Nik's Poulan Thread

[redunshee]

Poulan 4000 ring size

W/o tearing my saw apart does anyone know what size caber rings I need for my 4000? OEM seem NLA.
Bob

 

[dboyd351]

And a 47.

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I like the car in the background of the middle picture.

 

[67L36Driver]

I like the car in the background of the middle picture.

'62 Corvair Monza. My fishin' and saw hauling ride.

 

[Acornhill]

4200 bar options

What bar would you guys recommend for my 4200? can i go as far as a 28"
here is what i have currently:

3400 - 18"
3700 - 20"
306A - 21" hard nose bar
4200 - 16" currentlyView attachment 277643

 

[OhioGregg]

What bar would you guys recommend for my 4200? can i go as far as a 28"
here is what i have currently:

3400 - 18"
3700 - 20"
306A - 21" hard nose bar
4200 - 16" currentlyView attachment 277643

Your list of saws & bar sizes look pretty good to me. I use & prefer a 24" bar on the 4200.
I have used a 28" on it also in a pinch, with no problem. A 24" in my opinion, seems to match the power & weight of the 4200 very well. If you go with bigger bar, things tend to get very nose heavy. If I need a bigger bar for a job, Ill just use a 85cc saw with a longer bar. Thats the joy of having lots of options when deciding what saws to grab for the task at hand.


Gregg,

 

[Wagnerwerks]

Yeah... You don't realize how big a 28" bar is until you stick it on the saw and the nose drops to the workbench.

 

[Eccentric]

Have any of you fellows ran a 32"-36" bar on a 4900 (or 7700) in big ('bar length') wood? If so, how did it do (and if you've also ran a 5200 in similar conditions how did the 4900 compare)? I have a nice 4900 coming (once it gets shipped) and would like to use it in some of the bigger wood we cut here (larger douglas fir, oak, and maple). I have 28" and 36" bars that I can run on that saw now. May pick up 30" or 32" bar for it in the future.

I run 28" and 32" bars on my 'other brand' 77-82cc saws and they work well. Got a line on a couple 5200's (and will hopefully score one of them) to put that 36" bar on in the future. Nothing's locked down on that front yet. Will be putting a 24" bar on the 4200 that's coming my way.

 

[Acornhill]

Yeah... You don't realize how big a 28" bar is until you stick it on the saw and the nose drops to the workbench.

yup, i had a PP455 with a 28" bar on it and it drops on the bench but cuts great with the 28" bar. it pulled through anything i would give it, sad to say i had to give that saw back this week. long story!!

 

[Acornhill]

pp4455

yup, i had a PP455 with a 28" bar on it and it drops on the bench but cuts great with the 28" bar. it pulled through anything i would give it, sad to say i had to give that saw back this week. long story!!

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[OhioGregg]

Have any of you fellows ran a 32"-36" bar on a 4900 (or 7700) in big ('bar length') wood? If so, how did it do (and if you've also ran a 5200 in similar conditions how did the 4900 compare)? I have a nice 4900 coming (once it gets shipped) and would like to use it in some of the bigger wood we cut here (larger douglas fir, oak, and maple). I have 28" and 36" bars that I can run on that saw now. May pick up 30" or 32" bar for it in the future.

I run 28" and 32" bars on my 'other brand' 77-82cc saws and they work well. Got a line on a couple 5200's (and will hopefully score one of them) to put that 36" bar on in the future. Nothing's locked down on that front yet. Will be putting a 24" bar on the 4200 that's coming my way.

I unfortunately, do not own one of the 77cc Poulans. But, one good thing about GTG's, like we had last fall, I got to run Steve's (67 Mustang) 7700 & 8500 back to back. To be honest, running them like that, cutting a few cookies, I couldn't tell much difference. Now if you were to use them felling & bucking large trees for a while, the difference might show up.

I do know how strong the 4200 & 5200 are though in actual cutting conditions. So I would be tickled pink to have one of the 77cc versions and use it for work in the woods. I think if I just had one of the 77cc versions, I would just invest in a variety of bars for it. Maybe a 24" 28" 30" or 32" or even a 36" depending on what I was cutting. I think it would be a very versatile large saw. It would still be more fun to have one of each of those models though!!


Gregg,

 

[Showme]

Have any of you fellows ran a 32"-36" bar on a 4900 (or 7700) in big ('bar length') wood? If so, how did it do (and if you've also ran a 5200 in similar conditions how did the 4900 compare)? I have a nice 4900 coming (once it gets shipped) and would like to use it in some of the bigger wood we cut here (larger douglas fir, oak, and maple). I have 28" and 36" bars that I can run on that saw now. May pick up 30" or 32" bar for it in the future.

I run 28" and 32" bars on my 'other brand' 77-82cc saws and they work well. Got a line on a couple 5200's (and will hopefully score one of them) to put that 36" bar on in the future. Nothing's locked down on that front yet. Will be putting a 24" bar on the 4200 that's coming my way.

