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It's good to see you finally have a day off work Mark.
I was just going to laugh at the seller and ask him if he was F'd in the head.
All the Canadian oddball saws out there and I have never been able to find an IPL for any of them.
Do any of the 3400 - 4000 series saws have PN's cast onto the cylinders? I've only had two off the saw and there was no PN on them that I could find.
No, no day off work. No rest for the wicked.

I had to go in just to fuel the pumps that were running and couldn't be shut down for the day. It was a short day with all day pay though. ;)
 
I'm working on another 5200 here. I've got a few questions. It needs all 6 AV mounts. I understand that there's a Husky mount that will work. Are these them? http://www.baileysonline.com/Chains...sqvarna/Husqvarna-AV-Mount-61---272-Small.axd Is the stud the same thread as the handle? I remember reading something about re-tapping, but didn't catch the details.

Also, this saw has a thin-ring piston. I don't recall my other 5200 having thin rings. It also has a bracket from the top of the muffler to the top center of the cylinder. This isn't on my 5200 either. What's the deal with that?

One more thing. What diameter fuel line to I need? Looks like the hole's a little bigger than 1/4".

I'm eager to hear the answer to your AV mount question. $30 apiece (x6) isn't too attractive.

The 5200's I've seen have all had thin rings. IIRC the part # is the same for the rings in all the 85cc Countervibes from the 5200 through the 8500.

That top cover is the 'early' style. Later saws in the series have the screws on the sides instead of the central stud on the muffler bracket.

Those saws originally used a thin-wall 3/16" ID fuel line. Unfortunately, that line isn't available anymore. You have a few options.

1)You can enlarge that hole so that 3/16" ID 5/16" OD line will pass through. That line's pretty thick and inflexible, so it may or may not 'find' the lowest part of the tank depending on how the saw's oriented.

2)Run a smaller diameter fuel line into the tank, and then 3/16x5/16" line to the carb, with a double barb fitting (of two different sizes) in lilne. You may have to fabricate that double-barb fitting.

3)Use a Poulan 361 type fuel fitting at the tank wall. Drill and tap the tank wall for the fitting, put 1/8" ID line in the tank, and 3/16"x5/16" line from the fitting to the carb. I obtained a couple of those fittings from a member here and am using them on my saws. I could use a couple more of them.....
 
I'm working on another 5200 here. I've got a few questions. It needs all 6 AV mounts. I understand that there's a Husky mount that will work. Are these them? http://www.baileysonline.com/Chains...sqvarna/Husqvarna-AV-Mount-61---272-Small.axd Is the stud the same thread as the handle? I remember reading something about re-tapping, but didn't catch the details.

Also, this saw has a thin-ring piston. I don't recall my other 5200 having thin rings. It also has a bracket from the top of the muffler to the top center of the cylinder. This isn't on my 5200 either. What's the deal with that?

One more thing. What diameter fuel line to I need? Looks like the hole's a little bigger than 1/4".

I'm not aware of any Husky mount that will work. The Husky mounts are probably metric while there is nothing metric on the 5200. Let me know if you come up with a replacement. NOS mounts when you can find them are not cheap.

A 5200 is a thin ring piston. There were some Sunbelt overbored cyls floating around that had thick ring pistons though.

The thin wall fuel line used on a 5200 is not available that I have found. I use a poulan 361 fuel line bulk head fitting in it that used a 1/8" ID line in the tank and it used a 3/16" ID line from the tank to the carb.

Some mufflers had that bracket and some didn't. I think the early ones did not have them as they used a bracket in those cyl holes to hold the top cover on.

EDIT, Aaron types faster then I do..
 
He is asking about the brace on top the muffler that screws to the top of the cyl, not the top cover...

Ah....

My 5200 has the muffler bracket, but with a 'side screw' top cover (as does my 4900 of course). My parts 5200 has the bracket with a stud on it for the top cover. I mixed Brad's question about the AV mount "stud" with his question about the muffler bracket in my head.....
 
There was a DIRTY 4000 (missing the clutch cover) on feebay yesterday. Starting bid was something like $15............but the shipping was around $80 to me. Put it in my watch list. Was gonna contact the seller to see if we could work out more reasonable shipping. An hour or so later the auction had ended (guess I didn't look at the ending date/time) with one bid. Must have been a very short listing, as I'd just gotten notification of a Poulan 4000 listing in my emails that day.

