Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[Backyard Lumberjack]

Echoville doesn't show up om Google Maps. Hafta wonder, Cowboys or Texans? Longhorns or Aggies?

4/4.....

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

That was a wild hit.

lol, mite qualify as a miss!

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

As a bullet mfg'er, I have tested thousands of bullets, my own and many other brands, many in live animals under hunting conditions, and that's been my findings. Water jugs, 55gallon bbls, phone books ect., isn't the same as live animals, at least that also has been my findings.
I'm not into any of that "stuff" anymore and I'm glad to be away from it and put it behind me, even though I still have most of my swage press' ect...
SR

hi SR - my dad used to scrounge up shot lead bullets from the run range when he was stationed over in E WA... melt down. some bars he sold, some he made some bullets with.

how big into manufacturing bullets, etc were you? i have watched the Modern Marvels docu vid a couple of time. bullets, imo... are an interesting technology! independent shop based - or a manufacturing facility with employees?

sounds like Remington staying busy:

How many bullets does Remington make in a day?

It hired back hundreds of former and new employees and is now producing upwards of a million rounds every day.

Ammunition manufacturing capacity, for the United States market, is about 9 billion rounds per year. About 5 billion are rimfire, about 4 billion are centerfire.

interesting subject!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet

 

[Backyard Lumberjack]

I guess I had something deleted for "political" reasons, but I'm not sure what!

Any way to identify what they deleted? (Just curious).

good question! i read all your posts yesterday, and imo... did not find anything that i would say was contrast to this site's required Term of Use policy...

 

[Brufab]

I guess I had something deleted for "political" reasons, but I'm not sure what!

Any way to identify what they deleted? (Just curious).

Dang MM I wish I could of read it.

 

[North by Northwest]

For the record, I never intentionally hit brush, always try to thread the needle, but in many places if you are not going to shoot at a walking deer (sometimes briskly) going through heavy brush, you are not going to get a deer. That is where they go when hunting season starts.

If you hunt where there is no (or little) hunting pressure, good for you, but I don't have that luxury.

The closer the brush is too the deer, the better your chances. When I had the bad experience with a 270, the very small brush was about 10 yds from me and the focus of the scope made it invisible. It was only about 1/8" stuff, but it deflected 3 bullets wildly. (the deer did not know where I was and kept going in a circle) My brother also did not get a deer he hit right in the shoulder with the 270 (less than 50 yds away) because the bullet went through brush and lost too much power before it hit the deer, and I took a deer with the 270 Win Short Mag and was not impressed with the bullet performance. Again, heavy brush, the bullet went in large (indicating a brush hit) and came out very small, leaving a poor blood trail. After that, I resolved to use a larger caliber in the future. I never had the problems (described above) using the 300 Win Mag (downloaded) or the 30-06. However, I have noticed that larger bore guns seem to kill faster, so my 338-06 project will hopefully be just the ticket!

Conversely, my 348 Winchester is like a 35 Rem on Steroids and has taken deer after punching through small saplings. Unfortunately, my eyes are getting too old for open sights. Even within 100 yds, a good scope will make things that are in the shadows brighter. In addition, they implemented the 3 - point rule up at my property, a deer must have at least 3 - 1" tines on one side. Try seeing that on a moving deer in heavy brush!

As I have expressed previously, no gun will be unaffected by brush, but some do a heck of a lot better than others. My goal is to duplicate my 348 with a scope ... and then some! I plan to put a 3 X 9 X 50 on this gun to make it as bright as possible. Fingers crossed! This is my vision of the best hunting rifle for the conditions.

Also, I have not taken near as many deer as several of the folks on this site, but I have taken my share and have taken them with long bow (both from a tree stand and while still hunting), a cross bow, a Muzzleloader, Shotgun and Rifles (5 different calibers). So, I think my understanding of what works, or not, is pretty good.

The only reason I have not taken a bear is because I passed on them, I would rather hunt deer, they taste much better.

Absolutely , especially on the scope deficiency upon magnification making small twigs & brush almost invisible . I never mentioned it , but have taken a few deer with my compound @ 30-40 feet from a ground blind & a 3 yr old Bull moose from a 24 ' tree stand @ 15 yds after calling him in from 200 yds across a pond . All lung shots & down with 100 yds . Only one bear ( not fond of bear meat , just me ) which was a nuisance animal out of season , attempting to destroy a utility shed that someone left garbage in over nite @ Moose Camp !

 

[pdqdl]

I guess I had something deleted for "political" reasons, but I'm not sure what!

Any way to identify what they deleted? (Just curious).

good question! i read all your posts yesterday, and imo... did not find anything that i would say was contrast to this site's required Term of Use policy...

PM's sent.

 

[chipper1]

Absolutely , especially on the scope deficiency upon magnification making small twigs & brush almost invisible . I never mentioned it , but have taken a few deer with my compound @ 30-40 feet from a ground blind & a 3 yr old Bull moose from a 24 ' tree stand @ 15 yds after calling him in from 200 yds across a pond . All lung shots & down with 100 yds . Only one bear ( not fond of bear meat , just me ) which was a nuisance animal out of season , attempting to destroy a utility shed that someone left garbage in over nite @ Moose Camp !

Stainless steel spear on the bear at camp

 

[North by Northwest]

lol, mite qualify as a miss!

