Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[Vtrombly]

We have a company in Delaware that sells kiln-dried hardwood that I've wanted to try; however, won't be as the cost would be higher than even my heating oil for which I paid ~$1126 for ~188 gals. The company is primarily a tree service/landscaping company.

$325 = 1/4 cord
$575 = 1/2 cord
$935 = Full cord

Delivery is free within 20 miles.

Stacking costs an additional:

$90 = 1/4 cord
$165 = 1/2 cord
$310 = Full cord

I know firewood isn't cheap but....wow.

That's absolutely insane cant imagine he's selling allot of that. This is in his near future.

 

[chipper1]

Managed to get a second ATV trailer load from the storm damaged oak that I cleared from across the road on Monday. My helper today even cut a few small rounds with the chainsaw after some brief instructions. The last time I asked if she wanted to she wasn't ready, but this time she asked if she could. She also asked to split one of the 22" rounds so we could load it. It sure is more pleasant to have a willing assistant than to force them to help.
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Glad you're able to get out and get a little something done.
I think she's still wanting that jeep . Great she asked though, very cool, both of you will remember this time forever .

 

[Bill G]

I tried finding the "great outdoors" section to read your post, but I couldn't find it. I must be doing something wrong. I was pretty interested in reading your post. Being as Im an avid meat hunter as well as a little bit of a Blacktial trophy hunter. I take hunting ethics very seriously.

This should be the link

https://www.arboristsite.com/thread...nois-farmers-perspective.362494/#post-7813973

 

[Bill G]

We have a company in Delaware that sells kiln-dried hardwood that I've wanted to try; however, won't be as the cost would be higher than even my heating oil for which I paid ~$1126 for ~188 gals. The company is primarily a tree service/landscaping company.

$325 = 1/4 cord
$575 = 1/2 cord
$935 = Full cord

Delivery is free within 20 miles.

Stacking costs an additional:

$90 = 1/4 cord
$165 = 1/2 cord
$310 = Full cord

I know firewood isn't cheap but....wow.

As much as I like burning wood if I had to buy wood and buy it at those prices I would use propane. I realize in your area it would probably be oil just out here oil is non-existent. The $935 is about whatt a local mill was charging for semi loads of logs delivered. Of course you had to cut split and dry it but a semi of logs is a whole lot more than a cord.

 

[stillhunter]

Found this white oak top that was blown down in storm and fell across the road. Got tired in the heat and took this today, I ran out of gas..........not the saw.
prolly 2 more loads left and I'll try to get the rest this week, I'll go there in the morning this week when it's not in the 90's. It's much more "fun" cutting and loading in fall/winter when it's cold !

 

[svk]

There is NO reason to argue but I saw a picture of deer and a reference to scroungers out back with them being an easy shot. Then "BUT all I took out today was a woodchuck." That would indicate to me that there was a consideration to shoot the deer. The man said there was not end of story.

For anybody who hunts… There’s consideration to shoot a deer 365 days a year if you see one. Doesn’t mean you’re going to though lol.

Sorry, just joking around.

 

[svk]

Got up this morning with a pretty bad headache. Had a cup of coffee and popped a few Aleve before laying down on the couch, next thing I knew it was 1:00.

I’m not much of a daytime napper so I always say if I take a nap it’s because I needed one.

Time to head out and try to get that timing gear set into my son’s truck. This project has been dragging on much longer than anticipated but we’ve had so many other things going on.

 

[LondonNeil]

As much as I like burning wood if I had to buy wood and buy it at those prices I would use propane. I realize in your area it would probably be oil just out here oil is no existent. The $935 is about waht a local mill was charging for semi loads of logs delivered. Of course you had to cut split and dry it but a semi of logs is a whole lot more than a cord.

That's the price over here in the UK for much of the South at least currently. Firewood is at about £200/m³ x 3.5 m³/cord x 1.15 $/£ =$805... Wow, it's more!

 

[Bill G]

For anybody who hunts… There’s consideration to shoot a deer 365 days a year if you see one. Doesn’t mean you’re going to though lol.

Sorry, just joking around.

