Jeff....................when are you ever mellow? lol, I give it a few more posts before you let em have it!!!
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Jeff....................when are you ever mellow? lol, I give it a few more posts before you let em have it!!!
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LOL...the only reason I revisited this thread was cuz I saw Jeff had posted and thought "sweet, this will be good".....guess I will check back later.
ITSAGRIND...stay determined,stay SAFE,stay teachable.
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If you wire the 50k to my Nigerian address, I will purchase the equipment for you. ...
Cutler tree
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Alright I agree you should have some sort of a business plan if you plan on doing mostly grinding $15000 for a self propelled sounds like a great deal. I don't know not in the market for one. that leaves you with 35000 I would start with a good chipper I would go at least 12' and even more important an autofeeder, just so much safer. I'm gonna say 5 to 10k for this ( I bought my 94 morbark for $2500 and put about $500 in paint and repairs into it so I'm sure you can find one for closer to 5) next a bucket truck (something in the 50' or higher platform height over center booms, preferably certed) I'd say 15000 to 20000 on this) Spend some cash on insurance and advertising but the best things you can do is HIRE THE BEST CLIMBER YOU CAN FIND he will pay for himself in just added production, then take quality, safety, and what you learn off of him, it may not be a bad Idea to look for a great climber and offer them an equity stake or at least a consulting fee before you buy your first rope, saw etc.
Alright I agree you should have some sort of a business plan if you plan on doing mostly grinding $15000 for a self propelled sounds like a great deal. I don't know not in the market for one. that leaves you with 35000 I would start with a good chipper I would go at least 12' and even more important an autofeeder, just so much safer. I'm gonna say 5 to 10k for this ( I bought my 94 morbark for $2500 and put about $500 in paint and repairs into it so I'm sure you can find one for closer to 5) next a bucket truck (something in the 50' or higher platform height over center booms, preferably certed) I'd say 15000 to 20000 on this) Spend some cash on insurance and advertising but the best things you can do is HIRE THE BEST CLIMBER YOU CAN FIND he will pay for himself in just added production, then take quality, safety, and what you learn off of him, it may not be a bad Idea to look for a great climber and offer them an equity stake or at least a consulting fee before you buy your first rope, saw etc.
hiring a climber and giving him a stake is an excellent idea!!! thanks
LOL...the only reason I revisited this thread was cuz I saw Jeff had posted and thought "sweet, this will be good".....guess I will check back later.
ITSAGRIND...stay determined,stay SAFE,stay teachable.
thanks!! appreciate the advice.
I had other businesses in the past that were tied to the real estate bubble (yes, I lost everything, thats another story for another day): I am used to the hours, maintance and adult daycare, I don't know anything else.
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If your going in to the firewood business wright do not plan on making money wright off. You treat you customers the way you want to be treated and you will fair good. Thru time you will get those slickwillys business. If you plan on getting big each employ will get part of your profit and then the business runs you you don't run it any more so think down the road. It took me a while to get where I am with a lot of bad moves. I know cause it hurt me to lose customer because I got bad employes and the wrong equipment. I am down to 2 trucks 2 log splitter 1 wrapper 1 front end loader 2 trailers ad one retired part help. I make more now than I did before. I go in at night and sleep like a baby cause every thing is pay for. The next day I know my plan. FIre wooding is tough business in the fall firewood venders come out of the wood.They sell a little pick up load thrower in or 45 dollars and want to know why you truck is 65 dollars. You have to stack and show them the difference. Then there customers for life. Remember the little old lady has to have wood her size. Then the he man wants it in big chucks. One of my customers want a wrapped bundle ever day put on her fire place so she can build her little in her fire place and drink her glass of wineI sell more fire wood in June and July than in Jan and febuary. Later
If your going in to the firewood business wright do not plan on making money wright off. You treat you customers the way you want to be treated and you will fair good. Thru time you will get those slickwillys business. If you plan on getting big each employ will get part of your profit and then the business runs you you don't run it any more so think down the road. It took me a while to get where I am with a lot of bad moves. I know cause it hurt me to lose customer because I got bad employes and the wrong equipment. I am down to 2 trucks 2 log splitter 1 wrapper 1 front end loader 2 trailers ad one retired part help. I make more now than I did before. I go in at night and sleep like a baby cause every thing is pay for. The next day I know my plan. FIre wooding is tough business in the fall firewood venders come out of the wood.They sell a little pick up load thrower in or 45 dollars and want to know why you truck is 65 dollars. You have to stack and show them the difference. Then there customers for life. Remember the little old lady has to have wood her size. Then the he man wants it in big chucks. One of my customers want a wrapped bundle ever day put on her fire place so she can build her little in her fire place and drink her glass of wineI sell more fire wood in June and July than in Jan and febuary. Later
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treeclimber101
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From what I have read this thread makes me laugh & then thinking it to be serious.....just gives me gas!!
1st- muscles & a bow sawyou have done sales & climbed silos......
refer to thread titled "where do they come from"
WOW!!!!
LXT......................funny no ones afraid of heights till you put em up there :msp_rolleyes:
Your forgetting the most important thing were not accepting applications for new "TREE GUYS" at this time please check back at the beginning of the next building boom .... We've got enough right about now maybe check out plumbing or the medical industry...
fishercat
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If you're looking at Vermeer...............
you're gonna need more than 50k just for parts and repairs.
Bandit chippers and Carlton stumpers. for a start.
you're gonna need more than 50k just for parts and repairs.
Bandit chippers and Carlton stumpers. for a start.
treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
In all seriousness you could get in the game for a lot less than 50 K a decent truck and chipper will cost ya 20/25 grand and some hand tools maybe 2k , don't start a business with debt or you WILL NOT SUCEED its a fact that 80% of small business that starts with debt fail within 3yrs...
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