Does the term riccochet come to mind

 

[pdqdl]

good question! i read all your posts yesterday, and imo... did not find anything that i would say was contrast to this site's required Term of Use policy...

If you would you like to appeal the deletions to Arbor1, I'll be happy to make the call. Or just complain mightily to her in a private message.
Let us not, however, turn this into a public spectacle, as occurred last time there were some political commentary deletions in this thread.

 

[North by Northwest]

Stainless steel spear on the bear at camp

Your quite the Brute Brett ...definate potential for Moose Camp , you can set up the Decoy's !

 

[chipper1]

Your quite the Brute Brett ...definate potential for Moose Camp , you can set up the Decoy's !

As long as I'm not the decoy .
I know a guy who hunts them with a spear, screw that.

 

[North by Northwest]

As long as I'm not the decoy .
I know a guy who hunts them with a spear, screw that.

I would never put you in that position brother . Yeah , we will pass on any spear chuckin !

 

[chipper1]

If you would you like to appeal the deletions to Arbor1, I'll be happy to make the call. Or just complain mightily to her in a private message.
Let us not, however, turn this into a public spectacle, as occurred last time there were some political commentary deletions in this thread.

Yeah, that seemed like it was a bit embarrassing .

 

[chipper1]

I would never put you in that position brother . Yeah , we will pass on any spear chuckin !

The guy is pretty gutsy for sure. The thing about a bear, is its not like you can outrun them, or outclimb them, you just have to be sure the guys you go with are slower lol.

 

[chipper1]

What's up @Cowboy254 . Getting ready to start your day

 

[Lionsfan]

Absolutely , especially on the scope deficiency upon magnification making small twigs & brush almost invisible . I never mentioned it , but have taken a few deer with my compound @ 30-40 feet from a ground blind & a 3 yr old Bull moose from a 24 ' tree stand @ 15 yds after calling him in from 200 yds across a pond . All lung shots & down with 100 yds . Only one bear ( not fond of bear meat , just me ) which was a nuisance animal out of season , attempting to destroy a utility shed that someone left garbage in over nite @ Moose Camp !

Speaking of bears, my BIL stopped by this evening to have a few cold ones and mentioned that he drew a bear permit this year. If anyone in the Red Oak district in Michigan has access to bear bait, let me know.

 

[SS396driver]

Speaking of bears, my BIL stopped by this evening to have a few cold ones and mentioned that he drew a bear permit this year. If anyone in the Red Oak district in Michigan has access to bear bait, let me know.

I get one every year part of the sportsman hunting license. Never shot one no real interest in doing so

 

[Kodiak Kid]

For the record, I never intentionally hit brush, always try to thread the needle, but in many places if you are not going to shoot at a walking deer (sometimes briskly) going through heavy brush, you are not going to get a deer. That is where they go when hunting season starts.

If you hunt where there is no (or little) hunting pressure, good for you, but I don't have that luxury.

The closer the brush is too the deer, the better your chances. When I had the bad experience with a 270, the very small brush was about 10 yds from me and the focus of the scope made it invisible. It was only about 1/8" stuff, but it deflected 3 bullets wildly. (the deer did not know where I was and kept going in a circle) My brother also did not get a deer he hit right in the shoulder with the 270 (less than 50 yds away) because the bullet went through brush and lost too much power before it hit the deer, and I took a deer with the 270 Win Short Mag and was not impressed with the bullet performance. Again, heavy brush, the bullet went in large (indicating a brush hit) and came out very small, leaving a poor blood trail. After that, I resolved to use a larger caliber in the future. I never had the problems (described above) using the 300 Win Mag (downloaded) or the 30-06. However, I have noticed that larger bore guns seem to kill faster, so my 338-06 project will hopefully be just the ticket!

Conversely, my 348 Winchester is like a 35 Rem on Steroids and has taken deer after punching through small saplings. Unfortunately, my eyes are getting too old for open sights. Even within 100 yds, a good scope will make things that are in the shadows brighter. In addition, they implemented the 3 - point rule up at my property, a deer must have at least 3 - 1" tines on one side. Try seeing that on a moving deer in heavy brush!

As I have expressed previously, no gun will be unaffected by brush, but some do a heck of a lot better than others. My goal is to duplicate my 348 with a scope ... and then some! I plan to put a 3 X 9 X 50 on this gun to make it as bright as possible. Fingers crossed! This is my vision of the best hunting rifle for the conditions.

Also, I have not taken near as many deer as several of the folks on this site, but I have taken my share and have taken them with long bow (both from a tree stand and while still hunting), a cross bow, a Muzzleloader, Shotgun and Rifles (5 different calibers). So, I think my understanding of what works, or not, is pretty good.

The only reason I have not taken a bear is because I passed on them, I would rather hunt deer, they taste much better.

Well said Mustang! I definitely understand, and can appreciate all of what you stated. Also, I agree with you 100% on no projectile wil be unaffected by brush but some definitely do better than others!

IMOP, Many factors are involved on making a decision on taking a shot through brush at game, and can often be a tough call. That must be made very quick. Especially in your neck of the woods and I Imagine it can often be a tough pill to swallow!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I guess I had something deleted for "political" reasons, but I'm not sure what!

Any way to identify what they deleted? (Just curious).

So did I. I think it was the comments we made about some of our Country's States