The description was very vague, with lots of 'wiggle room' for the seller to use later if the buyer is not happy. I also found his comment about the manual oiler assinine and irritating. Seller also has a less than stellar recent feedback rating. All his stuff looked crusty, like it was just drug out of a dank barn. I wasn't willing to pay close to $100 on a roached 4000 (even though the external parts looked good under the grime) as I already have a 4000 and a PP375. Somebody took the risk. Will see if it's somebody here....:popcorn:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/poulan-chainsaw-counter-vibe-4000-non-running-/191020452091?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item2c79b4c8fb&nma=true&si=5xIwMyaZqMUWaa1gpC6gWJkxLCw%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I'm in NY, and the shipping to me would be $25, so someone on the east coast probably bought it. It was $15 Buy It Now, not an auction. Not a terrible deal for $40.

Scott in Penfield NY
 
I'm in NY, and the shipping to me would be $25, so someone on the east coast probably bought it. It was $15 Buy It Now, not an auction. Not a terrible deal for $40.

Scott in Penfield NY

I didn't notice that it was BIN. Looking back at it (and clicking the one bid to see the history) I see that it was a $10 starting bid, with $15 BIN. That explains why it ended early. With the shipping that much cheaper on the east coast, it'd been worth the gamble. I'd have grabbed it for $40 all-out. $94-ish shipped was too steep for me given the unknowns....
 
Do you fellows prefer the Zama C3A or Walbro HDB carburetors as used on the 3400-4000 and PP375-395 saws? Reason I ask is that I just got a PP375 with the C3A.............and since I'm rebuilding the carburetor anyways I was thinking about instead rebuilding a spare HDB (from a 3400) and putting that on the PP375. I've only messed with the HDB's on this series. Never have been impressed with Zamas in the past.

Thinking that switching to the HDB would mean having to keep one less carb kit on hand, since my 4000 has an HDB, and my 3400-in-a-box will certainly run an HDB whenever I get around to putting it together. My friends with saws in this series all have HDB's on their saws (and I'm the one who services their saws).

Basically what I'm getting at.................is there any reason to not switch to the HDB? I'm not a huge fan of the HDB for a couple reasons..........but it works and I have experience with them. I'm ordering a couple K10-HDB kits anyways......and now's the time to add the Zama kit (RB-31 right?) to the order if'n I'm gonna do it....
 
There was a DIRTY 4000 (missing the clutch cover) on feebay yesterday. Starting bid was something like $15............but the shipping was around $80 to me. Put it in my watch list. Was gonna contact the seller to see if we could work out more reasonable shipping. An hour or so later the auction had ended (guess I didn't look at the ending date/time) with one bid. Must have been a very short listing, as I'd just gotten notification of a Poulan 4000 listing in my emails that day.

The description was very vague, with lots of 'wiggle room' for the seller to use later if the buyer is not happy. I also found his comment about the manual oiler assinine and irritating. Seller also has a less than stellar recent feedback rating. All his stuff looked crusty, like it was just drug out of a dank barn. I wasn't willing to pay close to $100 on a roached 4000 (even though the external parts looked good under the grime) as I already have a 4000 and a PP375. Somebody took the risk. Will see if it's somebody here....:popcorn:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/poulan-chainsaw-counter-vibe-4000-non-running-/191020452091?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item2c79b4c8fb&nma=true&si=5xIwMyaZqMUWaa1gpC6gWJkxLCw%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I confess. Shipping was more than I wished($55.00) but for $15.00 thought I'd take a chance. Looks like the left half of the rear handle has a crack( somewhat common). I agree its a gamble but maybe I lucked out. Time will tell. Thought same thing about his oiler comment. I like to use it every couple seconds.

Bob
 
Do you fellows prefer the Zama C3A or Walbro HDB carburetors as used on the 3400-4000 and PP375-395 saws? Reason I ask is that I just got a PP375 with the C3A.............and since I'm rebuilding the carburetor anyways I was thinking about instead rebuilding a spare HDB (from a 3400) and putting that on the PP375. I've only messed with the HDB's on this series. Never have been impressed with Zamas in the past.

Thinking that switching to the HDB would mean having to keep one less carb kit on hand, since my 4000 has an HDB, and my 3400-in-a-box will certainly run an HDB whenever I get around to putting it together. My friends with saws in this series all have HDB's on their saws (and I'm the one who services their saws).

Basically what I'm getting at.................is there any reason to not switch to the HDB? I'm not a huge fan of the HDB for a couple reasons..........but it works and I have experience with them. I'm ordering a couple K10-HDB kits anyways......and now's the time to add the Zama kit (RB-31 right?) to the order if'n I'm gonna do it....

You know , I 've never seen a 3400-4000 with a Zama carb. I like the HDB and how easy to rebuild and never had an issue with them.
 
Do you fellows prefer the Zama C3A or Walbro HDB carburetors as used on the 3400-4000 and PP375-395 saws? Reason I ask is that I just got a PP375 with the C3A.............and since I'm rebuilding the carburetor anyways I was thinking about instead rebuilding a spare HDB (from a 3400) and putting that on the PP375. I've only messed with the HDB's on this series. Never have been impressed with Zamas in the past.

