Nik's Poulan Thread

[redunshee]

Here's why it's good to replace welch plugs, Bob. This is an HL-84A from a Poulan model K bowsaw I'm working on. You can see than blob of nasty looking stuff underneath where the welch plug was. (Large orifice near the top.) I didn't use to replace them but do more often than not now. Just have to be careful punching through the plug to as not to damage anything underneath. I personally like to use a drill press with a small bit. For me, it's easier to control pressure so as not to do damage.

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BTW, don't know if this carb is going to make it. You can see the pitting in it from years sitting with old gas and moisture in it. Several other serious issues to deal with on this saw as well. No fire for one.

Steve

Maybe I'll replace the plugs on the carb I took off my Dayton. I have a small drill and will use a small bit and be careful. I read that there is a lo and hi welch plug and if the high is plugged it would affect high speed operation. Maybe that's why the saw will idle great but no accelerate. I'll give it a shot.
I did do a complete pressure test on the carb and it passed. This included doing a test with the LO speed screw turned in and alternatively with the Hi speed screw turned in. If you quickly depress the metering diaphragm through the cover, the pressure should drop a bit and then hold as the metering side gets pressurized. That signifys that the needle is opening properly. Welch plugs are my only recourse left.

Bob

 

[Modifiedmark]

A couple more Poulans coming!

Already recived a Wright 111 project saw this week and got a couple more coming.

One is a Ridged 590-17 or better known as a Poulan 306A. I have been on the hunt for one of these for sometime and this one should be a decent one.

The other is a Craftman 4.2 better known as a 4200. Blackoak listed it on ebay and near the end I threw a bid on it and woke up and found the rest of you had missed it or something as I ended up winning it. It will make a nice companion to my Craftsman 5.2!

The deal with the searching for the Allis Chalmers saw turned a little sour as the farmer called and said his son had given it to a guy he worked with that messes with saws.

The guy said he still has some other saws to dig out, and will see if the son can get the AC saw back. I have a antique dinner bell the farmer seems to want so I can maybe hold it for leverage. LOL

I also thought I was doing good by selling 2 saws last week, but now I got 3 more this week! Cant thin many out that way.

 

[OhioGregg]

Congrats on the 4.2 Mark! Was on my watch list, but was as far as I took it.
If memory serves me, You should have a pretty well rounded Sears Craftsman branded saw line up. A guy could have a real nice collection, with just the RED Poulans.


Gregg,

 

[67 Mustang]

The other is a Craftman 4.2 better known as a 4200. Blackoak listed it on ebay and near the end I threw a bid on it and woke up and found the rest of you had missed it or something as I ended up winning it. It will make a nice companion to my Craftsman 5.2!

I was watching the 4.2 but just bought another 4200 and thought it fair to give someone else a shot at that one. Glad you got it.

I also thought I was doing good by selling 2 saws last week, but now I got 3 more this week! Cant thin many out that way.

I'm buried in projects right now myself. Trying to get a set of rings fitted for that K model. Might try to get a set for a 245A just to see how they fit and compare.

S

 

[redunshee]

Already recived a Wright 111 project saw this week and got a couple more coming.

One is a Ridged 590-17 or better known as a Poulan 306A. I have been on the hunt for one of these for sometime and this one should be a decent one.

The other is a Craftman 4.2 better known as a 4200. Blackoak listed it on ebay and near the end I threw a bid on it and woke up and found the rest of you had missed it or something as I ended up winning it. It will make a nice companion to my Craftsman 5.2!

The deal with the searching for the Allis Chalmers saw turned a little sour as the farmer called and said his son had given it to a guy he worked with that messes with saws.

The guy said he still has some other saws to dig out, and will see if the son can get the AC saw back. I have a antique dinner bell the farmer seems to want so I can maybe hold it for leverage. LOL

I also thought I was doing good by selling 2 saws last week, but now I got 3 more this week! Cant thin many out that way.

You got me on that one Mark. I couldn't stay up that late and didn't want to go any higher. Congrats.
Bob

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Already recived a Wright 111 project saw this week and got a couple more coming.

