You should study physics before you argue physics with someone who has.

splitting wood is about breaking wood, which involves breaking chemical bonds between wood fibers, and breaking those fibers also. It ain't all about friction, although that is a component.

Every person on this planet deals with friction every moment of their lives. That doesn't mean that we all understand it.

 

[Thehagglinhag]

woodsplitter

Every woodsplitter makes splinters!!,
its simply due to the nature of any wood
used for firewood.

Hardwood species splinter much easier than
softwood species of wood simply due to the
density and tight grained nature of the
hardwood lignin and the hardwoods cambium
layers so thats normal.

The Chomper splits both a seasoned and unseasoned
loags used for firewood, this argument has no basis in fact.

I do not know where or how you base that argument because
the hydraulics work the same way for both soft wood species
and hardwood species harvested for firewood.

You also have remember that mature hardwood logs shatter
much, much easier than soft wood if they are harvested
and dropped when a tracked or wheeled harvester is not used.

Hardwoods and soft woods consumed for firewood split easier
when frozen as the wood grain is tighter and therefore more dense.


The Chomper super 16 splits up to 16 inch diameter logs.
If your blessed with larger pulpwood bolts more power to you.

Your dealing with a seasonal commodity, and I am simply trying
help you.

Are you still on the forum? Do you have a Chomper 16? I bought one last year but the guy is super slow about providing the user manual he promised. Do you have one? Maybe in digital format?

 

[cantoo]

Are you still on the forum? Do you have a Chomper 16? I bought one last year but the guy is super slow about providing the user manual he promised. Do you have one? Maybe in digital format?

Leon hasn't posted since Oct 10, 2013. And he still owes me 20 minutes of my time. If you get a response from him tell him to pay up or I will bad mouth Chompers all over the Net.