Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[Bill G]

Wow, hard to misread that. Unless, you know, you don't slow down...

There is NO reason to argue but I saw a picture of deer and a reference to scroungers out back with them being an easy shot. Then "BUT all I took out today was a woodchuck." That would indicate to me that there was a consideration to shoot the deer. The man said there was not end of story.

 

[Cowboy254]

ANYWAY, I went up to one of the designated scrounging areas yesterday morning with high hopes of a good return.



Slim pickin's. I cut a couple of rounds from a small branch that had fallen across the track and eventually gave up the search in disgust.

 

[LondonNeil]

Why could that be cowboy?

 

[Bill G]

Unless you have cattle or horses Bill . We shot every ground hog we encountered back in the day . It was part of our sighting in program every fall . .222 Rem. 25-06 Rem . 22 Hornet or even some of my larger deer & moose rifles . I think i shot over 100 ground hogs one early fall on the farm , they became a real nuisance animal in the late 60 's in Northern Ontario.

Well I am a farmer so yes I am pretty familiar with livestock. Currently I do not have any but my nephew has cattle on my pastures right now. I have had livestock my entire life and when my kids were growing up we had nearly every species in the freezer. That is except horse and some fowl. We had cattle, hogs, sheep, horses, rabbits, chickens, turkeys ducks, pigeons, guinea. Of course wild game was also in the freezer. I was planning on get a load of dairy calves in this past spring but it never worked out .

When Chipper posted the pic of deer I thought his comments were about deer not groundhogs. I have no issue shooting groundhogs out of season. Yes with have a season here. Our DNR officers would look the other way even if you shot one out of season as they are a problem. The biggest wildlife species problem here is and will remain to be coyotes. They are out of control and completely un-checked. The DNR knows it and has known it. They allow hunting 365 days a year and now even allow night hunting. The only exception I know of is that for many years it was closed for the 7 days of shotgun deer season. That was done to prevent folks from carrying rifles during deer season under the premise of "coyote" hunting. The problem was it prevented deer hunters from dispatching coyotes with a slug while legally deer hunting. The DNR realized that law needed to change so now it is legal to kill coyotes in deer season with a shotgun or muzzle loader. I will take whatever means needed to dispatch a coyote. We have no fox left because the coyotes will find the dens and eat the young. You eat a few litters of young and then there are no adults. They killed my dog, They killed our guinea hens. They have eliminated rabbits. They are the scrounge of the wildlife world here.

Funny story on the oddest way we every killed one. My brother and I were leaving around 5AM to go check our trapline. We were driving an old 1965 Chevelle. As we were heading down our gravel road we spotted a coyote standing along the edge. Of course it was still dark and the dumb poop got confused. Instead of running to the saftey of the ditch the dipstick ran right down the edge of the road. Well my brother floored it and the stupid animal make it grave right there trying to outrun a chevelle. We tossed it in the trunk and went on to check traps. When we got back home our father was leaving for work. We told him what happened. He asked if we shot it. Heck no ole Chevy steel took care of it. He looked at us shook his head and said..."boys be careful opening that trunk, you probably just stunned it." well we popped the trunk and it was dead.

 

[muddstopper]

Well, Sept 10 deer season begins, and unless I change my mine, I might fill the freezer next week. thinking about useing a sling bow, long shot from my condo blind would be about 15 yrds.

 

[JimR]

Yes, a lot of work had to be done to it to get to this point though. I’m still itching to put the log grapple on, once the dirt work is done.

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Now that is a big grapple.

 

[Cowboy254]

Why could that be cowboy?

It's the same areas open for scrounging every year, they get picked over until there's nothing left on the ground. I had some good luck last year with this one that was right next to the road and too big for the average scrounger and I was hoping that with the extra wet winter and a few recent thunderstorms there would be trees down but no luck.

 

[Vtrombly]

Good evening guys,

Cut down two more trees at my in laws this morning got a little Craftsman branded Poulan micro going which aided in the limbing so that helped out a bit. Got done early since it got hot out.

