Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[Sawyer Rob]

Here's some serious reclaiming of some farmland here on my place, I have a few overgrown acres I want to expand a hayfield, into,

Sometimes I drove in right over the brush, hogging it out, and sometimes I backed in with the rotary cutter up about ten inches and then drove ahead with it down.

Either way, my Brush Bull really eats that one-to-two-inch brush up!

SR

 

[chipper1]

Here's some serious reclaiming of some farmland here on my place, I have a few overgrown acres I want to expand a hayfield, into,

Sometimes I drove in right over the brush, hogging it out, and sometimes I backed in with the rotary cutter up about ten inches and then drove ahead with it down.

Either way, my Brush Bull really eats that one-to-two-inch brush up!

SR

That's a beasty unit Rob. What does the manual say for the biggest it can do.
That looks looooong too.
I have a Land Pride unit, iirc it says it will do 4" trees, like I want to drive over a 4" tree . I think mine is 35-85hp, it's there middle of the rd unit. I can't imagine how HD their heaviest unit is, mine is a 60" and it's 998lbs iirc.
Here's my beast's.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

That's a beasty unit Rob. What does the manual say for the biggest it can do.
That looks looooong too.
I have a Land Pride unit, iirc it says it will do 4" trees, like I want to drive over a 4" tree . I think mine is 35-85hp, it's there middle of the rd unit. I can't imagine how HD their heaviest unit is, mine is a 60" and it's 998lbs iirc.
Here's my beast's.

I think your manual has a misprint in it, Land Pride cutters with 130hp gearboxes on them are only rated for 3" tree's.

Mine in the above pict. has a 120HP gearbox on it and is considered a medium duty by Woods, I've taken out 5" pines, but I wouldn't make a habit out of it! It will take out 3" pines all day long, but I'd hate to have to do that too. lol

It's hardwoods that are hard on those gearboxes, not to mention the driveline in the tractor!

SR

 

[Squareground3691]

That's a beasty unit Rob. What does the manual say for the biggest it can do.
That looks looooong too.
I have a Land Pride unit, iirc it says it will do 4" trees, like I want to drive over a 4" tree . I think mine is 35-85hp, it's there middle of the rd unit. I can't imagine how HD their heaviest unit is, mine is a 60" and it's 998lbs iirc.
Here's my beast's.
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One fine tractor Brett , what hp can’t see model was looking at the L3302 real nice it on my radar ,

 

[Vtrombly]

yecccccchhhh..snakes.....

 

[chipper1]

I think your manual has a misprint in it, Land Pride cutters with 130hp gearboxes on them are only rated for 3" tree's.

Mine in the above pict. has a 120HP gearbox on it and is considered a medium duty by Woods, I've taken out 5" pines, but I wouldn't make a habit out of it! It will take out 3" pines all day long, but I'd hate to have to do that too. lol

It's hardwoods that are hard on those gearboxes, not to mention the driveline in the tractor!

SR

You're right, 3".
But I'm not planning on doing anything over 2, unless I can swing it over it just behind the tractor tires on the corner. Now I have dropped it down on a rotten stump or two after getting all the fencing off but what was pinched.

And 130hp .

Never knew it had a dishpan either .

One fine tractor Brett , what hp can’t see model was looking at the L3302 real nice it on my radar ,

It's a Kubota L3800, 37.4hp iirc, but after being wrong as much as I was above, you should probably look that up .

Edit, looks like I was off a few lbs on the weight too lol.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

You're right, 3".
But I'm not planning on doing anything over 2, unless I can swing it over it just behind the tractor tires on the corner. Now I have dropped it down on a rotten stump or two after getting all the fencing off but what was pinched.
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And 130hp .
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Never knew it had a dishpan either .
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It's a Kubota L3800, 37.4hp iirc, but after being wrong as much as I was above, you should probably look that up .

Edit, looks like I was off a few lbs on the weight too lol.

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That is a pretty HD rotary cutter, nice. The pan on the bottom is normally called a "stump jumper".

Anyway, be careful of how big of trees you take out with a small tractor, a small tractors PTO driveline isn't made for that kind of stress, you will snap it internally. I've seen it happen, but you have a nice setup!

