J.J. we both work for Skyline Alterations out of Susanville, Ca. I haven't worked since the end of July because of my hip, but Aaron has worked from mid-April til last week. They were working in about a foot of snow at 6000' and they finished up there sale [SP ground] and they shut them down for awhile. The mechanical side is still working lower, but its misirable. He cuts by the piece and has done well this season. He's an avid hunter and fisherman so he doesn't mind the time off right now for duck and goose season. We cut for Columbia or Ericson Helicopter sometimes when they come around are area, mostly in the winter or spring. We've worked for Skyline for about 5 years straight now, cutting there yarder for 2 years. Just cat logging now, they sold there yarder. They carry about 5 steady cutters, but had 8 at the end of this year. They try to set the rate for the average guy to make $300 for 61/2 hours, but you have to cut by the piece, not by the day. So you work for the money. They have been good to work for and we get along good with the boss too. I'm good friends with one of them. Still I wish Aaron would finish school so he has something to fall back on if things ever changed. The woods has always kept us feeling free and independent but things are changing day by day. Dennis