It might be for some but not for me. I does not occur to me just like this spring when I had to "evict" a family of Coons from my hay loft. I gave ole momma coon plenty of notice and warning to get her brood out, She did not listen and my dog got one. She got out but left one baby behind. I put him a MS200T box in the barn loft in the hopes she would come back and she did. Now had that been in season I would have dispatch her but let the small ones go til next year.
I watch the same 2-3 deer every few days in one of my bean fields when I am out with the Mule giving my doggie a ride. It is not my land, it is rented land. There is a nice homemade tower stand right in the corner near where they come out to eat. I do not know who hunts it. This past winter I cleaned up around it and got the brush and briars out of the way so whoever uses it can access it better. I need to call the owner and have him tell whoever hunts it that I have a good UTV path around the field edge to the stand and he should probably get out there near opening day of bow season as shortly thereafter the beans will be out and the deer will move on.

 

[Cowboy254]

How far is the scrounge site from your place Cowboy? If it's a 10 minute drive thats fine, if its a decent distance.... then it sucks.

It's about 15km, albeit with 500m vertical gain. Might put the feelers out with a farmer or two, it's a bit wet at the moment but it would be good to do some cutting before summer.

 

[svk]

I kind of classify animals into three separate groups:
-Vermin: They should be shot on sight when legally allowed. Coyotes, porcupines, and beavers.
-Questionable neighbors: Bears, coons, foxes, groundhogs, and such. If they leave me alone, I leave them alone. We did have a bear a couple years ago that was terrorizing the neighborhood but he must’ve heard my phone conversation with the game warden because he never came back after I called them for permission to dispatch.
-Friendly neighbors: Moose, deer, rabbits and so on.

I have a pact with all animals above the vermin level… If they are respectful of me and my property I will be respectful of their lives. A lot of people will shoot coons, groundhogs, ETC on sight but I do not unless they cause problems. For instance I will shoot groundhogs at my cabin because they’ve been very destructive there. If I saw one at the house I wouldn’t bother it because they’ve never bothered me here in over 40 years.

 

[Bill G]

Well we do not have any porcupines but if we did I would shoot them as they are heck on dumb dogs that want to play.

As for beavers they can be a problem. Especially in our drainage ditches. I farm behind the Mississippi levee and we rely on a system of man made drainage ditches for field time to run excess water into. You cannot allow beavers to dam them up or the outlet of your tile will be under water making it ineffective. Other than that on the river they are fine and in some natural streams their dams build habitat. Of course they must be kept in check though and trapping does that.

Coyotes are a kill on site no questions asked. Groundhogs pretty much the same.

We get an occasional lost black bear that travels through and harms nothing.

Coons are fine and are kept in check through trapping. This will be an interesting fall with coons as my neighbor's wife feeds the critters dog food and LOTS of it. It is not uncommon to have 20-30 coons around her back porch. Her husband hates them but loves her more. He has said kill everyone just do not tell her.

Fox and rabbits are a hot button for me. In this area I will lose a lot of respect for anyone who kills a fox. They harm nothing and the coyotes have killed them off to the point I am not sure I have seen one in at least 10 years or more. I see an occasional rabbit but they are rare due to coyotes

Of course we do not have moose. Somehow a elk made it through here which is completely odd as who knows where it came from.

We have a few mountain lion/cougars and the DNR used to say shoot on site but now teh liberals convinced them to scale that back. The game warden who is a personal friend shot one a few years back and has always told me to kill on site. Thankfully all I have seen is pictures of dead ones. She will never ticket me for doing what needs done.

How about two of the animals that are many times associated with your state...wolves and gophers?

 

[muddstopper]

For anybody who hunts… There’s consideration to shoot a deer 365 days a year if you see one. Doesn’t mean you’re going to though lol.

Sorry, just joking around.

I will if they are in my garden. I used to try to be a sportsman about hunting, but gave that up when the pest started eating me out of house and home. Everybody around me has a deer feeder out and none of them grow a garden. They draw them in and I take them out.

 

[rarefish383]

Found this white oak top that was blown down in storm and fell across the road. Got tired in the heat and took this today, I ran out of gas..........not the saw.View attachment 1015041View attachment 1015042
prolly 2 more loads left and I'll try to get the rest this week, I'll go there in the morning this week when it's not in the 90's. It's much more "fun" cutting and loading in fall/winter when it's cold !

You were probably going over 35, you gotta slow it down or you'll have a heat stroke!

 

[Bill G]

I will if they are in my garden. I used to try to be a sportsman about hunting, but gave that up when the pest started eating me out of house and home. Everybody around me has a deer feeder out and none of them grow a garden. They draw them in and I take them out.

A bit of time and a fence will take care of the problem. No need to dispatch a deer out of season. That is especially true as since you are talking about them in your garden. That means the issue is occurring in spring/early summer. At that time does will have fawns that are dependent on their mother. If you dispatch a doe you have also starved the fawn. I see zero reason in that. I doubt bucks are eating your garden but it is possible. No matter a bit of labor and some fence will take care of the issue. Then when season arrives dispatch the legal amount.

