Modified 346XP's

[mattking]

I've decided that I really want a modded 346XP to go along with my bone stock (soon to be muffler-modded) 372XP.

I bought my 372XP from Danny Henry and he sure treated me well with the whole deal. I'm fairly certain I'll be getting a PP346XP from him. HOWEVER - I thought I'd throw this out here and see if anybody thought they could show somebody else's modified saws to be better than Dans...

Anybody think there's a better 'real work smaller saw' as a companion to a 372 for a farm with LOTS of stuff to cut than Danny's saws????

 

[rbtree]

Short answer to both questions, Nope.

My 2nd 346 will be going to Dan soon. My first was built by Dennis Greffard, and it is still a screamer, after 1.5 years. I have 4 Greffardized saws, all are good, but Dan has been doing loads of great work of late. I just received my first PP saw, a 338 climb saw, and he is (or will be soon) building a Dolmar 7900 for me.

When you do the 372 muffler, leave the stock port in, enlarge it, then put a second one in in the area of the bracket. No tubes, I don't like them. Lots of discussion and pics in the archives.

 

[jokers]

I don`t think that you can beat a modified 346 for a small saw, in fact modified 346s surprise alot of people.

I`ve got a Walkerized 346 that I`m very happy with, I`ve also had the pleasure of running a Dan Henry PP346. I don`t think you can beat what you get for the money with Dan.

Russ

 

[mryb]

I have both, a pp346 & pp372. I am extremely happy with both, So is my dad.
Rick/Saw Slut

 

[Ryan Willock]

My PP372xpg should come in today :blob6:

 

[woodsjunkie]

Ryan,
Sorry Danny must have made a mistake.
I have your 372xpg I love the heated handle.
Send me your address and i will get it shipped rite out to you as soon as it’s broke in.

 

[mryb]

Eric,
Send it over here so I can see if it runs as good as mine...Rick/Saw Slut

 

[rahtreelimbs]

For what it is worth, I haven't ran a stock 346. I do own 2 Dan Henry PP346's. I just received my 2nd one a week ago! This saw takes real good to mods. I am extremely happy with Dan's work and the price he charges! This saw is a real eye opener!

 

[Koa Man]

How can you contact Dan Henry, Ken Dunn and Dennis Greffard? I would like to get a modified mid size saw. Did a search on the internet but could not find anything other than Walker. I have a Walkerized 066 that I am very happy with. My Stihl 024, 028, 034 and 039 are all about shot. I was thinking about trying a Husky 346XP.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Originally posted by Koa Man
My Stihl 024, 028, 034 and 039 are all about shot.

I don't want to come off as a wise guy, but what do you do with all those little, tiny, baby, homeowner, one handed, girlie, low power saws?
I can see Johnny Homeowner having such saws, but a pro? Our crew would use topping saws(ms200) in the tree, then when they come down they use an 044 or larger saw on the ground.
We do have an 026, but it rarely gets used, it's too small. Maybe if your making one or two small cuts, but really, time is money.

All this talk about PPing a 346, isn't that like putting perfume on a pig? Ryan's got the idea, if your going to PP something, do a real saw, not some homeowner piece of crap.

To find the guys numbers, search their name here and look at their signature.

 

[rbtree]

MM,

You have got to be kidding. Obviously you have never tried a modified saw. If you had, you'd have first hand experience just as all of us with modded small saws have.

Years ago, when my second 026 died, it was years before I got even an 036. But, in the last 18 months, I acquired three 3 cube saws, 346, Shindaiwa 488, and Solo 651SP (in Craftsman green), all modded by Dennis Greffard. I absolutely love em, as does the whole crew. And, as you know, we have real wood out here, not that puny Wisconsin stuff......

The only saw in that group that was a "homeowner piece of crap" is the 039. Well, the 024 and 028's were a bit gutless till the Super versions came out.

 

[Stumper]

Sheesh Mike, Is the crew dumb or the boss cheap? I've done my share of limbing with a 268xpor 044. It works admirably for that if you don't have a 3CID class saw available. However, even stock a decent 3CID class saw will keep up with the bigger saws in up to 10-12 inch wood. I'm speaking about in the cut. In actual practice they are faster because being lighter and more controllable you can fly them through the brush cutting phase quicker. In a pinch they'll make the bigger cuts to -just slower than a 4CID or bigger saw. One of these days I'm going to try a professionally modified 3 cube saw. Mine aren't quite dead stock since I've enlarged the muffler outlets but even so slightly modified they are the most used saws on the truck.
I do not wish the pain and frustration of tennis elbow on anyone but if you get it you will immediately start wishing you had been doing your limbing with a smaller/lighter saw.:angel:

 

[Koa Man]

Originally posted by Mike Maas
I don't want to come off as a wise guy, but what do you do with all those little, tiny, baby, homeowner, one handed, girlie, low power saws?
I can see Johnny Homeowner having such saws, but a pro? Our crew would use topping saws(ms200) in the tree, then when they come down they use an 044 or larger saw on the ground.
We do have an 026, but it rarely gets used, it's too small. Maybe if your making one or two small cuts, but really, time is money.

