Thx Tim, that Saw was a basket case a couple years ago Jeff dropped it off to me to use for parts . As you can see l got carried away.
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Thx Tim, that Saw was a basket case a couple years ago Jeff dropped it off to me to use for parts . As you can see l got carried away.
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Yeah, if you do manage to find the plastic reed I would be grateful to have it. failing that i'll make on. Haven't found the material stock yet. Amazon has 1/8" stock but its a bit thick. if all else fails I will go that route. I also found a spring that more closely matches the original.
Your HM looks good! I made a bunch more progress on the weekend, cleaning up the fasteners and rebuilding the carb.
As for the head gaskets, I've honestly always just retorqued the head back on and not had an issue, yes I know its definitely not correct, but no leaks yet. This one I might try the torch trick.
Have you considered finding a Donar saw , DA, HC and removed the reed from the reed plate from one of those saws.
l only have new reed assy's here and not yet sure whether l want to seperate with them yet.
Torn down p-26 cylinder with Husqvarna 50 for comparison. Note the decompression valve with the disc for engaging with the easy arc system. Large transfers, but smallish exhaust port.
Really beefy crank, makes up a lot of the 11.5 lbs dry weight.
Really beefy crank, makes up a lot of the 11.5 lbs dry weight.
hi all, I am officially obsessed with this thread I love my pioneers.
Does anyone have a solution for changing a points coil over to electronic on a P21?
I've gone through 2 coils and it's my favorite saw.. I'd like to get it running again without having to deal with the points and condenser.
thanks!!
Does anyone have a solution for changing a points coil over to electronic on a P21?
I've gone through 2 coils and it's my favorite saw.. I'd like to get it running again without having to deal with the points and condenser.
thanks!!
l may be able to help you with a new Oem coil if you chose to install one.
Here is a option for you to replace the points and condenser on saw. You should be able to find them online if decde to go that way.
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thanks Beavers.
seems like a good option if I can find.. coil is probably still good as the second I installed was new in box..
I have yet to check the condenser on the saw but it's original. what are the odds that it's worn out?
Condenser on a saw that old is a very likely culprit but the points contacts must be thoroughly clean and polished plus dry to work correctly. Polishing points contacts has gotten more saws and other machines running for me over the years.
hey thanks buddy. I have run the heck out of this saw cutting firewood for years, probably quite likely some gunk has creeped into the points. I see you on here a lot, you're very knowledgeable and give great advice.
cheers!!
lf you have a way of checking your condenser capacity ,the microfarads reading spec range is .16 -.22
lf you need new points Pm me.
lf you need new points Pm me.
Update Pics here on my HM project. Got my fuel system done. Only year and model the HP carb was availiable, its not my favorite carb. l still need to get a metering diaphram and gasket from Joe S before it s complete. l still need to diagnose & test the coil output and condenser.
This is as far as l got for now .
This is as far as l got for now .
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Nice looking saw Brian,i'm impressed with the paint job.is the paint available in spray cans?I have the HC model which i'm trying to bring back to life but is lacking in the spark department.(very weak). think it's a condenser problem but haven't had any luck tracking one down.Any ideas?
Thx. The paint was custom mixed and sprayed on. The early iels paint seems to be a dark mustard like colour .
l found a HC condenser here and tested the condenser for you and results are poor. it was over capacity , therefore faulty.
l tested the condenser on my HM saw and it was also faulty so l need to replace it as well. Scale #4 was used.
Heres a Pic
A good condenser is on my shopping list now to.
The condenser off a P40 is of the same dimensions and could possibly work to some degree . l maybe if all else fails give it a go.
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Made a little more progress. Still waiting on lots of small pieces, but they'll arrive in the next week or 2.
I envy the patience and dedication of you guys. A labor of love and skill to be truly appreciated.
I picked up a few saws today from a guy in Quebec who buys estates. I have picked up some from him before.This time he had a few Pioneers ,Homelites and one mac. I took two 
Pioneers, a 600 in very good shape but missing foot and another holiday 11. He also threw in a Homelite. It was red,green and blue. I hae not checked it out yet. He also had another 600 not as good shape as the one I took and a nice 650 but I already have one. He had five more he said he could show me but I passed bacause my emergency funds in back of my wallet are getting low. These are the pictures he mailed me better ones tomorrow. Just got home. Rained all day. Took the saws from car. Top cover on 600 saw seems loose Started to do a thorough check and cleanup and found out the saw is a 610 with a 600 cover on top. Will try to find the difference between the two.
Pioneers, a 600 in very good shape but missing foot and another holiday 11. He also threw in a Homelite. It was red,green and blue. I hae not checked it out yet. He also had another 600 not as good shape as the one I took and a nice 650 but I already have one. He had five more he said he could show me but I passed bacause my emergency funds in back of my wallet are getting low. These are the pictures he mailed me better ones tomorrow. Just got home. Rained all day. Took the saws from car. Top cover on 600 saw seems loose Started to do a thorough check and cleanup and found out the saw is a 610 with a 600 cover on top. Will try to find the difference between the two.
Possibly the rubber bumpers on top of the airshield have shrunken, the two covers should be virtually the same.
Looking at the pics in your post the yellow Pioneer actually does have a 610 cover on it, the Pioneer 600 cover would have a solid green tree logo, on the 610 the tree is just outlined around the edges like the one in your pic. The castings are the same so the covers fit either saw, same catch and latch fitments. The covers change for the next model, the 620 and remain the same for the 620S and 650 models, the paint color changes by model but the castings are the same fitments where the latch of the 600- 610 was replaced with a bolt at the rear of the cover. The tree logo also changed in size between the 620 and 650 saws.
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