Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[MechanicMatt]

Had one of the shottiest days at work in a long time

Got crap news from the Dr visit this morning, went into work and just dealt with BS after BS after BS

Day ended with me telling the used car manager, “one day I’m just gonna say fook his job and knock your teeth out so you learn to talk properly to people”. My boss was standing next to him. He actually didn’t discipline me, told the guy “Matt’s had a shotty day and you need to change your tone”

Then at dinner….

Actually had a nice refreshing conversation with the usda guy about governments being asinine and not knowing anything

Told me in 5 years the Ash tree will be nothing more than a memory

Great conversation about bow hunting

Our two wives were talking kid stuff

It’s amazing, after a **** day at work, God puts a guy you can connect with at different levels in your path to help you “reset” so your weekend isn’t ruined

 

[chipper1]

We have used a very similar light with some made in USA some made in China. Needless to say we had 2 of the chinese ones catch on fire while installed....

That's no good.
What USA made ones did you find, I haven't seen any.

 

[chipper1]

Had one of the shottiest days at work in a long time

Got crap news from the Dr visit this morning, went into work and just dealt with BS after BS after BS

Day ended with me telling the used car manager, “one day I’m just gonna say fook his job and knock your teeth out so you learn to talk properly to people”. My boss was standing next to him. He actually didn’t discipline me, told the guy “Matt’s had a shotty day and you need to change your tone”

Then at dinner….

Actually had a nice refreshing conversation with the DSDA guy about governments being asinine and not knowing anything

Told me in 5 years the Ash tree will be nothing more than a memory

Great conversation about bow hunting

Our two wives were talking kid stuff

It’s amazing, after a **** day at work, God puts a guy you can connect with at different levels in your path to help you “reset” so your weekend isn’t ruined

Bummer about your day, good thing for the weekend .
Ash trees are everywhere up here, not sure if the EAB will continue to terrorize them or what, but they are very plentiful again .

 

[chipper1]

Square filing glitch!

I square filed the chains on two saws I brought up to the cabin. I thought I did them both exactly the same. My little ported 261 cut like a light saber, my more powerful ported 462 seemed to struggle to cut. If you dogged it in, it cut just fine, but it was not self-feeding and did not feel nearly as nice as the 261.

I checked the raker depth and trust me, there was no problem there.

After careful examination, I decided to try something. I re-filed the chain making sure the tilt the file was 45*. Walla! The 462 now cuts like a light saber also!

Mind you, the difference between what I did initially and what I did to correct the problem was VERY MINOR, but the difference is performance was GREAT! The side plate still had some angle to it (before I refiled), just not quite as much, but the additional bit of angle made a big difference in how it self-feeds.

So, if anyone square files their chain and has lackluster performance for no apparent reason, check to make sure this is not the problem.

IMO, nothing feels better (when cutting) than a sharp self-feeding chain! You just touch branches, and they fall off as if you were using a light saber!

Awesome you figured it out.
Cant wait to get the shop finished and my grinders set up.
I've had the corner slightly high before, acted just as you described. Two of my favorite things about square, how nicely it feeds, how smooth it is; if I had to add a third, it would be how much nicer it is to clean out the corner when falling.

 

[MechanicMatt]

Square filing glitch!

I square filed the chains on two saws I brought up to the cabin. I thought I did them both exactly the same. My little ported 261 cut like a light saber, my more powerful ported 462 seemed to struggle to cut. If you dogged it in, it cut just fine, but it was not self-feeding and did not feel nearly as nice as the 261.

I checked the raker depth and trust me, there was no problem there.

After careful examination, I decided to try something. I re-filed the chain making sure the tilt the file was 45*. Walla! The 462 now cuts like a light saber also!

Mind you, the difference between what I did initially and what I did to correct the problem was VERY MINOR, but the difference is performance was GREAT! The side plate still had some angle to it (before I refiled), just not quite as much, but the additional bit of angle made a big difference in how it self-feeds.

So, if anyone square files their chain and has lackluster performance for no apparent reason, check to make sure this is not the problem.

IMO, nothing feels better (when cutting) than a sharp self-feeding chain! You just touch branches, and they fall off as if you were using a light saber!

Love that little 261

You know, that 261, 036, 044 and the not “black” hybrid is all you need

 

[MustangMike]

Love that little 261

You know, that 261, 036, 044 and the not “black” hybrid is all you need

You're forgetting about my milling ... need my 660s for that!

I do have a nice collection of good running saws!

Years of collecting saws and parts, and contacts with some good builders really helps!

I also got several saws by fixing other saws. One tree guy brought me 8 dead saws in one day. I fixed and modified 4 of them and asked if he wanted to pay me for parts and labor or just give me the other saws and the others were mine. Fixed and sold three and kept a beat up 066 that came back to life nicely! Was a lot of work, but I made some money and ended up with a free saw.

But I'm the only one who has touched the 044, it was my first Stihl saw and I bought it new in 92. I've also done the work on some of my 066/660s but 3 other builders have also done work on some of my 066/660s, and I have a 661 built by another builder.

