Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[djg james]

I want to thank everyone for their kind words of encouragement. I didn't thank you individually but I meant to. I'm going to take a break for a while, while I decide what I'm going to do. As suggested, I'm NOT going to run the saw and will try to contact the seller through CL. I would like to keep the saw so maybe his lack of full disclosure was out of ignorance and not intent. Maybe he'll feel a little remorseful and give me a partial refund to fix it. We'll see.
If I do fix it, I'm going to hold all of you to your offers to walk me through it. Just remember how much of a PITA I was with my 038. So you can back out now if you want. Remember I'm just a homeowner who cuts his own firewood and has never worked on a saw before. It scares me just thinking about tearing it down to the piston.
I do have one ace in the hole. My neighbor restores old tractors so maybe he would have the tools to put on the rings and hone the cylinder. Maybe I could get a few minutes of time to help me.
Anyway, keep on cutting and I'll be seeing you.

Thanks

Dan

P.S. @MustangMike , I would like to see that video. If you could attach it, I'd appreciate it.

 

[MustangMike]

I do this with a cordless Drill. Randy is "Mastermind Work Saws" (MMWS), he ports saws for folks around the world!

I've salvaged numerous cylinders using this method, just be careful near the ports.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t&p=removing+transfer+from+chainsaw+cylinder#id=2&vid=da1dff70b0968b6014819bffdd102318&action=click

 

[MustangMike]

For my mandrel, I used the metal from one of those political campaign posters that they put on the lawns. There are plenty of them around!

It takes some time, but it works!

 

[JustJeff]

Hey Neil, they're cracking down in London town!
https://www.embers.co.uk/wood-burning-stoves/
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[svk]

I’ve wanted a saw from this family for a long time, finally got one today.

 

[LondonNeil]

Hey Neil, they're cracking down in London town!
https://www.embers.co.uk/wood-burning-stoves/
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Yeah, nothing new. We follow EPA regs. The new regs are on sales or stoves, not use... Yet. They are also banning sales of wet wood, sales of coal other then smokeless, and setting a sulphur content limit on such coal.
Won't affect me, my wood is seasoned by me for 2.5 years and I burn hot. You dont see smoke from my chimney.

 

[chipper1]

Overall he did a number of good things for the country. Plus he was a real man.
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Yes he did, but I could say much about the damage of that one particular bill. The repercussions are still being felt to this day and will be felt even more in the next yr if these new vaccines are allowed to be pushed thru without proper testing, and the fact remains that since he signed that bill there has not been a single vaccine that has been tested as they should have been, although policing them or the lack of is not on him.

I don't see any huskys , and do those have side tensioners .

 

[chipper1]

I want to thank everyone for their kind words of encouragement. I didn't thank you individually but I meant to. I'm going to take a break for a while, while I decide what I'm going to do. As suggested, I'm NOT going to run the saw and will try to contact the seller through CL. I would like to keep the saw so maybe his lack of full disclosure was out of ignorance and not intent. Maybe he'll feel a little remorseful and give me a partial refund to fix it. We'll see.
If I do fix it, I'm going to hold all of you to your offers to walk me through it. Just remember how much of a PITA I was with my 038. So you can back out now if you want. Remember I'm just a homeowner who cuts his own firewood and has never worked on a saw before. It scares me just thinking about tearing it down to the piston.
I do have one ace in the hole. My neighbor restores old tractors so maybe he would have the tools to put on the rings and hone the cylinder. Maybe I could get a few minutes of time to help me.
Anyway, keep on cutting and I'll be seeing you.

Thanks

Dan

P.S. @MustangMike , I would like to see that video. If you could attach it, I'd appreciate it.

Hopefully he will work with you, but as said even if he doesn't it can still be fixed.
Were you that bad on the 038, couldn't have been, I don't remember it at all, maybe I missed a few pages lol.
The first thing is to vacuum test it before tearing it down to see if you have an air leak, if this isn't done and you don't find the leak and fix it when you replace the piston you will end up in the same place as you are now, with a a burnt piston. So if your neighbor doesn't have a way to vacuum test it then I wouldn't tear it down quite yet. Hopefully it was straight gassed(no oil in the gas) as there's a good chance of that, if that's the case you basically just need to clean up the cylinder and replace the piston/rings and base gasket.
Also the tool for the rings is pretty cheap, and you can damage a chainsaw cylinder pretty easy with a hone.

 

[Deleted member 117362]

Hopefully he will work with you, but as said even if he doesn't it can still be fixed.
Were you that bad on the 038, couldn't have been, I don't remember it at all, maybe I missed a few pages lol.
The first thing is to vacuum test it before tearing it down to see if you have an air leak, if this isn't done and you don't find the leak and fix it when you replace the piston you will end up in the same place as you are now, with a a burnt piston. So if your neighbor doesn't have a way to vacuum test it then I wouldn't tear it down quite yet. Hopefully it was straight gassed(no oil in the gas) as there's a good chance of that, if that's the case you basically just need to clean up the cylinder and replace the piston/rings and base gasket.
Also the tool for the rings is pretty cheap, and you can damage a chainsaw cylinder pretty easy with a hone.