SR

 

[JustPlainJeff]

You guys both have bigger, heavier duty tractors as well as rotary cutters than I do. I've got my little 4' Land Pride on my little BX, and it's only rated to cut up to 1" stuff according to the manual. I try to not even get close to the 1" max if possible. I cringe every time that I even hit a rock or a stump while brush hogging. I'm wanting a 75'ish HP tractor and larger cutter in the worst way, but have already spent a lot of money this year, and am trying to tighten the purse strings for another year or two before making any larger purchases. The little one of mine DOES do a nice job on the trails around my house and through the woods though.

 

[jolj]

I think your manual has a misprint in it, Land Pride cutters with 130hp gearboxes on them are only rated for 3" tree's.

Mine in the above pict. has a 120HP gearbox on it and is considered a medium duty by Woods, I've taken out 5" pines, but I wouldn't make a habit out of it! It will take out 3" pines all day long, but I'd hate to have to do that too. lol

It's hardwoods that are hard on those gearboxes, not to mention the driveline in the tractor!

SR

I have the RCR1872 & it is 72" wide X 110" Long, my cutting capacity is 2", 20-65 horsepower.
I would not cut anything 2" with a rotary cutter, a chainsaw or weedeater blade.
I bought my to mower the open land, not clear trees.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I have the RCR1872 & it is 72" wide X 110" Long, my cutting capacity is 2", 20-65 horsepower.
I would not cut anything 2" with a rotary cutter, a chainsaw or weedeater blade.
I bought my to mower the open land, not clear trees.

With "A" rotary cutter, or with YOUR rotary cutter?

I wouldn't live long enough to cut everything I have to cut, if I used a weedeater/blade or chainsaw!!!

My cutter as is chippers cutter, is made to cut heavy brush, and that's exactly how I use mine.

SR

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I

Nosler Partitions (NP's) are the finest all-around big game hunting bullet available today!

They will give some expansion at low velocities and VERY good expansion at med/hi velocities, and when the nose expands off, the base 2/3's drives in DEEP even after hitting heavy bone, even at higher velocities. I have shot truckloads of big game with NP's...

In another lifetime, I designed/swaged and sold bullets, (and mfg'd ammo) mostly copper/bonded core bullets. At one time myself and Bill Steiger were the only two bonded bullet mfg'ers (Bill was first) and to this day, I'm still using NP's.

NO other bullet works better at both, low and hi velocities all in one bullet!

SR

I've recoverd several NP 180gr bullets from Blacktail fired out of a 30-06. Every one I've recoverd had the front segment of lead completely separated from the bullet at the partition. Thus creating a tremendous loss in weight retention. That being said. It dosent really matter, because deer die very easily with a well placed shot from just about any type of hunting bullet fired out of a 30-06 class or above cartridge . IMOP The NP is a good deer, Rocky Mountain Elk, or moose hunting projectile. However, for big Coastal Brown Bear, Bison or Roosevelt Elk. It's the Swift A-frame for me. Also, IMOP The Swift A-frame is far more superior to any other hunting bullet for weight retention and energy transfer. The A-frame is a favorite amongst many Alaskan big game guides for stopping power. Don't get me wrong. The Barns XTP Is also a proven bullet as well as the NP. A friend of mine had to shoot his 9.5 foot Kodiak five times with a 300WM 180gr XTP before it stopped moving. All well placed shots. The Bear was at a full charge when he hit the animal at twelve yards. The first shot rolled the bear. As the bear was thrashing trying to get up. The hunter put four more rounds into the bruin before the animal stopped moving.
I just feel the Swift-A frame is a bit better because it is basically a bonded NP and the forward segment of lead doesn't separate at the cup. Basically a NP on steroids! It is also a favorite amongst African PH's and Africa hunters as well. Although, it doesn't have the BC the XTP or NP has, but it wasn't designed for long range shooting. It was designed for hunting!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

And cost!

What do you guys think of echo?

I can hear them echo in the woods when someone is running an Echo

 

[Sawyer Rob]

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I've recoverd several NP 180gr bullets from Blacktail fired out of a 30-06. Every one I've recoverd had the front segment of lead completely separated from the bullet at the partition. Thus creating a tremendous loss in weight retention. IMOP The NP is a good deer, Rocky Mountain Elk, or moose hunting projectile. However, for big Coastal Brown Bear, Bison or Roosevelt Elk. Also, IMOP The Swift A-frame is far more superior to any other hunting bullet for weight retention and energy transfer. The A-frame is a favorite amongst many Alaskan big game guides for stopping power. Don't get me wrong. The Barns XTP Is also a proven bullet as well as the NP. A friend of mine had to shoot his 9.5 foot Kodiak 5 times with a 300WM 180gr XTP five times before it stopped moving. All well placed shots. The Bear was at a full charge when he hit the animal at twelve yards. The first shot rolled the bear. As the bear was thrashing trying to get up. The hunter put four more rounds into the bruin before the animal stopped moving.
I just feel the Swift-A frame is a bit better because it is basically a bonded NP and the forward segment of lead doesn't separate at the cup. Basically a NP on steroids! It is also a favorite amongst African PH's and Africa hunters as well. Although, it doesn't have the BC the XTP or NP has, but it wasn't designed for long range shooting. It was designed for hunting!

