Are you just that green around here, or are you getting at something? I am confused... seems to me like have been around long enough to know the answer to your question, so I guess mine is: what's your point?
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Are you just that green around here, or are you getting at something? I am confused... seems to me like have been around long enough to know the answer to your question, so I guess mine is: what's your point?
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Skim off the cream ...
See that's how to thrive and succeed in an area served by tree services like Jeff runs. The bucket queens don't know what to do if they can't get their equipment in there, so they bid high or don't bid at all on jobs that would require some old school skills.
See that's how to thrive and succeed in an area served by tree services like Jeff runs. The bucket queens don't know what to do if they can't get their equipment in there, so they bid high or don't bid at all on jobs that would require some old school skills.
sgreanbeans
Treeaculterologist
BAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, ignorance, must truly...........be bliss.
sgreanbeans
Treeaculterologist
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Me and bobby on New Years Eve. Those are real Samurai swords that were giving to me by the emperor of Japan after I wooped him in a ping pong tournament. The rifle is my Barret 50 cal that Carlos Hathcock gave to me when working with him at the CIA. We were doing N.T.N.D. (night time ninja drills)
Me and bobby on New Years Eve. Those are real Samurai swords that were giving to me by the emperor of Japan after I wooped him in a ping pong tournament. The rifle is my Barret 50 cal that Carlos Hathcock gave to me when working with him at the CIA. We were doing N.T.N.D. (night time ninja drills)
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TreeAce
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Or, you could also say, the "big companies" have better things to do. More profitable things. Although there is some (alittle) truth to what you say,kinda. Near me I know of two Mid sized companies who have "climbers" who really arnt in my book. These companies do 90% takedowns with a crane. The 'climbers" just ride up or cut from a bucket. Or both, one man chokes the piece to be cut and comes down and another guy cuts it from a bucket. These guys do very little rigging and suck at it when they do. So that leaves 5 or 6 companies ( Near me, off the top of my head) with plenty of equipment and the know how to go old school if need be.
Kottonwood
ArboristSite Operative
Rig big.....
With proper rigging techniques there is no way in hell that there is an 80ft pine in the world that takes three days to remove. If it is a tough drag hire some cheap groundies for the day. Prior to having my mini skid and grapple along with a sizable wood chipper (which makes all the difference) I would take up to five or six groundies to a big backyard removal, set it up so everyone has one job. Rope man/crew leader, stackers/buckers, draggers, and chipper operator. Eat your lunch in the tree and keep going until that sucker is on the ground. Keep the groundies moving all day. 1900 for three days work..... laughable, there is no profit there..... I would do 5 guys for a day at 1900.... it is on the low side though, gotta be a job with a real low damage risk. At 1900 you could most likely afford to come back a second day with a cheap guy or by yourself to buck and haul the last of the wood as well as do final rake up, no way in hell I would be coming back for any more than that..... and please tell me you are not including the stump for that price
I love big backyard removals with small or no drop zones, especially ones with long horizontal limbs. Rig everything in the exact largest piece you can. Rig multiple smaller limbs together and leave your 200t in the truck. Also..... get some equipment that fits through gates...... like a log cart
Where are the pics of the tree? I would love to see this three day behemoth.
Kottonwood
ArboristSite Operative
and ps.....
Just because the customer scoffs at your 2000 dollar bid doesn't mean you didn't come in a grand under the next cheapest guy. Some people are gonna try to get a better deal no matter what. I had a customer try to talk me down for over a month on a couple big removals, I ended up giving him 100 off in exchange for leaving some wood and mulch..... turns out the uninsured guy in town had a bid 800 over mine.
Just because the customer scoffs at your 2000 dollar bid doesn't mean you didn't come in a grand under the next cheapest guy. Some people are gonna try to get a better deal no matter what. I had a customer try to talk me down for over a month on a couple big removals, I ended up giving him 100 off in exchange for leaving some wood and mulch..... turns out the uninsured guy in town had a bid 800 over mine.
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mattfr12
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No the question is as simple as you read it. Unlike you nothing in my posts have ill intent. From the pictures he had it looked like he either owned or had a good job with them.
Can you add me to your ignore list I tried adding you but still seem to see your garbage.
ForTheArborist
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Yup, get the cheap crew out there for a day. .....no stump removal included in that price no way.
I wish I would have snapped a few pics of the tree now that everyone here needs a glance at it. Oh well, and that HO is not coming back to me. If there are other crews that are saying everything you all are saying, they already got it for something like $1,200. I'd also consider that the HO can't even afford to remove the thing this year.
:bang: As much as I can hit myself in the head with that behemoth stick and learn some hard lessons, I don't think it's going to remedy my thinking much gooder.
Truthfully, I was just frustrated and threw that number out there at that tight wad HO. That's the first time I've ever done that. December this year has been bearing down on me all month.
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treemandan
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yeah, you run em to the shop then back to the crew!
I think I just killed myself with that one
treemandan
Tree Freak
No no, if we gotta put up with him so do you.
treeclimber101
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OUCH MATT LOL funny as hell though how you superimposed it and posted it friggan hilarious
Lol! You know what's even funnier, is the thought of Matt's boot heels still quimmering from your fat tongue licking them! Lol.
Back at it today. Think I beat the nasty weather, and am mostly caught up.
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treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
what's funny is I think you mean shimmering and with your reckless life style and slipping popularity here I just wanna make sure I back the better horse .... Just kidding though you know I have a huge soft spot for helmet wearing window lickers
Yeah I don't think it has to take you 3 whole days.
lol I was wondering how you get banned in 1 post, even MDS could not beat that. But then I saw the Sig... :frown::bang:
the Aerialist
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He's just here to cause trouble and fling feces, I've asked him to put me on ignore but he won't do it because he's stalking me.
Your like the kid in this video
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You sit there and tease the monkey then cry about getting kicked in the face.
the Aerialist
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Here's how to catch a monkey ...
Catching a monkey is easy. All you do is get a coconut and put a walnut sized hole in it, then put a smaller nut in the coconut. Let them see you do it, then walk away. Before you know it the boldest monkey will come over and put his hand in the coconut to get the treat you put there for him.
Once the monkey has the treat in his hand he can't pull his hand out of the coconut. At that point he's yours because he's not smart enough to let it go.
I'm in my mid sixties but I'd love for one of you feces flinging monkeys to man up and try that in person. It's easy to act like monkeys with a keyboard. You should nominate someone to step up and take the bait.
Catching a monkey is easy. All you do is get a coconut and put a walnut sized hole in it, then put a smaller nut in the coconut. Let them see you do it, then walk away. Before you know it the boldest monkey will come over and put his hand in the coconut to get the treat you put there for him.
Once the monkey has the treat in his hand he can't pull his hand out of the coconut. At that point he's yours because he's not smart enough to let it go.
I'm in my mid sixties but I'd love for one of you feces flinging monkeys to man up and try that in person. It's easy to act like monkeys with a keyboard. You should nominate someone to step up and take the bait.
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