One is a Ridged 590-17 or better known as a Poulan 306A. I have been on the hunt for one of these for sometime and this one should be a decent one.

The other is a Craftman 4.2 better known as a 4200. Blackoak listed it on ebay and near the end I threw a bid on it and woke up and found the rest of you had missed it or something as I ended up winning it. It will make a nice companion to my Craftsman 5.2!

The deal with the searching for the Allis Chalmers saw turned a little sour as the farmer called and said his son had given it to a guy he worked with that messes with saws.

The guy said he still has some other saws to dig out, and will see if the son can get the AC saw back. I have a antique dinner bell the farmer seems to want so I can maybe hold it for leverage. LOL

I also thought I was doing good by selling 2 saws last week, but now I got 3 more this week! Cant thin many out that way.

Got any pics of your saw collection? I, for one would be interested in seeing the line-up.

 

[joe25DA]

Hey guys. I have some cool pics to post. Just haven't had the time! Bought my first house. Me and my dad been doing a lot of cutting and putting the green to work. Also I think I may have found my "2 saw plan"! Ton of pics hopefully up tomm.

 

[rms61moparman]

Hey guys. I have some cool pics to post. Just haven't had the time! Bought my first house. Me and my dad been doing a lot of cutting and putting the green to work. Also I think I may have found my "2 saw plan"! Ton of pics hopefully up tomm.

HEY!!!

Isn't that a lot like..."Know how to keep a bunch of saw junkies in suspense?"
LOL

You are a MEAN man Joe!


Mike

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

HEY!!!

Isn't that a lot like..."Know how to keep a bunck of saw junkies in suspense?"
LOL

You are a MEAN man Joe!


Mike

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[joe25DA]

I know! I'm sorry! Right now we only have one computer and kristy is on it 5hrs a day taking her masters class! Ill say this. My 3.7 with a 20" bar has impressed the he// out of me. It got better with each tank. That saw will pop on the first pull and running on second. Cold.

 

[joe25DA]

The first set of pics is a tree the escavator knocked down next door. It was a ample tree. I limbed it with my S25CVA. That saw ripped. I was cutting thru 6'' limbs like nothing. Then all of the sudden it got very loud. I looked and the muffler cover fell off! That was fun trying to find the cover and baffles that fell down in the brush, My fault tho. I didnt tighten it enough when I first checked the p/c. Next I Bucked it up with my 3.7. I have a 20'' husky replacable tip bar on if with stihl 3/8 rsc. I also have my 4000 muffler on this with drilled out baffle. Saw ran great and like I said it seemed to run better with each tank. I have more pics to post.
Maple knocked down
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I had to pull the trunk in the dirt so I could cut it.
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Big chain and a locking rear end worked good.
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[redunshee]

The first set of pics is a tree the escavator knocked down next door. It was a ample tree. I limbed it with my S25CVA. That saw ripped. I was cutting thru 6'' limbs like nothing. Then all of the sudden it got very loud. I looked and the muffler cover fell off! That was fun trying to find the cover and baffles that fell down in the brush, My fault tho. I didnt tighten it enough when I first checked the p/c. Next I Bucked it up with my 3.7. I have a 20'' husky replacable tip bar on if with stihl 3/8 rsc. I also have my 4000 muffler on this with drilled out baffle. Saw ran great and like I said it seemed to run better with each tank. I have more pics to post.
Maple knocked down
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Big chain and a locking rear end worked good.
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Joe, trying to figure out what Husky and /or Homelite bars will fit the 3700-4000 etc . saws. Is the small mount Husky 8 mm or do you have to use a spacer? Need to get some 20" and larger bars and would like to pick up some used ones.
Bob

 

[OhioGregg]

Nice pics Joe Keep them comming.
Funny you using the 3.7 Craftsman, I got mine out to use on the next wood cutting trip to the woods. I havn't used it in some time, figured it could use the exersize. The saws I been using most lately it seems, is the Super 380 20" bar, and 4000 with 24" husky bar.