How would he know it was straight gassed? Maybe intake side is scored just as bad?

 

[chipper1]

How would he know it was straight gassed? Maybe intake side is scored just as bad?

Yep, but I would still vac test it if possible. As I'm sure you know a vac test can find a problem before it causes a saw to burn up sometimes so it's not a bad idea.
From being straight gassed most pistons will have damage all the way around as there is no oil to protect the cylinder/piston, as friction between the two heats up the piston melts down, then parts of the piston are left on the cylinder which is called transfer(not saying that for you Duce ).
Funny how some won't have transfer all the way around, but will have some odd gouges in various places, have you seen that before. It trashes a cylinder when that happens, I'd much rather have transfer.

 

[MustangMike]

Straight gas both sides are burned. Ex side only is either a heat failure or too lean (bad tune or leak).

Often, the heat failure is due to pushing a dull chain for too long, especially in saws that still have the carb limiters.

 

[djg james]

Anyone have a link for reasonably priced vacuum/pressure tester that you have and like? Looked at Amazon and they have a lot.

 

[svk]

Good question. I need one too.

 

[psuiewalsh]

Mityvac. They have positive and neg pressure models. I use a cheap brake bleeder for negative and my compressor with fine adjust regulator for positive.

 

[MustangMike]

I use the Mityvac, no complaints.

 

[Deleted member 117362]

Yep, but I would still vac test it if possible. As I'm sure you know a vac test can find a problem before it causes a saw to burn up sometimes so it's not a bad idea.
From being straight gassed most pistons will have damage all the way around as there is no oil to protect the cylinder/piston, as friction between the two heats up the piston melts down, then parts of the piston are left on the cylinder which is called transfer(not saying that for you Duce ).
Funny how some won't have transfer all the way around, but will have some odd gouges in various places, have you seen that before. It trashes a cylinder when that happens, I'd much rather have transfer.

If he is going to keep this saw and not resell it. A vertical gouge with smooth edges will still work, horizontal gouges (nope). Light vertical lines will smooth edges will fill in with carbon and run fine. Are those saw you would sell, No. Saw you would cut with, sure. Agree he needs to p/v check that case first or just wasting money and time. Like most, Mityvac works great and can be found at auto stores or online. If he is working on a budget, good used parts will produce a nice saw. Made worst looking 372 out of good used parts (some JB weld), new bearing, new ported p/c and left over parts I had. Looks bad, cuts great, low 200+psi, see how long bottom end holds up. Am sure if he posts parts need here, searches e-bay or local dealer used parts are available. If it stops raining, will post results and pics of my home made launcher.

 

[farmer steve]

If he is going to keep this saw and not resell it. A vertical gouge with smooth edges will still work, horizontal gouges (nope). Light vertical lines will smooth edges will fill in with carbon and run fine. Are those saw you would sell, No. Saw you would cut with, sure. Agree he needs to p/v check that case first or just wasting money and time. Like most, Mityvac works great and can be found at auto stores or online. If he is working on a budget, good used parts will produce a nice saw. Made worst looking 372 out of good used parts (some JB weld), new bearing, new ported p/c and left over parts I had. Looks bad, cuts great, low 200+psi, see how long bottom end holds up. Am sure if he posts parts need here, searches e-bay or local dealer used parts are available. If it stops raining, will post results and pics of my home made launcher.

For the muffler screws? Sorry buddy,couldn't resist. 200 PSI sounds like I would have a sore shoulder.

 

[mountainguyed67]

It wouldn’t do it. And yeah blade wouldn’t go high enough.

I‘ve been envious of your dozer, but here’s a benefit of a loader. That’s why companies have a variety of machines, but people like you and I can often only afford one. So we make do.

I think I’ve posted this already, but oh well. It’s fitting in this discussion. 28” cedar.

 

[Philbert]

. . . people like you and I can often only afford one.

I've got a Subaru without even a trailer hitch . . .

Philbert

 

[Deleted member 117362]

Here is my review of launcher. Finally stopped raining. Stick against tree is between 8-9 foot to give perspective. Purchased an 11oz and 15oz bags, 2 spools of 166ft throw line, all are cheap Forester brand. Usually used mason line for throw line, like this Forester line better. Pictures are of equipment, first shot, second shot and results. Launcher with 60psi is all I would ever need to use here. First shot rope hung up in bag and bag went with it. Second shot over limb, over pine and caught limb in oak. Did not measure distance, but guess is at least 75 feet away. 15oz bag will not go down 1-1/2" PVC pipe. 11oz bag you need a ram rod to seat bag. Will be using this, but it's not light to carry everything around, was close to garage so used compressor, bicycle pump would work, will be using 12v compressor from tractor. It is accurate, but not a toy, bag comes out with force. Can't imagine 100psi