Thinking that switching to the HDB would mean having to keep one less carb kit on hand, since my 4000 has an HDB, and my 3400-in-a-box will certainly run an HDB whenever I get around to putting it together. My friends with saws in this series all have HDB's on their saws (and I'm the one who services their saws).

Basically what I'm getting at.................is there any reason to not switch to the HDB? I'm not a huge fan of the HDB for a couple reasons..........but it works and I have experience with them. I'm ordering a couple K10-HDB kits anyways......and now's the time to add the Zama kit (RB-31 right?) to the order if'n I'm gonna do it....

Aaron, What little experience I have with the Zama C3A is on my PP375. I got this kit from Poulan when I went over mine. I have only used the saw once, for a wood cutting session..:rolleyes: So I can't give any real plus or negatives between the two. To me, they look alike externally and will swap easy enough.

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Gregg are those real wood grips on that CZ 52? How many "dots" does the top rail have? Do you have any real CZ ammo? Oh yeah, Yea Poulan!

I'll probably get whacked across the knuckles for posting off topic stuff here, but oh well. :eek:
Yes they are walnut grips. I think I bought those off ebay. Been so long ago that I bought this CZ52, I forgot much of what I once knew..LOL I have never been able to find any of the "dots". Only dot I have ever found was right in front of the rear sight. To me, it looks like a very small stake mark for the site.

I did put a" new improved" firing pin set up in it, as I remember. Pin, extractor, spring etc. Not that anything was wrong with the original. Just what the" experts" on whatever gun forum I followed at the time recommended. Don't remember where I got that from. The only ammo I have used in it, was Eastern Block surplus stuff. (corrosive) Chec, Romania, Bulgaria, can't remember. Old geezer here. LOL.
 
I confess. Shipping was more than I wished($55.00) but for $15.00 thought I'd take a chance. Looks like the left half of the rear handle has a crack( somewhat common). I agree its a gamble but maybe I lucked out. Time will tell. Thought same thing about his oiler comment. I like to use it every couple seconds.

Bob


Heck I think you did just fine on that saw. I have seen what good running 4000's cost on ebay and you can afford to do a lot for that saw. As far as the handle is concerned you know where to get that fixed.
 
Do you fellows prefer the Zama C3A or Walbro HDB carburetors as used on the 3400-4000 and PP375-395 saws? Reason I ask is that I just got a PP375 with the C3A.............and since I'm rebuilding the carburetor anyways I was thinking about instead rebuilding a spare HDB (from a 3400) and putting that on the PP375. I've only messed with the HDB's on this series. Never have been impressed with Zamas in the past.

Thinking that switching to the HDB would mean having to keep one less carb kit on hand, since my 4000 has an HDB, and my 3400-in-a-box will certainly run an HDB whenever I get around to putting it together. My friends with saws in this series all have HDB's on their saws (and I'm the one who services their saws).

Basically what I'm getting at.................is there any reason to not switch to the HDB? I'm not a huge fan of the HDB for a couple reasons..........but it works and I have experience with them. I'm ordering a couple K10-HDB kits anyways......and now's the time to add the Zama kit (RB-31 right?) to the order if'n I'm gonna do it....

I have only rebuilt one of the Zama carbs for a 3400 series and did not have any difficulties with it and it seemed to work just as good as the Walbro. So 6 of one half dozen of the other.
 
Belated Happy New Year!

Did anyone here snag this Dayton badged Poulan? I put it on my watch list to think about, forgot about it, and of course it sold.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dayton-2Z970-Chainsaw-/181291534443?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item2a35d1486b&nma=true&si=3hdP4z97Aljl8CUH86v1T7nyLMM%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Happy new year Chris and everyone else here! I did exactly the same as you (put it in my watch list, and then forgot). That was a nice looking Dayton badged S25-CVA. Somebody got a good deal. Hopefully it's somebody here.

Thanks guys for the input regarding the Zama/Walbro question. Since they're basically the same, and the rest of these saws that I support/service have HDB's..........I'm going to swap this saw over to the HDB and keep the C3A as a spare.
 
Happy new year Chris and everyone else here! I did exactly the same as you (put it in my watch list, and then forgot). That was a nice looking Dayton badged S25-CVA. Somebody got a good deal. Hopefully it's somebody here.

Thanks guys for the input regarding the Zama/Walbro question. Since they're basically the same, and the rest of these saws that I support/service have HDB's..........I'm going to swap this saw over to the HDB and keep the C3A as a spare.

I did just that, when I was going over this PP375. I put a Walbro on it temporarily. Linkages and everything is the same. Worked fine. Only thing I can figure is Poulan got a good deal on a batch of the Zama carbs back there in the late 80's early 90's. o_O
 

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