Gregg,

 

[OhioGregg]

Joe, trying to figure out what Husky and /or Homelite bars will fit the 3700-4000 etc . saws. Is the small mount Husky 8 mm or do you have to use a spacer? Need to get some 20" and larger bars and would like to pick up some used ones.
Bob

Bob, I been doing the same thing lately. The large mount Husky bars are the ones you want to use. Will need to use a set of the spring spacers on the studs. Or, possibly the old S-Clip spacers. The Husky bars work great on the Poulans. The only fly in the ointment, is you might need to have a chain with 1 link less than what the Husky needs. My 24" husky bar & chain worked out ok, was enough adjustment left to work. But, the 28" bar I put on the 5200 needed a new chain, 1 link less than the Husky.


Gregg,

 

[redunshee]

Bob, I been doing the same thing lately. The large mount Husky bars are the ones you want to use. Will need to use a set of the spring spacers on the studs. Or, possibly the old S-Clip spacers. The Husky bars work great on the Poulans. The only fly in the ointment, is you might need to have a chain with 1 link less than what the Husky needs. My 24" husky bar & chain worked out ok, was enough adjustment left to work. But, the 28" bar I put on the 5200 needed a new chain, 1 link less than the Husky.


Gregg,

Gregg, by Husky large mount I assume you are referring to the 9.5 mm mount? This is similar, I believe, as the Oregon D009 or D196 mount, isn't it? If so then the spacer needs make up the space from the 8mm Poulan mount(D176 Oregon) to 9.5mm, right?
Bob

 

[OhioGregg]

Gregg, by Husky large mount I assume you are referring to the 9.5 mm mount? This is similar, I believe, as the Oregon D009 or D196 mount, isn't it? If so then the spacer needs make up the space from the 8mm Poulan mount(D176 Oregon) to 9.5mm, right?
Bob

The D009 mount is what I'm using, for the large Husky, my 385xp for example. I think its the same used on other popular Huskys also, like 372, 390, 395..etc. From what I gather, that mount is 9mm. The Poulan is 8mm, I believe. The spring spacers that I use, Mark sent them to me. They make for a tight fit. Might have to use a file on the slot lightly to get them on there. The other mounts you speak of, I think might be 9.5mm. Either should work.


Gregg,

 

[redunshee]

The D009 mount is what I'm using, for the large Husky, my 385xp for example. I think its the same used on other popular Huskys also, like 372, 390, 395..etc. From what I gather, that mount is 9mm. The Poulan is 8mm, I believe. The spring spacers that I use, Mark sent them to me. They make for a tight fit. Might have to use a file on the slot lightly to get them on there. The other mounts you speak of, I think might be 9.5mm. Either should work.


Gregg,

Thanks Gregg. I would imagine a bushing would work if I could find the correct size to cover the 1 mm dfifferance . Guess the ID would have to be 8 mm and the OD 9 mm.
Bob

 

[stubnail67]

my new old saw!!!

hello all im new to the forum been reading your poulan thread for a week or so.... im on page 243 so i will be current soon ive owned one poulan older on then this one i got it today for 20 bucks compresion seems ok just pullin on it no test etc. it does not have spark i switched out plugs etc no air filter the carb looks newer but the fuel lines look old im not a mechanic but only out 20 bucks to learn i searched under no spark for this model it just says model 25 i think it just has a manual oiler could ya all point me in the right direction? thanks paul!

 

[rms61moparman]

That is one of the older models with the red switch.
That makes it a points model and your trouble probably lies with the points or condenser.
First, try cleaning the points with a point file or your wife/girlfriends emery board.
That will probably restore your spark.
If it doesn't the condenser is the next place to look.
Be sure to set your air gap correctly when you put it back together.


Mike

 

[stubnail67]

cool

cool deal bud thanks for the super fast reply i will give it a try after i go back and look at some pics of them apart thonk i need to build a bench instead of workin on it out in the yardon plywood over mulch easy way to lose parts thanks for the tip im still gonna look and seeif i can find pics of someone doing what your talking about and re setting with a credit card i saw that someplacein the thread way back! again thanks!