Pacific Northwest GTG June 10th-12th

[Farley9n]

Forget All This McCulloch Stuff!

I just put two videos of my little WildThing x on YouTube! Check them out! Runs good but not as fast as I would like!......Bob

 

[Farley9n]

Aaron!

Bring your"rebuilder" 257, I have a couple of those you NEED to try out!!!..........:msp_biggrin:......Bob

 

[Farley9n]

Gear Drive Alley!

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Added some Maple "Big Uglies" to the mix today. We could have diner while one of the gear drives eats a cookie!.......Bob

 

[Eccentric]

I am pretty sure the same spike bar that fits the big gear drive saws fits the 650/660 gear drives, just mounts in a different place, On the other big gear drives it mounts to the front of the gear box, on the 650/660 it mounts to the front of the fuel tank.


Mark

That's good to hear. Makes the search easier, with much more possible donors out there. Thanks for the info Mark.

It shouldn't be too hard to come up with a muffler for a 790. I don't know why McCulloch made the SP-125 mufflers different from every other engine they had, even the CP-125.

The good thing about it though is that all the kart mufflers will fit the 790/795/890/895s and all of those earlier saws.

Thanks for the info Jacob. I do have a muffler for that saw, but it's kinda beat, and has been brazed back together. I was coveting the NOS looking can in Ric's pic. Will the Kart mufflers fit within the hinged 'hood' at the back of these saws without modification? The hood covers most of the stock muffler...

Bring your"rebuilder" 257, I have a couple of those you NEED to try out!!!..........:msp_biggrin:......Bob

Cool! Looking forward to playing with the beasts in your collection. I don't have plans to rebuild the saw myself, but may be inspired after running some of your creations. The hottest saws of this series that I've ran have been stock 262XP's. I have enough trouble finding the $$$ and time to get parts and rebuild my old beasts...

If I get it from the guy, I'll most likely just trade it away as I'm not into "modern" saws. I don't know much about it yet, other than the rope's pulled all the way out, I'm told "it don't run anymore", and it most likely needs a new P/C. The fellow that has it now doesn't know JACK about saws...:msp_wink:

Gear Drive Alley..

Added some Maple "Big Uglies" to the mix today. We could have diner while one of the gear drives eats a cookie!.......Bob[/QUOTE]

Oh man that looks like fun. Jenn said something about some big wood being delivered at your place (she's on FB while I'm not). It went to the back of my mind until I saw these pics...:clap:

 

[Eccentric]

Let me try this one more time..

I received these a while back and haven't done much with them yet, son Jeff sporting his mustache at the time.

Mark

That's a Mighty McMustache that your son Jeff was sporting.

 

[Jacob J.]

Thanks for the info Jacob. I do have a muffler for that saw, but it's kinda beat, and has been brazed back together. I was coveting the NOS looking can in Ric's pic. Will the Kart mufflers fit within the hinged 'hood' at the back of these saws without modification? The hood covers most of the stock muffler.

It depends on which one you get. Reed Engineering made a low-profile cast aluminum kart muffler which I think would easily fit under any of the saw covers. It blows out the back though so a person would have to re-direct the flow. There were two GEM mufflers that were pretty narrow and a later GEM box-style muffler that is much bigger.

 

[heimannm]

I picked up a couple of NOS McCulloch mufflers from Bob Johnson recently, original number was 68010 (rectangular), new number is 68240 (round). These are the really nice three piece round ones with the clamp to hold the assembly together. They are not cheap ($60 each) but new in the package, I think I can find good homes for them.

Mark

 

[RandyMac]

So, I'm guessin' that the puck with the clamp will work on a 790, or will it match the ports?

 

[heimannm]

Since the old part number went to the new one, I am sure they will work 1 for 1. Certainly the mounting holes line up and the height/step is correct. My only concern was the change in the shape but most people won't notice unless you open the cover over the muffler.

The 795's and Super 797 came with the round one as standard equipment. The 740, 790, and 797 had the one piece (welded assembly) rectangular mufflers according to my IPL's and the saws that I have and have seen.

Mark

 

[RandyMac]

I forget which 790 had the better muffler, Aaron can use that one or a round one if he wants. I have all I need, there are leftovers. I do want a nice chromed one, like the 1-50 has.

 

[8433jeff]

Wishing, just wishing.

 

[Eccentric]

I picked up a couple of NOS McCulloch mufflers from Bob Johnson recently, original number was 68010 (rectangular), new number is 68240 (round). These are the really nice three piece round ones with the clamp to hold the assembly together. They are not cheap ($60 each) but new in the package, I think I can find good homes for them.

Mark

More great info. Thanks Mark. I thought the super series engines couldn't use the mufflers from the other engines (250, etc). I'm glad to have been mistaken!