 

[Jeffkrib]

It's the same areas open for scrounging every year, they get picked over until there's nothing left on the ground. I had some good luck last year with this one that was right next to the road and too big for the average scrounger and I was hoping that with the extra wet winter and a few recent thunderstorms there would be trees down but no luck.

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How far is the scrounge site from your place Cowboy? If it's a 10 minute drive thats fine, if its a decent distance.... then it sucks.

 

[North by Northwest]

Everyone I can.


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Don't blame you for carpet bombing those pesky lil rodents Brett into next week brother !

 

[North by Northwest]

Good evening guys,

Cut down two more trees at my in laws this morning got a little Craftsman branded Poulan micro going which aided in the limbing so that helped out a bit. Got done early since it got hot out.View attachment 1014869View attachment 1014870

Nice job Vince , sweet lil top handle !

 

[Vtrombly]

Nice job Vince , sweet lil top handle !

It made the work a heck of a lot easier only using the big saw for the big stuff and switching to the top handle for all the small stuff. And as hot as it was getting I was already drenched as it was wouldn't have lasted lugging the big saw.

 

[North by Northwest]

That's stitched together every sensationalist headline going.... But there's an element of truth to it. In the UK, Domestic mains gas and electric prices are up 350% on the price a little over a year ago, and expected to double again over the next 6-8 months. The pressure on wood has pushed up price to roughly double, meaning my stash is currently worth about £7k.... And when it's half gone by spring and energy has doubled it could still be worth £7k. That's a very scary thought..... Those that aren't a wood freak like me are going too hurt to pay the winter heating bills.

Thank God I have an abundance of hardwood right out back , free for the felling !

 

[North by Northwest]

Well I am a farmer so yes I am pretty familiar with livestock. Currently I do not have any but my nephew has cattle on my pastures right now. I have had livestock my entire life and when my kids were growing up we had nearly every species in the freezer. That is except horse and some fowl. We had cattle, hogs, sheep, horses, rabbits, chickens, turkeys ducks, pigeons, guinea. Of course wild game was also in the freezer. I was planning on get a load of dairy calves in this past spring but it never worked out .

When Chipper posted the pic of deer I thought his comments were about deer not groundhogs. I have no issue shooting groundhogs out of season. Yes with have a season here. Our DNR officers would look the other way even if you shot one out of season as they are a problem. The biggest wildlife species problem here is and will remain to be coyotes. They are out of control and completely un-checked. The DNR knows it and has known it. They allow hunting 365 days a year and now even allow night hunting. The only exception I know of is that for many years it was closed for the 7 days of shotgun deer season. That was done to prevent folks from carrying rifles during deer season under the premise of "coyote" hunting. The problem was it prevented deer hunters from dispatching coyotes with a slug while legally deer hunting. The DNR realized that law needed to change so now it is legal to kill coyotes in deer season with a shotgun or muzzle loader. I will take whatever means needed to dispatch a coyote. We have no fox left because the coyotes will find the dens and eat the young. You eat a few litters of young and then there are no adults. They killed my dog, They killed our guinea hens. They have eliminated rabbits. They are the scrounge of the wildlife world here.

Funny story on the oddest way we every killed one. My brother and I were leaving around 5AM to go check our trapline. We were driving an old 1965 Chevelle. As we were heading down our gravel road we spotted a coyote standing along the edge. Of course it was still dark and the dumb poop got confused. Instead of running to the saftey of the ditch the dipstick ran right down the edge of the road. Well my brother floored it and the stupid animal make it grave right there trying to outrun a chevelle. We tossed it in the trunk and went on to check traps. When we got back home our father was leaving for work. We told him what happened. He asked if we shot it. Heck no ole Chevy steel took care of it. He looked at us shook his head and said..."boys be careful opening that trunk, you probably just stunned it." well we popped the trunk and it was dead.