I hunted big bears, quite a bit... I use a 200NP in 30 cal.. Yes the nose comes off, and I like that, as it does a LOT of damage when that happens. Then the rest of the bullet drives in, going very deep, in my experiments, deeper than an equal size Swift.

The Swift holds more weight, and stays a bigger diameter and because of that diameter, it slows the bullet down faster too. My experience has shown me that the nose coming off on the NP is an advantage, and that's in big bears too. My test has shown the Swifts don't open up near as fast, or near as well at lower velocities too.

I've hunted Kodiak, Afognak, Shuyak and Montague, along with the Alaska chain, and we took some big bears on those hunts.

SR

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I hunted big bears, quite a bit... I use a 200NP in 30 cal.. Yes the nose comes off, and I like that, as it does a LOT of damage when that happens. Then the rest of the bullet drives in, going very deep, in my experiments, deeper than an equal size Swift.

The Swift holds more weight, and stays a bigger diameter and because of that diameter, it slows the bullet down faster too. My experience has shown me that the nose coming off on the NP is an advantage, and that's in big bears too. My test has shown the Swifts don't open up near as fast, or near as well at lower velocities too.

I've hunted Kodiak, Afognak, Shuyak and Montague, along with the Alaska chain, and we took some big bears on those hunts.

SR

Sounds good We can definitely agree to disagree. I've heard a lot of horror stories from fellow hunters and Guides stop using the NP because of severe bullet segmentation when hitting big bone. Thus not penatrating into the vitals. IMOP its an older design and there are better projectiles on the market today. The fact that a 180 out of an 06 on a Blacktial separated on light bone and didn't punch through the entire animal was enough to make me a non believer , and that was just medium game. I Shot both my Kodiak's with 250gr Swift A-frames out of a .338WM first bear took only one shot and the game was over. Dropped in his tracks dead. The second bear only took two doses of the bullet. Both well placed shots breaking heavy bone and penatrating deep through vitals and breaking heavy bone on the other side only to stop short of the hide. All the bullets energy was used inside both animals. No energy wasted by over penatrating or rapid segmentation. Like I said earlier, A favorite amongst African PH's. However, it sounds like the NP has worked well for you Pard, and thats all that matters right? Whatever works for you. The Swift A-frame definitely works for me!

 

[Jeffkrib]

And cost!

What do you guys think of echo?

What are you planning to do with it Neil, keep it or flip it?

 

[jolj]

With "A" rotary cutter, or with YOUR rotary cutter?

I wouldn't live long enough to cut everything I have to cut, if I used a weedeater/blade or chainsaw!!!

My cutter as is chippers cutter, is made to cut heavy brush, and that's exactly how I use mine.

SR

My cutter, I do not care what you do with yours.
1) anything two inches or bigger will not rot in twelve months.
2) it can be firewood for someone
3) would make great wood chips
4) IMHO only Tim the ToolMan need a mower that cuts bigger stuff than anyone else has.
5) I see it as a waste of resources.
But that's just me, you do what you want with your money.

 

[LondonNeil]

What are you planning to do with it Neil, keep it or flip it?

Not sure. Tbh I doubt I'd get it. Judging by the sellers other items he's dealing in used outdoor equipment. He's listed it as 'but it now' like all the other stuff and despite it being grimy and not running well it looks moderately high cost....if it really is light use and just needs a carb clean it's not far off fair (£275,. They can be found new for £425)
I reckon he'll let it sit until someone pays the BIN price but I'll watch it and if I'm passing the location in a few months I might go and check it out. If the piston is ok and the saw feels ok other then the grime and described fault...at £200, a clean, a cheap carb kit fixing it's issues... That would feel a bargain.
Would I keep a 50cc saw though? Probably not, I've no need for it, I'd want to flip it but for what I'd make it would be a lot of effort for very little, so factor in the risk that it does need a coil or something else and it's probably not for me.
I'll keep watching it for a while though.

