Nice little knot

[Tree Machine]

I use the bull hitch for the 1.75 and 2.2 mm ZingIt line.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Freeking zing it is so thin, the girth hitch is hard to un-tie!

 

[Tree Machine]

It depends what you're tying to. If you're tying to your bag, then you would have to untie it to tie it to the rope, and then untie from the rope to tie back on to the bag, UGgggghhhh.

If you tie to something outlandishly wild and zany, say, a small biner, then you would never have to untie anything ever again. If you're using eyed terminations in your ropes, then a mini aluminum biner makes perfect sense (clips on to shot bag, clips on to rope) and you're free of this repetitive tying / untying task.

I have a question. As far as ZingIt goes, I've historically tied a modified version of a cow hitch, but I don't know what the hitch is called. Here are the pictures, the first of the Cow hitch, the second, what I've used up until I learned the bull hitch.

For a million dollars, what's the name of hitch #2 ?

 

[Tree Machine]

So if you took that cow hitch, instead of twice over, or three times over, let's, just for fun, go 4 times over and see what it looks like, and does THIS hitch have a name?

 

[Tree Machine]

I tie it
I try it
I like it big
we got the 4 rap cow and she's cool, dig?

I tie on
A biner
it ain't no toy
We got the 4-rappin cow so my bag deploy

We rap one time
two time
three time, four
This funky rappin cow hitch'z a cow and more

This is
the end of my rappin beat
we got four times around
it's excessive meat

It's too much
I know that
I'm wonderin how
I got rappin with my brothers 'bout this funky cow


Before you start telling me I've got too much time on my hands, look at this hitch, imagine the same hitch wraped around rope. What is it? Look closely.... :Eye:

 

[Tree Machine]

Good Spy, TreeCo. You get the million dollars. I think most people think of a Prusik as a rope-on-rope thing.

By the way, Prusik would be capitalized because it's named after and Austrian dude named Carl Prusik. That would be Mr. Prusik to you.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Actually, it's not a Prusik because only one lead it connected. It's a Tautline hitch.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Yeah, that's right. Isn't there another name for the tautline when it changes direction, other than an open Prusik?

 

[Tree Machine]

That's a good question. Just as there's a few variations on the bowline, there's a few variations on the cow hitch. Here's a straight cow, but it's only called a cow hitch because it has a standing end and a working end. If this exact same configuration was done using a loop runner (sling) it would be called a 'choker', or girth hitch.

Here's the simple cow hitch.

 

[Tree Machine]

Here is what I've been calling a triple cow, which has been renamed (correctly)asymmetric Prusik. I've used this one for years up until Nick showed us the bull hitch.

Here's the triple cow, aka cow hitch with an extra turn, aka asymmetric Prusik, aka girth and a half.

 

[Tree Machine]

Then if you take half a cow, wrap the working end around the standing end one full turn, finish the cow and drop the standing end through the loop you just created, this would be a .... bull hitch?

 

[Tree Machine]

And if you did TWO full loops around the standing end you would have.... I dunno, a double bull hitch?

(I had to make this frame size a bit smaller to fit)

These are the questions that keep me awake at night.

 

[sharpstikman]

hellow yall. what about the two half hitch in small line this realy bights to whatever yuor tying to and is easy to untie.

 

[sharpstikman]

I am also working on having some break testing done on some knots and hitches ,will let yall know what i find out.

 

[NickfromWI]

Dr. Nick; how do ya think that Bull would do replacing a Cow for mounting (getting Kinky...) a Porty, pulley etc. to suitable anchor etc.?

I have this feeling that due to the extra bending in the rope, the bull is not as strong/efficient as the cow. I'm guessing you'd wand the cow for strength, the bull for security.

Since the cow works fine for attaching a porty, I don't think it'd be worth it to sacrifice the strength of the cow for unneeded security of the bull.

love
nick

 

[NickfromWI]

What is the advantage over a girth hitch, if it's bigger, slower to tie, hard to untied, and probably weaker breaking strength do to bends?

It's security makes it good for attaching large rope to small rings. I've had new 1/2" rope ungirth itself from the small ring on a RING/ring friction saver. This is what brought me to find a fix.

Thus is often the case in rigging. Which do you prefer, strength or security?

love
nick

 

[NickfromWI]

TREEMACHINE grandious .... you are certainly correct ...i rarely find nyaone who can tie a BEER knot .... so fess up arborist do most of you all know this wonderful knot...? and tree machine ...tell the boys how much the strength is increased by using the BEER instead of the water hmmmmm? knot..dark

The Beer would be used everywhere you'd use the Water knot. And the difference between the two????





Water and beer are basically the same, but the beer is better


this from the guy who doesn't drink!

love
nick

 

[NickfromWI]

Before you start telling me I've got too much time on my hands, look at this hitch, imagine the same hitch wraped around rope. What is it? Look closely.... :Eye:

I'd call that a distel!

love
nick

 

[darkstar]

the BEER IS WAY BETTER and STRONGER hey cool tip we use for the untie of a sticky throw line knot is ??????????????

 

[darkstar]

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