So, I'm guessin' that the puck with the clamp will work on a 790, or will it match the ports?

I'm glad that it turns out we can use them. That's my favorite style of McMuffler (clamp style HD puck that is).

Since the old part number went to the new one, I am sure they will work 1 for 1. Certainly the mounting holes line up and the height/step is correct. My only concern was the change in the shape but most people won't notice unless you open the cover over the muffler.

The 795's and Super 797 came with the round one as standard equipment. The 740, 790, and 797 had the one piece (welded assembly) rectangular mufflers according to my IPL's and the saws that I have and have seen.

Mark

I forget which 790 had the better muffler, Aaron can use that one or a round one if he wants. I have all I need, there are leftovers. I do want a nice chromed one, like the 1-50 has.

Your 790 has the better muffler Randy. That's very generous of you. I'll bet somebody at the GTG (maybe someone who's driving a big bus) will have a chromed McMuffler for you.

Wishing, just wishing.

Wishing you could come to the GTG Jeff? That would be fantastic if you could make it out here. If you're wishing you could have some old McCulloch iron, then we can take care of that too. You sir may have a decission to make. Do you want a McCulloch 200 or a Homelite C5 (or both)? PM me with your thoughts...

 

[heimannm]

The mufflers big saws like the 1-70/80 and 700/800 Series all have the same bolt pattern, three screws attaching the muffler.

Actually the smaller saws (200/300 etc.) have the same two hole pattern over the exhaust port, but the bigger saws have the third bolt further towards the top of the cylinder.

I don't have any really good photo's showing the exhaust side without the muffler, but I think you get the drift from these two - 840 project in works.

Mark

 

[Eccentric]

Thanks Mark. Could a 'two bolt' puck type muffler from a 200/250/300/etc be used on a super series engine without issue? Is the stack height (distance from the mounting flange to the can) the same for both types? If so, a hole could be drilled through the can for the third bolt on a super series engine methinks...

 

[Farley9n]

Spent Part

Of the day moving logs & seting them up for the "Cookie Fest"! Cleaned up the Redwood camp site ( Mac Camp!) and got a nice note back from Grand Dog! Bailey's will again be sending us a gift pack! They are GREAT people!!!
It's getting closer & I'm getting more excited!!!.....Bob

 

[Ambull]

Thanks Mark. Could a 'two bolt' puck type muffler from a 200/250/300/etc be used on a super series engine without issue? Is the stack height (distance from the mounting flange to the can) the same for both types? If so, a hole could be drilled through the can for the third bolt on a super series engine methinks...

My 125/101B has a GEM kart muffler attached to it, and it was originally designed to just mount with the two bolts. The original owner drilled a hole and added the third bolt. It is really thick, probably weighs more than a Homelite muffler, lol. Has a really great sound to it.

 

[Eccentric]

My 125/101B has a GEM kart muffler attached to it, and it was originally designed to just mount with the two bolts. The original owner drilled a hole and added the third bolt. It is really thick, probably weighs more than a Homelite muffler, lol. Has a really great sound to it.

Sounds cool. Mind posting a pic of it on the saw?

 

[heimannm]

Aaron, I am pretty sure the mufflers will all swap back and forth on the horizontal saws, not sure if the older ones like the 3-25/47/77 etc. are the same.

I am pretty sure the only difference is 3 vs 2 attaching screws until you get to the SP models, it seems to me they are altogether different.

Mark

 

[Ambull]

Sounds cool. Mind posting a pic of it on the saw?

I took some pics today. I will put the muffler here, and the rest on the Mac thread.

If you notice there is a screw between the G and the E on the GEM muffler. There was some trimming done to the shroud to get it to fit.

Sorry but I won't be bringing this saw to Oregon with me.

 

[Eccentric]

Aaron, I am pretty sure the mufflers will all swap back and forth on the horizontal saws, not sure if the older ones like the 3-25/47/77 etc. are the same.

I am pretty sure the only difference is 3 vs 2 attaching screws until you get to the SP models, it seems to me they are altogether different.

Mark

Thanks Mark. That sure is a funky bolt pattern for the SP125. Wonder why McCulloch did that...

Are you going to make it to the GTG Mark? Just three weeks to go now. Once you've made your final decission, please let me know if I should bring up those two saws for Jeff.

I took some pics today. I will put the muffler here, and the rest on the Mac thread.

If you notice there is a screw between the G and the E on the GEM muffler. There was some trimming done to the shroud to get it to fit.

Sorry but I won't be bringing this saw to Oregon with me.

Bet that sounds awesome. Thanks for the pics. Does that muffler dump out the bottom? Looks like I'd have to cut away quite a bit of the shroud on my 790 to make one of those work. Probably won't do that to that saw. Why aren't you taking that saw to Oregon? Conserving space in the vehicle? I can relate...