I am very interested in 620 top cover & [1] black p series top/af cover in same pic...
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seen you mention oem bars... am lookin for period correct for ra & 600 series
Wagnerwerks
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Shoot me a pm.. No business in the forum or we may get slapped. 
I think I have a bar you may be interested in.
I think I have a bar you may be interested in.
Wagnerwerks
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Is there any value in old retrofit carb kits? They are the ones that were replaced. There are a pile there.
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The old saw appears to be a MAC 33 or 35.
Wagnerwerks
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also interested in the black/yellow durarail & mac bars...
l would be interested in a couple of Spurs if you got for a 5 or 6 cube P- series and Air filters for same saws.
Thanks
Does anyone happen to have a filter base for the open element (K&N type) filter for a P60? I'm not sure this is the spot to post, but I'll try the swap meet thread also. Thanks!
Oh, I finally got my hands on this P45 my brother picked up for me, and it looks to be in good condition. It's got a 32" bar, was told it was 36", and it looks like the outer spike is homemade, it's attached with the nuts that hold clutch cover on.
It's a nice saw. It runs, although the carb needs adjusted, and the chain is toast.
Oh, I finally got my hands on this P45 my brother picked up for me, and it looks to be in good condition. It's got a 32" bar, was told it was 36", and it looks like the outer spike is homemade, it's attached with the nuts that hold clutch cover on.
It's a nice saw. It runs, although the carb needs adjusted, and the chain is toast.
Wagnerwerks
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That should work on all saws P20-P28
Wagnerwerks
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I figured you would know. Thanks!
leeadamaa
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Hey Guys,
How would I go about pulling the clutch and flywheel off of a Pioneer 1074 I need to get the crank case split in half so I can repaint it thanks
How would I go about pulling the clutch and flywheel off of a Pioneer 1074 I need to get the crank case split in half so I can repaint it thanks
I wouldn't split just to paint... a lot of older pioneers were painted when together... only saw I repainted, I had jug/carb, top & both side covers off. mask the fw & clutch... 
btw, clutch is supposed to be & is painted on the 650...
btw, clutch is supposed to be & is painted on the 650...
leeadamaa
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Im currently in the midst of restoring an old pioneer 1074 and the fuel filter and fuel line in the gas tank have been pretty much destroyed by the previous owner not emptying the gas tank so ive purchased a new STIHL fuel filter and some new fuel line but im having some trouble finding where the fuel line attaches to in the tank to draw fuel out to the carb any help would be greatly appreciated
I can't find an IPL for that model but did you look in the box ahead of the carb box to see if there's a removable fuel line fitting in there?
It should either be in there or it may run from the carb box along the right side of the saw to the tank.
Just guessing. Rocketnorton has a 1074 (see the post above yours). Maybe he can help.
leeadamaa
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Hey man thanks for the help it was attached to a fuel fitting coming out of the crank case to the carb you saved me hours of head scratching frustration. the saw is coming back together slowly but im very exited to get it running again
Wagnerwerks
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Hi all.
I’m new here. Just thought I would drop in with some questions on my Pioneer 1073.
I got the saw from my dad some time ago. He bought it brand new, I don’t know what year, but it’s been around. I pull it out a couple times a year to trim some branches, take a small tree down, or cut up some brush. It’s been working pretty good but I really don’t do anything to it at all, and feel like I should. I like properly taking care of tools but for me this is one of those that’s out of sight so much of the time it doesn’t get any attention.
On to a bunch of questions. Like I said, it’s running, but since I don’t use it all that much and never had it when new I don’t know if it could be running even better with some TLC. Looking for general maintenance suggestions.
- Most importantly, does anyone have a scan of a parts or maintenance manual or know where I can get one?
- Should I either replace or sand the points? Any reason to replace the condenser? Is it possible to adjust the points?
- My gas cap is really, really tight. I have to use a plier to install and remove it. I’m wondering if it has swelled up a little due to the “better” (right) gas we’re getting these days. Where do I find a replacement?
