Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[gggGary]

Sorry to interupt. A quick storm went through last Saturday. Many branches and trees down. One medium branch on our place, helped 5 neighbors clear trees fallen in driveways, larger branches etc. Then went to town and removed some large maple branches from a friend's yard. They did no damage fell on the lawn.
After some limbing, those two women were hauling and stacking about as fast as I could cut!

A pro will remove the tree later.
And about 2/3 cord in the racks.

The 131 pole saw 028 and 044 all saw duty.
Some more to cut and harvest but taking a day off...
A good sized cherry is down in our back woods snapped off 15' up but that can wait till fall.

 

[Lionsfan]

That's a rare bird in v12 format. Should have been 2 v6 bolted together. Very versatile engines. Last few I messed with were out of 60 metric ton haul trucks. 12v92 engines. Only ever messed with one 16v149 series and the engine ended up being scrapped, unfortunately and was replaced with a mtu.

Nope, V12 is a one piece block. V-16's were 2 V-8's bolted together.

Never touched a 149, but there were some in service in my area not too long ago.

MTU's are our current workhorses. Nothing can touch them for the power/ weight ratio, reliability or efficiency.

 

[Sidecarflip]

2 stroke Yamaha's run best at a constant (rated) rpm which is why there were popular in crane and power generation applications. In a truck or bus where the rpm varies, not so much. I remember stopping at the now long gone Union 76 Truckstop at M59 and 23 north on my way to Flint to deliver a load of levelled sheet steel to GM and pulled in next to a Peterbuilt with an inordinately long hood and I got to looking at it as it was chopped and the hood was frenched (louvered) as well and pulling a set of B train tanks ( which are illegal in Michigan now). Was gonna get breakfast (had dang good cakes and eggs there and as I was getting out of my extended hood Western Star the owner came out and I asked him what he had under the hood and he showed me.

It was 16V Detroit he had bought from a hospital that was being demolished in north Detroit and he stuffed it into the conventional Pete and chopped the cab and sleeper as well. it was actually a pair of 475 Detroits, blocks mated together and crank flanges bolted. It had 4 turbo's and and 4 blowers and being the curious person I am, instead of having breakfast, I followed him up 23 which is an uphill climb for a couple miles and he left me and my cranked up 3406 in the dust. Very impressive unit. I'm sure he was grossing every bit of 163 thousand pounds, probably more and I was pulling a spread with a partial load, maybe 65 grand GVW. Sure he never crossed a scale, he had to be over gross on his steer, even empty.

 

[rarefish383]

well, maybe one or two of your lil digger ~ ?

Sadly, I wasn't real big on pics back then. I had some real nice Mopars. The only pick of the dragster is the day I brought it home with no engine and trans in it.

 

[sean donato]

Nope, V12 is a one piece block. V-16's were 2 V-8's bolted together.

Never touched a 149, but there were some in service in my area not too long ago.

MTU's are our current workhorses. Nothing can touch them for the power/ weight ratio, reliability or efficiency.

Haven't worked on hardly any 2000 or 4000 series mtu. Replaced one in a containerized genset for sunbelt. Old one kicked a rod out of the block. It was kinda an odd duck, was rebuilt by a mtu dealer and failed pretty quickly. Sunbelt didn't want that dealer working on it again, and we ended up doing the work.

 

[rarefish383]

Cat made a lot of v12 engines over the years, so it's difficult to decern what could have been in your friends truck. Also your blower calculations aren't nessisarrily correct. The 2 stroke Detroit series of engines relied in the blowers just to run, being a uniflow design, they don't use the crankcase like a loop scavenged 2 steoke to force air into the cylinder. Basically they had no way to get air into the cylinder without a positive displacement blower. Knowing this, Detroit did indeed size the blowers accordingly, but depending on the hp level, turbos were often added for higher airflow. On the larger v series engine it's was common for twin blower and turbo applications. Those same 6-71 engines would break the little drive shaft going to the blower and wouldn't start. Was a fairly common issue back in the day. Most the old diesel grunts I know kept a few on hand in the shop and on their service trucks.
On since a 4 stroke diesel doesn't need the blower (assuming maturally aspirated design) the blower was used just the same as a turbo, more air= more fuel to add= more power. Diesels require substantially more air to burn efficiently then gas engines and typically can run much higher boost levels. Realistically it could have been a 500 cubic inch engine and still been able to take advantage of twin blowers, and have more power and better efficiency.
I would be very curious to know what specific engine your buddy had in his truck.
Edit, thinking about it, my best guess would be a 3412, 27L engine. Had a pretty narrow V design, I believe they would fit, never seen a blower model, they were all single or twin turbo.

Last time I talked to him he was homeless, living on some ones yacht in Florida, for keeping it clean. He was day trading and wanted me to invest with him. Actually, he called again and was doing better. He was involved with a company that made a Fuel cell engine. They had a nice web site and had an engine that had been running for years. He was/is a very talented individual. He just always chased the bird in the bush.