Yeah , we lost a yearling colt one yr due to groundhogs . Also numerous calfs over the yrs . Coyotes up North here have wreaked havoc with even the Deer & Moose mortality . Initially after the spring bear hunt cancellation , an increase in the black bear population was a concern within Moose Calf kills . Finally the MNR Biologists agreed and the Spring hunt was reinstated . Same thing happened with Coyote hunt for a few yrs . Fortunately it has been reestablish also for the same reason , like wolves their a pack animal . I remember when they 1st showed up North here , they only preyed on small rodents , musk rats , snowshoe hare , wessels a few beaver perhaps , or a random fox . All of a sudden , deer & fawn kills began to rise , then moose calfs . They certainly adapted quickly to larger game animals . Anyhow Bill let me assure you , you will not find a more ethical individual then Chipper1 to a fault even perhaps , brother !

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I've never seen a brown bear in person but I don't think I would want to toy with something that its head is the size of a 50 gallon drum lol. I do love 10 MM though seen allot of guys that hunt deer with them here too.

Im a big 10mm fan and have been for a very long time now. It has become a pretty popular cartridge in the last ten years. I have two 10mm pistoI's. I bought my first 10mm in the late 90's! Long before it was a popular cartridge. I've always appreciated the 10mm Auto's ballistics! IMOP it's a very capable and versatile pistol cartridge!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Well gentleman, a few weeks ago. Filson produced some more tin pants and put them on the market, so I ordered a pair. I've Been waring tin pants in the woods for 25+ years! Great felling trousers on the rainy days! They have always came with a tin of oil finish wax in the back pocket. This time there was no tin of wax, so I emailed Filson about it. They emailed me back stating they don't supply oil wax anymore and it is 10$ a tin now! I emailed them back a second time stating that I'd been a Filson customer fir over 25 years, and really appreciated their products. Even though they come at a premium price! I also stated that I put their gear to the test and need that extra tin of wax! Also, if they are going to charge for it after all these years? I might have to consider taking my business elsewhere! Especially since their tin pants cost a fortune to begin with!!! The rep emailed me back stating that they would talk to their supervisor. That was about a week ago and I hadn't heard from them since...

... Until this mornings mail plane!

Good on ya Filson!!! And I thank you!

 

[Captain Bruce]

I just ran across this while perusing Google articles. I remember seeing a post about a week or so ago with a guy asking about the viability of having firewood kiln dried. That was new to me. I've never bought, sold, or dealt with kiln dried firewood before.

https://www.wcax.com/2022/08/31/fir...errer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s

..because only a knucklehead would go thru the cost and effort....

 

[Bill G]

............ Anyhow Bill let me assure you , you will not find a more ethical individual then Chipper1 to a fault even perhaps , brother !

I am not doubting that. It was simply a bit of confusion regarding a pic of deer and a comment. That happens a lot on the internet. It is a non issue. It did prompt me to start a thread over in the "great outdoors" section. I posted about my experience with unscrupulous deer hunters. I hope it gets some views and comments as I truly want input from others. I have some shall we say "odd" views and a lifetime of experience with them

 

[Bill G]

Well gentleman, a few weeks ago. Filson produced some more tin pants and put them on the market, so I ordered a pair. I've Been waring tin pants in the woods for 25+ years! Great felling trousers on the rainy days! They have always came with a tin of oil finish wax in the back pocket. This time there was no tin of wax, so I emailed Filson about it. They emailed me back stating they don't supply oil wax anymore and it is 10$ a tin now! I emailed them back a second time stating that I'd been a Filson customer fir over 25 years, and really appreciated their products. Even though they come at a premium price! I also stated that I put their gear to the test and need that extra tin of wax! Also, if they are going to charge for it after all these years? I might have to consider taking my business elsewhere! Especially since their tin pants cost a fortune to begin with!!! The rep emailed me back stating that they would talk to their supervisor. That was about a week ago and I hadn't heard from them since...

... Until this mornings mail plane!

Good on ya Filson!!! And I thank you!

Yes those are expensive...............That is more than half my first house payment

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Yes those are expensive...............That is more than half my first house payment

When it comes to the cost of work wear when in miserable conditions and foul weather. "You get what you pay for!" I learned that at the University of The Bering Sea! If Im going to be working in miserable conditions felling timber in Kodiak's rainy and windy coastal environment. Im going to do my best to be as comfortable as possible in the process bud! Just say'n!

When you say your "first" house payment. When did you buy your first house?