 

[stillhunter]

You were probably going over 35, you gotta slow it down or you'll have a heat stroke!

I'd have a few over the years. The first one was in the 80s. I was 19 in my prime, strong and fit working on a GEO soil testing in a swamp in near Tobor City N.C. in August. I blacked out and fell on the ground out for 3 or 5 mins. said my coworker and when I came back I felt like I was beat w a baseball bat over my body. Took 2 weeks for me to get better, I'd just break down at noon and I was useless. I had another spell 20 some yrs ago while I was surveying/ checking grade on the bottom of a new run off pond at a landfill. There was about 8" of water in the basin and the index was in 100+. I dropped a stake and I bent over to pick it up and got dizzy and about blacked out. I was lucky because I was working by myself w a robot and I thought If I did a face plant in that muddy water I might been dead.....I came back to the office early that afternoon and my boss and friend since high school was not happy. I told him to get me a helper and he said I couldn't and I told then I'm leaving next week and I never came back. I'll be 58 in October.

 

[Sierra_rider]

My scrounge today...a couple loads of oak. Any hardwood is hard to come by around here, so I get it while the getting's good lol. This from a tree I removed at my folks' house...many more loads left from this tree, these rounds are still from the upper half of the tree.

It was a good excuse to try out the 044/46 hybrid I just built, but I ended up using my 400...love that saw, does everything lol. This particular hybrid is kind of a special saw, I did some extra machining to it. It's a torque monster for it's size, but I had a square filed loop of chain on it and didn't want to waste it bucking dirty wood.

 

[Vtrombly]

Well we do not have any porcupines but if we did I would shoot them as they are heck on dumb dogs that want to play.

As for beavers they can be a problem. Especially in our drainage ditches. I farm behind the Mississippi levee and we rely on a system of man made drainage ditches for field time to run excess water into. You cannot allow beavers to dam them up or the outlet of your tile will be under water making it ineffective. Other than that on the river they are fine and in some natural streams their dams build habitat. Of course they must be kept in check though and trapping does that.

Coyotes are a kill on site no questions asked. Groundhogs pretty much the same.

We get an occasional lost black bear that travels through and harms nothing.

Coons are fine and are kept in check through trapping. This will be an interesting fall with coons as my neighbor's wife feeds the critters dog food and LOTS of it. It is not uncommon to have 20-30 coons around her back porch. Her husband hates them but loves her more. He has said kill everyone just do not tell her.

Fox and rabbits are a hot button for me. In this area I will lose a lot of respect for anyone who kills a fox. They harm nothing and the coyotes have killed them off to the point I am not sure I have seen one in at least 10 years or more. I see an occasional rabbit but they are rare due to coyotes

Of course we do not have moose. Somehow a elk made it through here which is completely odd as who knows where it came from.

We have a few mountain lion/cougars and the DNR used to say shoot on site but now teh liberals convinced them to scale that back. The game warden who is a personal friend shot one a few years back and has always told me to kill on site. Thankfully all I have seen is pictures of dead ones. She will never ticket me for doing what needs done.

How about two of the animals that are many times associated with your state...wolves and gophers?

Fox I still put in the category of shoot on sight here. I have chickens and they are not going to be on the dinner plate for a fox. Fox, coyote, coon, and mink are all gone if I see them.

 

[JustPlainJeff]

We have a company in Delaware that sells kiln-dried hardwood that I've wanted to try; however, won't be as the cost would be higher than even my heating oil for which I paid ~$1126 for ~188 gals. The company is primarily a tree service/landscaping company.

$325 = 1/4 cord
$575 = 1/2 cord
$935 = Full cord

Delivery is free within 20 miles.

Stacking costs an additional:

$90 = 1/4 cord
$165 = 1/2 cord
$310 = Full cord

I know firewood isn't cheap but....wow.

Just OUCH.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I will if they are in my garden. I used to try to be a sportsman about hunting, but gave that up when the pest started eating me out of house and home. Everybody around me has a deer feeder out and none of them grow a garden. They draw them in and I take them out.

I'm not sure about the laws in your state, but in Alaska. The land owner is obligated to fence off their property from wildlife should the wildlife present a problem. Same with live stock. For example: A private property owner is obligated to build fence to keep free range cattle off their property. The Rancher is not.