 

[Squareground3691]

You guys both have bigger, heavier duty tractors as well as rotary cutters than I do. I've got my little 4' Land Pride on my little BX, and it's only rated to cut up to 1" stuff according to the manual. I try to not even get close to the 1" max if possible. I cringe every time that I even hit a rock or a stump while brush hogging. I'm wanting a 75'ish HP tractor and larger cutter in the worst way, but have already spent a lot of money this year, and am trying to tighten the purse strings for another year or two before making any larger purchases. The little one of mine DOES do a nice job on the trails around my house and through the woods though.

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How’s that machine been treating ya ?

 

[Squareground3691]

You guys both have bigger, heavier duty tractors as well as rotary cutters than I do. I've got my little 4' Land Pride on my little BX, and it's only rated to cut up to 1" stuff according to the manual. I try to not even get close to the 1" max if possible. I cringe every time that I even hit a rock or a stump while brush hogging. I'm wanting a 75'ish HP tractor and larger cutter in the worst way, but have already spent a lot of money this year, and am trying to tighten the purse strings for another year or two before making any larger purchases. The little one of mine DOES do a nice job on the trails around my house and through the woods though.

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How’s that machine been treating ya

That's a beasty unit Rob. What does the manual say for the biggest it can do.
That looks looooong too.
I have a Land Pride unit, iirc it says it will do 4" trees, like I want to drive over a 4" tree . I think mine is 35-85hp, it's there middle of the rd unit. I can't imagine how HD their heaviest unit is, mine is a 60" and it's 998lbs iirc.
Here's my beast's.
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What year it that Brett , any issues sense you got it ? Once again nice Really interested in that one mentioned, What you think about RK tractors ?

 

[chipper1]

That is a pretty HD rotary cutter, nice. The pan on the bottom is normally called a "stump jumper".

Anyway, be careful of how big of trees you take out with a small tractor, a small tractors PTO driveline isn't made for that kind of stress, you will snap it internally. I've seen it happen, but you have a nice setup!

SR

It is. I drove up just nw or traverse city to get it.
Unfortunately I don't use it much, so I've been considering selling it. I knew that part, thought it was funny they called it a dishpan, never heard that before. I'm still alive, learned something new today .

I don't like to hit anything much over 2", maybe like you said, some softwoods, or soft wood like box elders. Speaking of box elders(I'm sure you know this, others may not), if you cut them off with a saw; most times they will regrow as do many other species, but when you hit them with the rotary cutter, they don't. That being said, a nice low cut on the bigger stuff sure looks nicer than a "shredded" stump, but when you have larger areas to cut/clear, time is of the essence.

You guys both have bigger, heavier duty tractors as well as rotary cutters than I do. I've got my little 4' Land Pride on my little BX, and it's only rated to cut up to 1" stuff according to the manual. I try to not even get close to the 1" max if possible. I cringe every time that I even hit a rock or a stump while brush hogging. I'm wanting a 75'ish HP tractor and larger cutter in the worst way, but have already spent a lot of money this year, and am trying to tighten the purse strings for another year or two before making any larger purchases. The little one of mine DOES do a nice job on the trails around my house and through the woods though.

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That's a nice little ride and brush hog. It's just like saws or bullets/guns, tough to find one that does it all well, that why its good to have at least two of any of them
Sure is beautiful up there.

How’s that machine been treating ya

What year it that Brett , any issues sense you got it ? Once again nice Really interested in that one mentioned, What you think about RK tractors ?

Great, it's a hard working machine. But it's light in the butt, with the skidding winch on it I'd say it's about perfect.
Its a 2014, last yr they made this exact model, my B2620 is also a 2014 iirc, it's also a great machine, but very expensive for the size.
Zero problems except when I ran it out of fuel one time and couldn't get the injectors to bleed out. It was low and I knew it, but I only had a little bit of light and wanted to get our home pressure washed. The boy was running the tractor with me in the bucket, I heard it surge and told him to shut it off right away(I drove truck for 20yrs, I know that sound all to well), which he did. So I got fuel and put it in thinking it would fire right back up because I didn't run it completely dry, it didn't . I was on a tractor forum and guess were saying all sorts of crap like the injector pump was bad(a very costly part). Well I tried a few times to bleed it and it finally fired up and has been running great since.
I like it a lot.
I know nothing about RK tractors, Rob may though, sure he could give you some advice on tractors, he runs his harder than most so he knows what lasts.