- Right now the saw pulls a little bit. Not sure if that’s the right term or not. I have to cut somewhat of an arc to keep it cutting. If I try to just cut straight through, it just won’t cut but doesn’t seem to really bind and slow down either. I’m guessing a new chain and probably a bar due to its age/use would help that.
- Any recommendations on a good chain/bar combo. I believe I’ve got a 16” bar right now. Seems to be sufficient for everything I do.
Any suggested places to order parts from? I've called some local shops in the past asking about the gas cap and it was like they had never heard of Pioneer before. No luck locally unfortunately.
Now on to the choice of a future saw. The pioneer is lacking some of the safety features I wouldn’t mind having, especially if/when I get my kids started on helping and using a saw. The specs on the Pioneer are 51.4CC, the hp is not rated, and the weight is 9lb 10oz for the powerhead only. I was looking at the Stihl MS251 C-BE. It’s specs are 45.6cc, 2.95hp, and 11.9lb powerhead weight. Without knowing how many hp the Pioneer is, it’s hard to determine how it compares to newer saws. Any thoughts or recommendations on saws of similar size/weight to look at. I'm also a Husqvarna fan as well but don't know much about their, or Stihl for that matter, lineup. The new Husqvarna 450 looks pretty nice.....
Thank you for any help!
I’m new here. Just thought I would drop in with some questions on my Pioneer 1073.
I got the saw from my dad some time ago. He bought it brand new, I don’t know what year, but it’s been around. I pull it out a couple times a year to trim some branches, take a small tree down, or cut up some brush. It’s been working pretty good but I really don’t do anything to it at all, and feel like I should. I like properly taking care of tools but for me this is one of those that’s out of sight so much of the time it doesn’t get any attention.
On to a bunch of questions. Like I said, it’s running, but since I don’t use it all that much and never had it when new I don’t know if it could be running even better with some TLC. Looking for general maintenance suggestions.
- Most importantly, does anyone have a scan of a parts or maintenance manual or know where I can get one?
- Should I either replace or sand the points? Any reason to replace the condenser? Is it possible to adjust the points?
- My gas cap is really, really tight. I have to use a plier to install and remove it. I’m wondering if it has swelled up a little due to the “better” (right) gas we’re getting these days. Where do I find a replacement?
- Right now the saw pulls a little bit. Not sure if that’s the right term or not. I have to cut somewhat of an arc to keep it cutting. If I try to just cut straight through, it just won’t cut but doesn’t seem to really bind and slow down either. I’m guessing a new chain and probably a bar due to its age/use would help that.
- Any recommendations on a good chain/bar combo. I believe I’ve got a 16” bar right now. Seems to be sufficient for everything I do.
- From the info I found, I need a 3/8” pitch.
- If I choose to purchase both a new chain and bar I can pick the gauge, correct?
- Why choose one gauge over another?
- Do the roller tip bars make a noticeable difference or why choose one? Reduced friction seems like a good idea.
Any suggested places to order parts from? I've called some local shops in the past asking about the gas cap and it was like they had never heard of Pioneer before. No luck locally unfortunately.
Now on to the choice of a future saw. The pioneer is lacking some of the safety features I wouldn’t mind having, especially if/when I get my kids started on helping and using a saw. The specs on the Pioneer are 51.4CC, the hp is not rated, and the weight is 9lb 10oz for the powerhead only. I was looking at the Stihl MS251 C-BE. It’s specs are 45.6cc, 2.95hp, and 11.9lb powerhead weight. Without knowing how many hp the Pioneer is, it’s hard to determine how it compares to newer saws. Any thoughts or recommendations on saws of similar size/weight to look at. I'm also a Husqvarna fan as well but don't know much about their, or Stihl for that matter, lineup. The new Husqvarna 450 looks pretty nice.....
Thank you for any help!
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