Might as well have been a cliff

[Old Monkey]

Ill be interested to see what he does .

Me too. I love challenges like this. There is always a way.

 

[Buzzlightyear]

I've felled and burnt trees on ice less than 18"'s thick 10 years ago quite safely. I'd say your best option is dismantle it, block it and have enough grunts to carry it all up the steps. Just have plenty of $$$$'s on it

 

[Thor's Hammer]

Me too. I love challenges like this. There is always a way.

Sometimes you have to just do it UGLY

 

[fmueller]

Helicopter logging in Iowa, I may be mistaken but I think that would be a first. Also if its where I'm thinking, if you can get a crane on a flat bottomed fishing boat it might just work . Although I wish I could see some of those ideas in action, Iowa isn't a likely place for it. I think Thor is right, just gotta get ugly with it.

 

[tawilson]

So nobody has figured out how to burn a tree in place and just leave a pile of ashes?

 

[chicken89]

is it possible to get a boat with a crane on it? cut quazi small pieces to fall into water then crane them out? just a youngster brainstorming

 

[darkstar]

SOMOFA????? .... you all do wrong to diss EKKA ... he is one awesome contributor .... thats MR .. EKKA to you all and me .... lets geve it a break yo DARK

 

[PTS]

I think everyone needs to pull them out and see whos is bigger and get on with it.

 

[Old Monkey]

You know of course that digital images make everything look smaller. Let me see where's that scanner...woooo that's cold, should've warmed it up a bit...OK the computer seems to be having a problem with a worm or virus. I guess that's not going to work.

 

[DDM]

I bet snow mobiles dragging larger pieces across the ice and fires to burn the smaller stuff would work out be the easiest and cheapest way to go.

Okay,But I'm betting the logs will float.

 

[Ekka]

I have made some calculations on the weight of the trunk if it's a straight cone taper, assuming it's dried pine. So, if it's a heavier timber it will go up.

Volume would be 9 cubic metres.

Pine weighs in at around 500kg/m3 so the trunk alone would be around 4500KG. Now that's assuming it's dried pine and tapers out to nil like a Norfolk or something.

You still have to consider the weight of the branches.

Assuming you cut 25kg blocks which is considered a safe weight lift here it would equate to 180 blocks. If you have 5 men carrying them out it's only 36 blocks each.

Plus the branches.

Do you know what sort of tree it is?

 

[a_lopa]

i know of a company in melbourne that got asked to bid a huge oak that had fallen onto a really nice historic house during a storm(no crane access),the guy put 40k(it might have been 60k i cant remember)and got a lift chopper in and made a killing on the job,the insurance company just wanted it off with no extra damage.

 

[fmueller]

Here ya go, check this out. Nearby lift service. http://www.scottshelicopter.com/

 

[Ekka]

Now that's what I'm talking about.

There was a tree fell on a house in a storm up on the Sunshine Coast. They couldn't get a crane due to the driveway breaking etc so they got a helo in, cost $1500 for 1 hour!

Do you really need or want this job?

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Let's see if the riff raff is still poking around

There's some good information in this manual

https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldierPortal/atia/adlsc/view/altfmt/8408-1

 

[PTS]

Do you know what sort of tree it is?

Elm

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

You could set up some silt fence to catch any rocks that roll down, then just drag the tree up the hill with your wench, I mean winch.
Post some pictures.

 

[Gypo Logger]

Ekka's math on the weight of wood and # of blocks is interesting and I can actually contribute something in this regard and hope that the riff raff like Del Corbin and FMC don't one more time derail our thread.
Anyway in just under 14 hrs. I blocked 1080 cubic ft. of Maple into 16" pieces, loaded it into a material bucket and dumped it into a forty yard bin.
Now, before everybody jumps up and says, "Woopty Doo", that translates to 6 full cords or 16 tons of wood.
Not bad for an old fart you was in intensive care just a year ago!
It's the efficiency of the work, not the amount of work. Now I did pay for it a bit, and should have dragged it out over 3 five hr. days and not 2 seven hr. days.
Was a bit sore and slightly lack lustre the next day, but that's no biggy, because I'm going to do the same thing again.
So my point is, it's ok for you wood humpers to use me as an example.
You see, I really am a caring person.
John

 

[Gypo Logger]

Bulgarian Bugwood?

 

[fmueller]

www.heliservice.ch/logging.html
Some cool pics here too.