All this talk about PPing a 346, isn't that like putting perfume on a pig? Ryan's got the idea, if your going to PP something, do a real saw, not some homeowner piece of crap.

I have two 020Ts and one MS200T (all 16 inch bars). all the "girlie" saws I mentioned above, a Walkerized 066 and a stock 084. The reason I like to use the mid size saws is they are a lot lighter. What do you use on removals that you have to piece out once the wood gets over 12 inches? I like to use the light weight "girlie" saws until the wood gets to about 20 inches and then go to the 066 with a 25 or 30 inch bar. I can see no reason to carry a saw that is 5-7 lbs. heavier when a smaller, easier starting one will do the job. So what if the girlie saw takes 10 seconds longer, if that, to go through 18 inch wood. I would bet I could get the smaller saw off my belt and start cutting before you could get the big saw going, so the net difference would probably be only about 5 seconds per cut. Let's see, even 50 cuts at 5 seconds longer each is just slightly over 4 minutes. I think I'll stick to using girlie saws for now.

 

[rbtree]

Come on all you small saw addicts, it's "Jump on the Maasman Saturday" Chime on in, ya heah, he is a big fella, and can take the razzin'. I'm sure, he'll take the lickin' and keep on tickin'!!

We'll hit him with so many french fries, he'll need an avalanche beacon for his mates to find him and dig him out.....

I reference FF's, cause of the new port he'll wish he had ripped....um...in his 345 Echo....

 

[rbtree]

koaman,

Hey, you better find us a big iron wood butt.... I'm coming over with my only stock saw, a dual port muffler 066, to see how much you beat me by....

..and since you're the host, I'll buy the libations...but you gotta supply the entertainment....


...Samoans need not apply.....

 

[rahtreelimbs]

Originally posted by Mike Maas
I don't want to come off as a wise guy, but what do you do with all those little, tiny, baby, homeowner, one handed, girlie, low power saws?

This I don't believe! The weight reduction is what I am after. Mike if you have ever ran a Dan Henry PP346 I hope you would change your mind. These so-called 3 cube girlie saws are very big on this site. Even if the wood is 12", I will still reach for a 3 cube saw. Why bust your arse with a 14 or 15 lb. saw when a 10 or 11 lb. saw will do just fine.

 

[Gypo Logger]

Girlie saws are fine by me, in fact, few things turn my crank more than showing up uninvited to a woodtick boogie, with a girlie saw and taking over the show, outcuting rocked out 066's, 084's etc.
Remember, power is as power does. Most big saw users are just being ostentatious, except me of course.
Speaking of 066's, I cranked up my 066KD today and dumped two large Spruce, lock, stock and barrel and it blasted thru so fast, one would think they were culverts made of papier- mache.
John

 

[geofore]

PP trim saws

MM, what are you smoke'n??? Power ported and modded trim saws are the way to go if you want a full compliment of great saws for arborist work. Why would you bust a nut picking up a heavy saw when a small saw will do the same job on a piece of wood 18" and under with less weight? I can hear the excuses now,"I didn't want to have to bend over to reach the wood, I don't spend that kind of money on a small saw the guys are going to beat up." They are not girly, homeowner saws and if you are going to PP one of your saws why not all of your saws? Cheap?

Koaman, get the PP small saws to replace your old worn saws and you'll wonder why you waited so long to get them. They do preform well and once you use them there is no going back to the plain jane saws, they just don't have the muscle the PP saws have. You will see and feel the difference.

 

[Koa Man]

geofore,
I already know what you mean. My Walker 066 cuts faster than my 084, so I don't use the 084 anymore unless I need a bar longer than 36 inches. (rarely) I would like to have Walker do my 084 also. I will get a mid size PP saw very soon, like this month, or at least have one on order my then. Still undecided which one to get. I would like to try a Husky. I always bought Stihls.

 

[rbtree]

koaman,

Go orange...you'll never look back!!!

I did a test today, in 8 inch holly, very hard wood, not exact times-no stop watch:

New 346- 6 seconds
New 346, Greffardized muffler 5 seconds
Old Greffardized 346, 4 seconds
Echo 3400, with rbtree mufflerized, very loud and fast...11 seconds
Husky PP338, almost broken in 8.5 seconds
old 335, Walkerized and down on power, about 8 seconds
New stock 200T, about 7.5 seconds
A year ago, the 335-W would have been about 7 seconds.

Something aint right with the 338, I think it is a dud, and Dan thinks it is due to the design not allowing the intake port to be opened up.. which sucks..or doesnt depending on the point of vue...
I'd guess that the 200T that Ken Dunn did would whiz that log up in under 6 seconds. In fact, as much as I resist running a 200T, due to the price, handle design, lanyard clip, I just may have to get one. There is absolutely no way that the 2.3 hp 338 even comes close to the 2.2 hp 200T...making it the only Stihl that is faster than a similar Husky.