McCulloch Chain Saws

[2Twannabe]

Wow, my wife would kill me. As it is, she thinks I only have 3.

Most of these guys buy that many at one time. You'll get there. I just bought a lot of six and a box of parts that included a Pro 10-10 Automatic, Pro Mac 10-10S, 10-10 something Electronic Edition, Pro Mac 800, a John Deere (Echo) 50V, and a 55V. I didn't really want all of them but had to buy them all to get the two I really wanted. Those would be the 800 and the 10-10S.

Jeff

 

[heimannm]

I have on occasion picked up more than three at a time.





Mark

 

[nstueve]

Mark,
What is the Remington saw 2 photos up?

Also did you hear I found a 3-10E all complete with battery box???

 

[heimannm]

That Remington (755?) went to live with my brother in Newton, you should stop by there some time as well since he is much closer that I am. Far as I know I do not have any complete Remington saws left at my place. A few went to Mweba, several more to Sawdust 21, others just trickled out.

I have all three "E" models, 3-10E, 5-10E, and 10-10E all complete with the battery boxes. I did one time have a Batteries Plus shop make up a new set of batteries for the 3-10E but they did not last too long and were pretty expensive (>$80). From now on I will start the "E" saws with a jumper cable I made up to clip on a car battery. Fact is I had that setup with me at your first fall GTG 3 years ago?

Mark

 

[Zack_M]

I picked up an old Mcculloch 200 which appears to be in relatively good shape considering it's age. The biggest issue I've noticed so far is a chunk missing from around the rear bar stud on the clutch cover.
Does anyone have a spare they are willing to part with or know what other models are interchangeable?
Are there any companies still making bars for these that won't require modification? If not can anyone share pictures of what had to be modified to use a modern bar?
Are there any sources out there for enamel in the correct original yellow or does it have to be custom mixed?
Lastly what was the original finish on the wrap handle? I can't tell if it was plated or if it was a brushed finish (mine is just really in need of some TLC)

 

[heimannm]

The clutch cover from any 200, 250, 300, 380, 450, or 550 Series saw will work, as well as a few from older models like the 1-40 and 1-50 Series. Note that the 200 has the bar adjuster built into the clutch cover while certain older models had a different arrangement and so the clutch cover does not have any adjuster built in.

There are hundreds of NOS McCulloch bars plus as many after market bars (Oregon, General, Canon, etc.) available on e-bay every day.

You are unlikely to find any paint that is an exact match for your older saw. There are a number of off the shelf rattle cans that are close, just stroll through your local Walmart or other farm/fleet or DIY store and look around. Several of the industrial safety yellow are very close to matching the old saws.

The wrap handle may have been plated with chrome/nickel, may have simply been zinc plated. Again, take a look at e-bay and you may well be able to find something better. A number of the later saws had painted wrap handles (black) and some had a plastic or rubber sleeve in the grip area, others had a plastic dip coating in the grip area. Some of the models (1-50 Series, Super 250, and 550 for example) had a full wrap handle bar that is completely interchangeable with the original 1/2 wrap version.

Mark

 

[nstueve]

You are unlikely to find any paint that is an exact match for your older saw. There are a number of off the shelf rattle cans that are close, just stroll through your local Walmart or other farm/fleet or DIY store and look around. Several of the industrial safety yellow are very close to matching the old saws.

You can go to NAPA or other auto body supply shops and have them custom mix a reusable rattle can with any paint you want to match. If you go this route I recommend putting a good clear coat on to help protect the color coat from gas/oil mix. There are tons of yellows on the shelf's like Mark said, but blue's are way harder to match (ie: my makita's); only reason I know how to do this... Anyhow you'll have to decide how in-depth you want to get, I'm just tossing out another idea.

 

[nstueve]

That Remington (755?) went to live with my brother in Newton, you should stop by there some time as well since he is much closer that I am. Far as I know I do not have any complete Remington saws left at my place. A few went to Mweba, several more to Sawdust 21, others just trickled out.

I have all three "E" models, 3-10E, 5-10E, and 10-10E all complete with the battery boxes. I did one time have a Batteries Plus shop make up a new set of batteries for the 3-10E but they did not last too long and were pretty expensive (>$80). From now on I will start the "E" saws with a jumper cable I made up to clip on a car battery. Fact is I had that setup with me at your first fall GTG 3 years ago?

Mark

cool... must have missed that. Although I've missed a lot at the GTG's I've hosted.

I'll have to make a set of jummpers for this 3-10E so I can show it off to customers!

 

[2Twannabe]

I have on occasion picked up more than three at a time.

Mark

Yes, you would be one of the guys I was referring to, although I meant individual saws - not truckloads.

Jeff

 

[2Twannabe]

I was extremely disappointed to start on the Pro Mac 800 last night only to find the piston and cylinder are toast. Looks like this one is going to be a long process. If anyone knows or hears of a good used one or NOS, I'd appreciate a heads up.

