No face Coos Bay

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twochains said:
I like it Ron! :msp_thumbup:
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I almost added "with a death wish" to the end of the warning but thought some might think it a slam on Cfaller or the method which wasn't my intent. You can't keep yahoos from trying something that a pro does but I certainly appreciate the reluctance to discuss methods publicly. I don't even know what technique is called the "Kiss of Death". It sounds way beyond my skill level which should not make any difference when it comes to pros discussing it since I'm just a nosy trespasser here. Too bad there isn't a filter that would keep non-pros (myself included) out. Nevertheless I hope you guys keep posting and discussing because I learn something constantly which will make me safer and more proficient. I'm glad you guys put up with me as these types of threads divert my attention from other stresses of life. I bet I spent a good two hours thinking about this cut alone since it was first posted in the oak tree thread. Ron
 
TC why don't you put a face in with that KOD cut? Just curious, trying to save time or what
I do the same method, using a face. Which coincidently is the gol method
 
Also, please realize that some of us have common sense and can read about things, but know we don't want to push our luck but we also have run into a few instances of using something we learned on here, and it worked. If you've been on this site long enough, you learn who gives good advice and who does not.
 
This might be a get a few comments slightly off subject but does have a bearing.....I think ......


The hinge.......well it might help some to think on it like the hinge on a gate or door .....it allows forward and backward motion .......but negates lateral movement ie side to side thereby it allows the door/gate to move in the intended plane ........well imo the hinge wood does the same job ......ok ya don't want it going backward (that what wedges are for, well one of the things lol) and ya don't want it going sideways either ya want it to commit to the face thereby the intended lay.....
 
treeslayer2003 said:
Ron, I don't think it you and Jon and guys like you that worry us so bad. I have seen 12 or more guests at one time, they cannot even ask ?????. but we cannot protect everyone and this is the logging n forestry forum so..... now what happened to that white oak guy? that gets me, I guess we'll never know.
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TS, I suspect I'm not the typical trespasser; if Bob (or most any of you) told me to take a hike, I would though I would likely still read along. I now keep relatively quite in the CS forum out of a concern probably similar to yours here. Nevertheless, I agree with Bob on the open forum and would encourage you folks to continue posting and discussing. Just observing pros banter back and forth should be enough for the world to know its dangerous out there and there should be a reason behind every step you take. Your profession is not very forgiving and there is no "redo" button. I get that. Some don't. I admire the folks that venture forth here with their questions despite the beating that may ensue.

FWIW, AS is refreshing to me compared to the only other forum (nothing to do with trees or saws) that I follow. Here most questions no matter how many times they have been asked before are answered. The typical answer on "my" other forum is "Use the search function, you idiot!" Like all forums, answers here aren't always explained or clear and get off track from time to time, but that's life.

As to the white oak guy, I suspect he got lost in the responses or intimidated by them or both.

Ron
 
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It's pretty calm over here in this section. The chainsaw section is always a pissing match going on over nothing.:beer:
 
Bob, you hit the nail on the head as usual. i'm gonna keep posting as I hope everyone does. it is scary sometimes if you think about the expieriance level of some of the guests, but hey we all started out not knowing. and yea, Ron you are one of us, i'd wonder if I made ya mad if ya left.
 
Bob, that is an undeserved compliment but thanks. I still remember your hesitancy to answer my question long ago about why the feller in a posted video kept revving his saw. I knew you were sizing up my sincerity when you responded. I knew then that you were my kind of guy and I should listen very carefully when you speak. Ron
 
Lot of times people looking for help, overlook searching for like threads made in the past.
Some really good, to the point discussions back there. Most aren't too active now, but posts are there to read without having to join anything extra group stuff. If that had been group stuff, like Bob said, it might not have happened.

Some of the "how should this done" stuff, people are looking for quick, single. easy answer. Not talking about home owner stuff here. Old threads from say 2009 earlier had less need it now stuff and more try this. Like the block face and snipe thread i think from Burvol. Different wood, lean, ground had adjustments. Just rambling.

Why would Loctite Blue fail on clean, dry threads, no heat, no weird solvents. 4 bolts. 1/4 20 saginaw column ?? Red stuff is out, might as well mig it.
 
lfnh said:
Lot of times people looking for help, overlook searching for like threads made in the past.
Some really good, to the point discussions back there. Most aren't too active now, but posts are there to read without having to join anything extra group stuff. If that had been group stuff, like Bob said, it might not have happened.

Some of the "how should this done" stuff, people are looking for quick, single. easy answer. Not talking about home owner stuff here. Old threads from say 2009 earlier had less need it now stuff and more try this. Like the block face and snipe thread i think from Burvol. Different wood, lean, ground had adjustments. Just rambling.

Why would Loctite Blue fail on clean, dry threads, no heat, no weird solvents. 4 bolts. 1/4 20 saginaw column ?? Red stuff is out, might as well mig it.
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mebbe they not clean as ya thought? i'd use red on it. I always clean threads with carb or brake cleaner n blow out with compressed air. mebbe the tube was old? i'v had back luck with off brands.
 
Appreciate the ideas.
Thankfully, didn't make this problem. if it were mine i'd whack the ingrown toe.
Just some things never want to see again, but never say never. know what i mean:laugh:
 
I really like the coos bay it's one of the best cuts around for small leaners, I still prefer to plunge cut on larger trees though, but it is a very handy tool to have in your bag
 
A thing that has been so-far overlooked in this discussion is that in the "no-face Coos" cut, there is still hinge wood -- it is just allowed to tear down into the stump. This is not a "spiral-cut ham" cut at all. It's designed to do one thing and one thing only -- put a hard head leaner on the ground safely without barber-chairing. This is a very specialized cut which would be out of place in any other circumstance. It is a trick for the bag. I've used the "V" Coos plenty, the "T" Coos a couple of times... but I have not used the "no-face" yet. Now I've seen pictures, and have a reasonable expectation of what happens and why.

This is the sort of discussion I probably like best on this board. Lots of voices of experience offering solid precautions, lots of respectful back-and-forth, lots of productive discussion. I agree with the consensus: Groups are fun, if you want to be exclusive, but an open forum is more generally useful to the Greater Good.
 
madhatte said:
A thing that has been so-far overlooked in this discussion is that in the "no-face Coos" cut, there is still hinge wood -- it is just allowed to tear down into the stump. This is not a "spiral-cut ham" cut at all. It's designed to do one thing and one thing only -- put a hard head leaner on the ground safely without barber-chairing. This is a very specialized cut which would be out of place in any other circumstance. It is a trick for the bag. I've used the "V" Coos plenty, the "T" Coos a couple of times... but I have not used the "no-face" yet. Now I've seen pictures, and have a reasonable expectation of what happens and why.

This is the sort of discussion I probably like best on this board. Lots of voices of experience offering solid precautions, lots of respectful back-and-forth, lots of productive discussion. I agree with the consensus: Groups are fun, if you want to be exclusive, but an open forum is more generally useful to the Greater Good.
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Thanks! The other thing this cut will do is eliminate two cuts of the regular coos bay, the under-cut. This will lead to less exposure time under a hazard tree. :msp_thumbup: One of the times I wouldn't us it is falling a leaner up the hill.
 

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