 

[rarefish383]

Took down a big Oak for a friend over the weekend. Went back yesterday and loaded up the wood, started splitting and stacking today. Found a cute little bug setting up a rack for the firewood.

 

[GrizG]

Between yesterday and today (Monday/Tuesday) I spent about 10.5 hours removing hazard and fallen trees and pruning others on the rail trail. This as there are about 220 bicyclists scheduled to ride down that trail Wednesday as part of Parks and Trails New York's Cycle the Hudson Valley. All in all it went well... I've done so much tree work on the trail that I don't think a new unique challenge could present itself... only variants of things I've already dealt with. Anyhow, I had another idiot human encounter...

A live tree of about 10" DBH uprooted near one of the cement caves and was leaning against a boulder such that the tree lay pretty much horizontal across the trail about 10' above the ground. The top was up against trees on the opposite side of the trail. I cleaned up the brush with my Stihl HT131 pole pruner and left the brush on the trail to protect it from the tree when it came down (compacted stone dust) and to show that the trail was closed at that point. My truck was blocking the trail to the north and obviously a saw was running...

I took a good look up and down the trail and no users were coming. I used the pole pruner to cut the tree off as due to boulders, trees, and a flooded mine it was in a bad spot to use a chainsaw. The butt of the stump and trunk were touching and holding the tree in place but it was fully cut off... a slight breeze or nudge would drop it. All of the sudden a guy on a bike appears and he was going fast... He jumps off the bike and starts climbing through the brush. I yelled at him repeatedly to stop and get back as the tree was cut off. The response I got was "I'll take my changes" as he kept going. Once he cleared I checked the trail again and used the pole pruner to nudge it... it went right down. That is probably a gene pool that should be terminated but happily it didn't happen on my shift... I'm thinking trigger happy armed guards on both sides of the work zone are needed as ropes, barrier poles, signs, trucks and even yelling at people have failed over the years.

 

[WoodAbuser]

Between yesterday and today (Monday/Tuesday) I spent about 10.5 hours removing hazard and fallen trees and pruning others on the rail trail. This as there are about 220 bicyclists scheduled to ride down that trail Wednesday as part of Parks and Trails New York's Cycle the Hudson Valley. All in all it went well... I've done so much tree work on the trail that I don't think a new unique challenge could present itself... only variants of things I've already dealt with. Anyhow, I had another idiot human encounter...

A live tree of about 10" DBH uprooted near one of the cement caves and was leaning against a boulder such that the tree lay pretty much horizontal across the trail about 10' above the ground. The top was up against trees on the opposite side of the trail. I cleaned up the brush with my Stihl HT131 pole pruner and left the brush on the trail to protect it from the tree when it came down (compacted stone dust) and to show that the trail was closed at that point. My truck was blocking the trail to the north and obviously a saw was running...

I took a good look up and down the trail and no users were coming. I used the pole pruner to cut the tree off as due to boulders, trees, and a flooded mine it was in a bad spot to use a chainsaw. The butt of the stump and trunk were touching and holding the tree in place but it was fully cut off... a slight breeze or nudge would drop it. All of the sudden a guy on a bike appears and he was going fast... He jumps off the bike and starts climbing through the brush. I yelled at him repeatedly to stop and get back as the tree was cut off. The response I got was "I'll take my changes" as he kept going. Once he cleared I checked the trail again and used the pole pruner to nudge it... it went right down. That is probably a gene pool that should be terminated but happily it didn't happen on my shift... I'm thinking trigger happy armed guards on both sides of the work zone are needed as ropes, barrier poles, signs, trucks and even yelling at people have failed over the years.

The saying "you can't fix stupid" comes to mind.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Back to mowing today,

and I've got a LOT more to mow there.

SR

 

[singinwoodwackr]

Back to mowing today,

and I've got a LOT more to mow there.

SR

Looks like you could use some livestock

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Looks like you could use some livestock

No thanks, this actually makes me money!

SR

 

[singinwoodwackr]

No thanks, this actually makes me money!

SR

Do you bail it and sell?

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Do you bail it and sell?

No, I get paid to cut it...

SR

 

[singinwoodwackr]

No, I get paid to cut it...

SR

Even better

 

[chipper1]

Back to mowing today,

and I've got a LOT more to mow there.

SR

Nice.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

No, I get paid to cut it...

SR

And this is how you get mow money

 

[chipper1]

And this is how you get mow money

Yeah, just hope he don't get "Robbed" lol.

 

[chipper1]

Loaded this guy up, more reverse scrounging. Loaded another guy too, but took a short video instead of a picture .
Guy had a sweet truck, had a dirty dirtymax in it. Mulberry and hard maple mainly.

 

[mountainguyed67]

From the trail I helped clear two weekends ago.