Did you buy that 4900 that was on eBay a week or two ago? I backed off of bidding on it because it was the first item the guy had ever sold.

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

Did you buy that 4900 that was on eBay a week or two ago? I backed off of bidding on it because it was the first item the guy had ever sold.

Same here...looked like a nice saw though.

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

Have any of you fellows ran a 32"-36" bar on a 4900 (or 7700) in big ('bar length') wood? If so, how did it do (and if you've also ran a 5200 in similar conditions how did the 4900 compare)? I have a nice 4900 coming (once it gets shipped) and would like to use it in some of the bigger wood we cut here (larger douglas fir, oak, and maple). I have 28" and 36" bars that I can run on that saw now. May pick up 30" or 32" bar for it in the future.

I run 28" and 32" bars on my 'other brand' 77-82cc saws and they work well. Got a line on a couple 5200's (and will hopefully score one of them) to put that 36" bar on in the future. Nothing's locked down on that front yet. Will be putting a 24" bar on the 4200 that's coming my way.

I have ran large bars 30-36'' on all of the large poulans 4900,7700,5200,5400 and 8500 when I had them all and as Gregg already stated earlier, they all pouled them well with no major difference.

I have never been able to figure out (not that I have actually tried) why the 4900/7700 has so much more power than the eight cc smaller 4200,4400,6900. Yet the 5200,5400 and 8500 which is the same eight cc larger than the 4900/7700 really does not have much of a power difference over the 4900/7700.:msp_confused:

 

[rms61moparman]

I have ran large bars 30-36'' on all of the large poulans 4900,7700,5200,5400 and 8500 when I had them all and as Gregg already stated earlier, they all pouled them well with no major difference.

I have never been able to figure out (not that I have actually tried) why the 4900/7700 has so much more power than the eight cc smaller 4200,4400,6900. Yet the 5200,5400 and 8500 which is the same eight cc larger than the 4900/7700 really does not have much of a power difference over the 4900/7700.:msp_confused:

I'm pretty sure the answer will be found in a term the eggheads call "volumetric efficiency", but I agree that the 77cc saws seem unrealistically strong to many others by comparison.

ModifiedMark's 4900 is as strong as (if not stronger than) my 5.2 Craftsman.


Mike

 

[3000 FPS]

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Dang that was a nice looking saw.

 

[Acornhill]

Dang that was a nice looking saw.

Yup, it was. it was given to my not running and needing a lot of work. let's just say i did a huge favor for him so he could make things right for someone else.

i keep telling myself, i did good today (which is what i tell everyone i know to do at least once a day)

 

[Modifiedmark]

I'm pretty sure the answer will be found in a term the eggheads call "volumetric efficiency", but I agree that the 77cc saws seem unrealistically strong to many others by comparison.

ModifiedMark's 4900 is as strong as (if not stronger than) my 5.2 Craftsman.


Mike

Yep or also known as the the sweet spot!

I think the longest bar I have had on the 4900 was a 28" but I would have no qualms or second thoughts to put a 32" on it if needed. It would do fine with that.

I wouldnt be afraid at all to put it up against a modern 77cc saw like a MS460 with 32" bars either.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

I'm pretty sure it was Mark's 4900 I ran last year to compare to my stock 475. I love my 475, but the 4900 was way stronger in the cut.

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

I'm pretty sure it was Mark's 4900 I ran last year to compare to my stock 475. I love my 475, but the 4900 was way stronger in the cut.

I am a poulan guy and thats the bottom line but I have done some comparing myself. I let my buddy run my 505 and I would beat him with my 460. I let my buddy run my 460 and I would out run him with my 505. I let my buddy run my 8500 and I would out run him with my 505. I let my buddy run my 505 and I would out run him with my 8500. What I am saying is all three of these saws are very close in power. My 5400 must have had some work done to it before I bought it for 40 bucks because it would run the pizz out of all of the others even though it looked like it was pouled behind a truck for 30 miles.

 

[Modifiedmark]

I am a poulan guy and thats the bottom line but I have done some comparing myself. I let my buddy run my 505 and I would beat him with my 460. I let my buddy run my 460 and I would out run him with my 505. I let my buddy run my 8500 and I would out run him with my 505. I let my buddy run my 505 and I would out run him with my 8500. What I am saying is all three of these saws are very close in power. My 5400 must have had some work done to it before I bought it for 40 bucks because it would run the pizz out of all of the others even though it looked like it was pouled behind a truck for 30 miles.

Good points John, and beyond that, you can have 3 of the same exact saws and one maybe head and shoulders above the other 2.

When I say I wouldnt be afraid to but the 4900 up against something like I did, I aint saying it will be the faster in a race either. I mean that it will run side by side with the other and not lose by a large margin "if" it did.



Kevin did run both the 475 and 4900 himself and back to back, so like you say the different operators were not in that picture.

Then again, you should have been there to see that!