Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[Philbert]

I just ran across this while perusing Google articles. I remember seeing a post about a week or so ago with a guy asking about the viability of having firewood kiln dried. That was new to me. I've never bought, sold, or dealt with kiln dried firewood before.

Some big operations kiln dry their firewood so that they can get it to market right away. Reduces space needed, and inventory costs.

A big issue is that kiln dried firewood can be certified to move across boundaries for EAB and other pest restrictions, so it’s good for guys who sell bundles at gas stations, convenience stores, etc.

Might not be the best option for those with time and space to season in the weather.

Philbert

 

[Vtrombly]

They don't even have any restrictions on firewood here anymore they finally gave up and said nothing can be done about EAB which I had known all along and nobody was following it anyhow. Now we got jumping fish....

 

[Bill G]

When it comes to the cost of work wear when in miserable conditions and foul weather. "You get what you pay for!" I learned that at the University of The Bering Sea! If Im going to be working in miserable conditions felling timber in Kodiak's rainy and windy coastal environment. Im going to do my best to be as comfortable as possible in the process bud! Just say'n!

When you say your "first" house payment. When did you buy your first house?

I understand being as comfortable as possible. I am not a fan of wet cold rain. HelI I am not a fan of being wet at all I did not cut today because it was raining.

You ask.....When you say your "first" house payment. When did you buy your first house? Well It was Friday July 25, 1997 at about 1PM. The payment was $301.79 and paid off in 12 years. We came back to my farm and bought my current home June 24, 2000. I was $455 plus change and paid off in 12 years We kept the first one as a rental and then kept buying more rentals after that. I like buying houses

I understand quality workwear just observing it is expensive

 

[Bill G]

They don't even have any restrictions on firewood here anymore they finally gave up and said nothing can be done about EAB which I had known all along and nobody was following it anyhow. Now we got jumping fish....

You got the damm jumping fish do ya? Are you on the west lake? If so you can thank my home state of Illinois for those fish. They refused to deal with them in the Chicago shet ditch (Illinois River) they knew they would jump in the lake and ignored it.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I understand being as comfortable as possible. I am not a fan of wet cold rain. HelI I am not a fan of being wet at all I did not cut today because it was raining.

You ask.....When you say your "first" house payment. When did you buy your first house? Well It was Friday July 25, 1997 at about 1PM. The payment was $301.79 and paid off in 12 years. We came back to my farm and bought my current home June 24, 2000. I was $455 plus change and paid off in 12 years We kept the first one as a rental and then kept buying more rentals after that. I like buying houses

I understand quality workwear just observing it is expensive

Ok I got it. Roger that. I apologize if I came across a bit stern.

Well, the price of tin pants has well more than doubled in the past 25 years. I remember when they were $70 a pair! Then again the price of everything has doubled since then. That must be why you invest in houses! Good on ya! A man with a plan! Wish I were that smart. I've spent half the money I've made in life on wine, women and song. I spent the other half foolishly!

Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

 

[Bill G]

Oh I have wasted, squandered and peed away way too much money myself. MY jaw simply dropped when I saw the $155 price. I cannot say much though as I was in college in the early 90's when "Guess" jeans and "Polo Club" sweatshirts were thought to be the female attractant. Yes I had both at a HIGH price. Neither made me more comfortable, more money and neither attracted females.

 

[Bill G]

I have to say I have full respect for those folks that work in rain and wet weather. I do it when I have to but surely not on a daily basis like others do. When I am working in the rain I am a bit grouchy. I can deal with cold. I can deal with snow. I can deal with heat. I can deal with sun. I can deal with about everything but darn it I do not like getting wet

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Oh I have wasted, squandered and peed away way too much money myself. MY jaw simply dropped when I saw the $155 price. I cannot say much though as I was in college in the early 90's when "Guess" jeans and "Polo Club" sweatshirts were thought to be the female attractant. Yes I had both at a HIGH price. Neither made me more comfortable, more money and neither attracted females.

$155.00!!! Where did you see them for that price?!?! I cringed when a payed I think over 200.00 direct From Filson! Looks like I need to shop around a bit more is what Im think'n!

 

[mountainguyed67]

Excuse my ignorance, but what the heck are tin pants?

 

[Bill G]

$155.00!!! Where did you see them for that price?!?! I cringed when a payed I think over 200.00 direct From Filson! Looks like I need to shop around a bit more is what Im think'n!

Well maybe I have the wrong ones but check here.
https://www.moosejaw.com/product/fi...3446&msclkid=975360e2805d13193b9703f6b25e1441

 

[Bill G]

Excuse my ignorance, but what the heck are tin pants?

No ignorance at all I had not heard of them until tonight either

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I have to say I have full respect for those folks that work in rain and wet weather. I do it when I have to but surely not on a daily basis like others do. When I am working in the rain I am a bit grouchy. I can deal with cold. I can deal with snow. I can deal with heat. I can deal with sun. I can deal with about everything but darn it I do not like getting wet

Yeah it can be miserable sometimes. Especially in the Fall and winter when its cold rain! Our Winter and Fall weather here on the Island can be freezing temps in the teens or single digits from North West winds coming down off the main land one week. Then 35 degrees and rain the next week from the Southerlies or Easterlies coming up off the Gulf.
It's can get pretty sloppy and slushy sometimes!

 

[501Maico]

My assumption that the time that's the most dangerous is If you stumble across a mom with her Cubs.

One morning just after sunup at my property in PA, I ran across a field on my backhoe. When I got to my worksite I shut the motor off to do some groundwork. Before I was able to exit the machine I heard a commotion at the top of a large tree about 50' away at the wood line. Three bear cubs were working their way down to the ground. Pretty soon momma bear shows up at the wood line staring at me. Eventually the 3 cubs made it to mom's side with all of them staring at me. What a cool family photo opportunity if only I had a camera.