Jeff

 

[heimannm]

Pistons are rather easy to find, customchainsawparts on e-bay has the "B" available most all the time as noted above. The "A" and "C" versions are not as common but generally can be found though they are a bit more spendy.

Finding a NOS or good used cylinder for the PM800 could be another story unless someone stumbles upon an undiscovered treasure again. It has happened with PM850 type cylinders (Joey and I each picked up a few before they were sold out), certainly Bryce came up with a motherload of the "B" pistons, maybe someone will discover a container load of cylinders one of these days.

Similar discovery of 795 cylinders was made a couple of years ago for guys working on the large frame models.

Mark

 

[2Twannabe]

Back in my dirt bike racing days, I occasionally had to have a cylinder replated. It was expensive though, and the cylinders were open on both ends. I don't know if they could work on a cylinder that's only open on one end. Anyone ever look into it?

Jeff

 

[heimannm]

We need to hear from Leeha on that topic but you may have to visit the other site to get his attention as I don't think he stops by AS very often anymore.

I believe he has use an outfit (U.S. Chrome?) on multiple occasions in the past to have cylinders replated.

Mark

P.S. Quick Google search says U.S. Chrome has locations in CT, NY, OH, IL, and WI...

 

[nstueve]

Back in my dirt bike racing days, I occasionally had to have a cylinder replated. It was expensive though, and the cylinders were open on both ends. I don't know if they could work on a cylinder that's only open on one end. Anyone ever look into it?

Jeff

Yes, on some of the "you'll never ever ever find one" cylinders... Guys have had a few replated here and there. Quality seems to be the bigger concern. I have yet to hear from one person thats had a chainsaw cylinder replated and actually liked the outcome. Shaun Carr has had one or two done. They are usable once you have them replated but it's a big cost. Considering you'll end up spending $200-$300 (I think... can't remember what I was quoted)... it's not worth it unless you have a saw that is worth some $$$ and you can't find good used.

I've considered doing a 143 cylinder before but those can still be found every so often if you are lucky so I'm holding out.

 

[nstueve]

We need to hear from Leeha on that topic but you may have to visit the other site to get his attention as I don't think he stops by AS very often anymore.
I believe he has use an outfit (U.S. Chrome?) on multiple occasions in the past to have cylinders replated.
Mark
P.S. Quick Google search says U.S. Chrome has locations in CT, NY, OH, IL, and WI...

You got any pics of that jumper cable system and how you hooked it up? guessing 12v and not 6v???

 

[heimannm]

Look very carefully in the background, you will see a little yellow dot in front of the Dodge with the open hood...the truck was giving a jump to the saw and not vice versa in this case.



I don't have any other photos. All of the 10 Series "E" saws had a standard phono jack in the battery box connected to the pack so you could connect it to the wall charger unit.



I simply made up a wire from some other 12V equipment with red/black leads and large alligator clips to connect to the battery on one end and plug into the saw with the other end.

Mark

 

[2Twannabe]

Yes, on some of the "you'll never ever ever find one" cylinders... Guys have had a few replated here and there. Quality seems to be the bigger concern. I have yet to hear from one person thats had a chainsaw cylinder replated and actually liked the outcome. Shaun Carr has had one or two done. They are usable once you have them replated but it's a big cost. Considering you'll end up spending $200-$300 (I think... can't remember what I was quoted)... it's not worth it unless you have a saw that is worth some $$$ and you can't find good used.

I've considered doing a 143 cylinder before but those can still be found every so often if you are lucky so I'm holding out.

It's been 6-8 years since I had a dirt bike cylinder replated, and it was $300 then. I'm sure it would be more now. That would put you in the neighborhood of a good used modern saw to get this thing going. Hopefully the used PM800 cylinder isn't one of those "never ever ever find one" propositions.

Jeff

 

[cobey]

dose anyone have a cp-70 carb ?? AWOL is helping me to find one i figured it wouldnt hurt to ask here
PM if you can help

 

[GrizzlyAdams86]

There was a PM 800 for sale at the local shop last time I was in there. Clutch cover had a chunk gone out of it back by the muffler was the only thing wrong with it.

 

[heimannm]

Tim - if it has decent compression, grab it. I have no doubts you can find a good home for it here somewhere if you don't keep it. I am down to 2 PM800's right now, could always use an extra few around. I would even pay a bonus for one with the coarse thread compression release above the muffler and no Q port...

Cobey - the OEM carburetor for the CP 70 is rather unique with larger throttle bore than other SDC's, like the PM800 with the compression release, I would pay a bonus to have a few extra SDC18, 19, 20, or 22 carburetors.

I did notice another McCulloch carburetor guide in the latest bunch of literature I picked up that seems to have some additional carburetor not listed in the SI-29 book.

If I ever get to spend some time at home and/or in the office I will try to get the later guide scanned and make it available.

Mark