I agree that children should be taught to safely handle and respect firearms. I don’t know that I’d agree with you about leaving firearms laying about. There is a difference between guns and framing nailers. I also believe that is your decision but I believe that if someone gets injured or killed with your firearms then it is on you and there should be consequences. Not sure what your McVay reference has to do with anything.
Thank goodness for Wyo.
Alec Baldwin said the gun did it and its not his fault. My gun my fault? Not so sure on that one. And for the McVeigh reference it didn't mean anything to us kids but now a days it would be some bs tiktok challenge. No one in the community thought it was cool but we grew up before the internet and online gaming and social media.
You want to tell me leaving your guns around is the way to go? Great. But if one of your childrens friends gets ahold of one and accidentally or intentionally shoots someone, who’s fault is it? Did Baldwin murder someone? No but by letting functioning firearms on the set with live ammo and then allowing people to handle guns in unsafe manner where gun safety rules will intentionally be broken then I do believe he is in some regards criminally responsible. I love nothing better than letting the grand kids handle and learn all about my guns. Love taking them target shooting. If they want to handle one of the guns they only have to ask. If they do get hold of one they do know what they can do and how they can safely handle them. I don’t leave my guns laying around. Another point of responsibility you probably won’t agree with, “hurting accidents”. I don’t believe in them. I’ve been hunting for over forty years. You go out in the woods and “accidentally” shot another person, on you. Know your target. Know the backstop. Can’t accept the responsibility, don’t go in the woods and shoot things.
My parents met at an ammo factory in 1966. Firearms have been a part of my life since before I could walk or talk. I don't have any friends that aren't shooters- notice I didn't use the generic term "gun owners". When did gun safes become common? Because I can tell you, I lived half my life among serious shooters before I met someone that owned one. At best there was a wood cabinet with a glass front and a $2 lock. Guns were stored in racks, in closets, under beds, in dresser drawers or if you had a hardcore gun crank, in the "gun room"- ie a spare bedroom/den. My best buddy growing up, his dad was a serious gun crank- guy had probably 250 guns, back in the 80's...they were mostly military rifles from the World Wars. There were at least three registered machine guns in there as I recall....They sat in the "parlor" on wooden revolving racks- row after row of them.
I was in Lakewood with a home on the side of Green Mountain. I was a staff physician at what was then Lutheran Medical Center in Wheat Ridge in the Denver metro area. We had fire restrictions at times due to changes in Denver air quality, but the restrictions were not that bad at the time. I came back south to care for my very elderly father, not for political issues. My comments were based on observations over my years there and changes since then.
They use those in hospitals, nurses ID badges and readers above patient doors, in the halls, at the nursing station, at the pyxis station, etc. etc. That's to track the nurses to make sure they are doing their jobs and their locations. Same thing with sensors in patient's beds so if they get out of bed it alerts the staff to check on them so they don't fall and sue. Those are not injected. But if you want a conspiracy theory read about Bio nanotechnology.
I don’t see where we disagree on much except your reluctance to take responsibility for what happens with your firearms. We did lots of things forty or fifty years ago that were , in retrospect not to bright. So be it. You are confident that your kids won’t do something stupid with your guns and neither will their friends, great. So what’s the problem with accepting responsibility for the consequences of your decisions? I’m all about choice and responsibility. Make your choice. Accept responsibility. Back to wood burning, people want to run their OWB on garbage to the point whole neighborhoods are blanketed in smoke and then wonder why others in the community push back. Choice, accept consequences. Not advocating against guns, heating with wood or anything else. I have guns, heat with wood. I hate government overreach.
Wish my parents worked in an ammo factory now. Especially someplace making rimfire. Haven’t figured how to roll my own 22lr yet.
I think the best reason for keeping guns locked up is to keep thieves from allowing those guns to get into the hands of career criminals where chances are good that they will be used to rob and kill people. I have heard it said that 80% of guns used in crimes are stolen.
And under the skin of animals to track their whereabouts and who they belong to.
I have most of mine locked up. But when it comes to thieves breaking into my house at night the locked up gun in the basement does me no good when I'm in bed. And in NY getting a pistol permit is tough especially if you made a few poor choices as a teenager. The other reason I have a gun around is to control predators. There was a period where several raccoons were wondering around during the day and not afraid of people or my kids. One wondered into my garage. I get it its a gun but the ones I have registered with the state because they are "assault weapons" are locked up and loaded. You don't dare have an assault weapon stolen in this state you probably will end up in jail.