 

[501Maico]

Most certainly brother ! Usually put some olive oil on them or squirrel broth and sear them in a cast iron pan both sides . Then put them in a slow cooker with onions , carrots , potatoes & a few small cloves of garlic . Cook for 3 hrs on low . Delicious , a dark meat much like turkey .

Charlie from Wagon Train would have appreciated that recipe for his prairie dogs.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

It's the same areas open for scrounging every year, they get picked over until there's nothing left on the ground. I had some good luck last year with this one that was right next to the road and too big for the average scrounger and I was hoping that with the extra wet winter and a few recent thunderstorms there would be trees down but no luck.

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Good on ya! Great pic, and a great looking scrounge. However, the chain on your big saw look's a bit loose bud. Just saying!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Well I am a farmer so yes I am pretty familiar with livestock. Currently I do not have any but my nephew has cattle on my pastures right now. I have had livestock my entire life and when my kids were growing up we had nearly every species in the freezer. That is except horse and some fowl. We had cattle, hogs, sheep, horses, rabbits, chickens, turkeys ducks, pigeons, guinea. Of course wild game was also in the freezer. I was planning on get a load of dairy calves in this past spring but it never worked out .

When Chipper posted the pic of deer I thought his comments were about deer not groundhogs. I have no issue shooting groundhogs out of season. Yes with have a season here. Our DNR officers would look the other way even if you shot one out of season as they are a problem. The biggest wildlife species problem here is and will remain to be coyotes. They are out of control and completely un-checked. The DNR knows it and has known it. They allow hunting 365 days a year and now even allow night hunting. The only exception I know of is that for many years it was closed for the 7 days of shotgun deer season. That was done to prevent folks from carrying rifles during deer season under the premise of "coyote" hunting. The problem was it prevented deer hunters from dispatching coyotes with a slug while legally deer hunting. The DNR realized that law needed to change so now it is legal to kill coyotes in deer season with a shotgun or muzzle loader. I will take whatever means needed to dispatch a coyote. We have no fox left because the coyotes will find the dens and eat the young. You eat a few litters of young and then there are no adults. They killed my dog, They killed our guinea hens. They have eliminated rabbits. They are the scrounge of the wildlife world here.

Funny story on the oddest way we every killed one. My brother and I were leaving around 5AM to go check our trapline. We were driving an old 1965 Chevelle. As we were heading down our gravel road we spotted a coyote standing along the edge. Of course it was still dark and the dumb poop got confused. Instead of running to the saftey of the ditch the dipstick ran right down the edge of the road. Well my brother floored it and the stupid animal make it grave right there trying to outrun a chevelle. We tossed it in the trunk and went on to check traps. When we got back home our father was leaving for work. We told him what happened. He asked if we shot it. Heck no ole Chevy steel took care of it. He looked at us shook his head and said..."boys be careful opening that trunk, you probably just stunned it." well we popped the trunk and it was dead.

We don't have Coyotes on the Island, but your Chevelle story reminds me of a joke!

What's the difference between a dead deer in the middle of the road and a dead Coyote in the middle of the road?

There is tire skid marks leading up to the dead deer!

 

[Vtrombly]

You got the damm jumping fish do ya? Are you on the west lake? If so you can thank my home state of Illinois for those fish. They refused to deal with them in the Chicago shet ditch (Illinois River) they knew they would jump in the lake and ignored it.

No I don't here but I've seen they are on the way. I live close to Detroit where the EAB originated from. We had woods in my backyard and the trees just started dieing and nobody knew why or said anything about it. I cut so much dead ash with the mac 10 10 as a kid. It was every weekend I can still remember my hands being numb from the vibration on that thing. I almost brought it out for the cleanup of the tornado but I opted for some anti vibe and a sprocket nose. I do enjoy the crackle of a mac for some firewood but I'll leave it for some firewood nowadays.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I am not doubting that. It was simply a bit of confusion regarding a pic of deer and a comment. That happens a lot on the internet. It is a non issue. It did prompt me to start a thread over in the "great outdoors" section. I posted about my experience with unscrupulous deer hunters. I hope it gets some views and comments as I truly want input from others. I have some shall we say "odd" views and a lifetime of experience with them

I tried finding the "great outdoors" section to read your post, but I couldn't find it. I must be doing something wrong. I was pretty interested in reading your post. Being as Im an avid meat hunter as well as a little bit of a Blacktial trophy hunter. I take hunting ethics very seriously.

 

[H-Ranch]

Managed to get a second ATV trailer load from the storm damaged oak that I cleared from across the road on Monday. My helper today even cut a few small rounds with the chainsaw after some brief instructions. The last time I asked if she wanted to she wasn't ready, but this time she asked if she could. She also asked to split one of the 22" rounds so we could load it. It sure is more pleasant to have a willing assistant than to force them to help.

 

[Section VIII]

Some big operations kiln dry their firewood so that they can get it to market right away. Reduces space needed, and inventory costs.

A big issue is that kiln dried firewood can be certified to move across boundaries for EAB and other pest restrictions, so it’s good for guys who sell bundles at gas stations, convenience stores, etc.

Might not be the best option for those with time and space to season in the weather.

Philbert

We have a company in Delaware that sells kiln-dried hardwood that I've wanted to try; however, won't be as the cost would be higher than even my heating oil for which I paid ~$1126 for ~188 gals. The company is primarily a tree service/landscaping company.

$325 = 1/4 cord
$575 = 1/2 cord
$935 = Full cord

Delivery is free within 20 miles.

Stacking costs an additional:

$90 = 1/4 cord
$165 = 1/2 cord
$310 = Full cord

I know firewood isn't cheap but....wow.