 

[Squareground3691]

Had one of the shottiest days at work in a long time

Got crap news from the Dr visit this morning, went into work and just dealt with BS after BS after BS

Day ended with me telling the used car manager, “one day I’m just gonna say fook his job and knock your teeth out so you learn to talk properly to people”. My boss was standing next to him. He actually didn’t discipline me, told the guy “Matt’s had a shotty day and you need to change your tone”

Then at dinner….

Actually had a nice refreshing conversation with the usda guy about governments being asinine and not knowing anything

Told me in 5 years the Ash tree will be nothing more than a memory

Great conversation about bow hunting

Our two wives were talking kid stuff

It’s amazing, after a **** day at work, God puts a guy you can connect with at different levels in your path to help you “reset” so your weekend isn’t ruined

I hear ya brother, that’s what the weekends are for , get ya some

 

[Squareground3691]

You're forgetting about my milling ... need my 660s for that!

I do have a nice collection of good running saws!

Years of collecting saws and parts, and contacts with some good builders really helps!

I also got several saws by fixing other saws. One tree guy brought me 8 dead saws in one day. I fixed and modified 4 of them and asked if he wanted to pay me for parts and labor or just give me the other saws and the others were mine. Fixed and sold three and kept a beat up 066 that came back to life nicely! Was a lot of work, but I made some money and ended up with a free saw.

But I'm the only one who has touched the 044, it was my first Stihl saw and I bought it new in 92. I've also done the work on some of my 066/660s but 3 other builders have also done work on some of my 066/660s, and I have a 661 built by another builder.

Yea Mike, got some newly ported saws need some break in time, just need to find the time now to do it , looking forward to cooler temps,

 

[Squareground3691]

Bummer about your day, good thing for the weekend .
Ash trees are everywhere up here, not sure if the EAB will continue to terrorize them or what, but they are very plentiful again .

Hopefully they thrive and grow, unfortunately my area the Ash trees are decimated,

 

[sean donato]

Found it.
Looked them up and found a video. There's a link for a 12 pack. They look pretty good, but it seems that the biggest problem guys are having is they dont last very long.

here's the brand I was looking at
Limited-time deal: 10-Pack 8ft LED Shop Light Fixture - 90W T8 Integrated LED Tube Light - 6500K 12000LM V-Shape Linkable - High Output - Clear Cover - Plug and Play - 270 Degree Lighting for Garage, Shop, Barn https://a.co/d/j2ujbwE

I'll look for that other brand. Thanks.

 

[sean donato]

Only ash tree I've seen recently is down at my in-law place. Growing between the house and ac unit. next spring I'm gonna dig it up and plant it somewhere else.

 

[Lee192233]

We have ash saplings everywhere. For a couple years before the big trees died they produced a ton of seeds because they're under stress. I'm hoping that they develop a resistance to the beetle eventually. It won't be in our lifetimes but one can hope. Here's a study from Penn State that seems to offer a glimmer of hope.
https://www.psu.edu/news/research/s...es-may-hold-key-saving-multiple-species-trees

 

[JimR]

Hopefully they thrive and grow, unfortunately my area the Ash trees are decimated,

My little Ash trees are doing pretty good on my property. A lot of the bigger ones are on the way out or already dead.

 

[JimR]

Had one of the shottiest days at work in a long time

Got crap news from the Dr visit this morning, went into work and just dealt with BS after BS after BS

Day ended with me telling the used car manager, “one day I’m just gonna say fook his job and knock your teeth out so you learn to talk properly to people”. My boss was standing next to him. He actually didn’t discipline me, told the guy “Matt’s had a shotty day and you need to change your tone”

Then at dinner….

Actually had a nice refreshing conversation with the usda guy about governments being asinine and not knowing anything

Told me in 5 years the Ash tree will be nothing more than a memory

Great conversation about bow hunting

Our two wives were talking kid stuff

It’s amazing, after a **** day at work, God puts a guy you can connect with at different levels in your path to help you “reset” so your weekend isn’t ruined

At least you had a positive ending for your day where you could relax a bit. Today so many people in Society just plain s-ck. Your used car manager needs to go.

 

[Lee192233]

@H-Ranch I did as you said and deleted my Facebook account. Now what to do with my extra time? Oh yeah, be productive!

Glad to be done with that mind melting social media platform. I'll stick with you guys, at least I will actually learn something. I will miss marketplace and some of the groups I was on. It just sucks sooo much time.

Now I'm going to pick apples and dig a french drain.

 

[sean donato]

@H-Ranch I did as you said and deleted my Facebook account. Now what to do with my extra time? Oh yeah, be productive!

Glad to be done with that mind melting social media platform. I'll stick with you guys, at least I will actually learn something. I will miss marketplace and some of the groups I was on. It just sucks sooo much time.

Now I'm going to pick apples and dig a french drain.

Other then market place, I don't do anything with wastbook

 

[bob kern]

At least you had a positive ending for your day where you could relax a bit. Today so many people in Society just plain s-ck. Your used car manager needs to go.

Reminds me of a jerk I worked around a while back. I finally looked at another CO worker standing beside him and said it's been years since I've knocked someone out but I've not forgotten how!
Probably wasn't exactly taking the high road, but the jerk calmed way down after that so...........

 

[djg james]

I've got a little bit of the CAD bug. I saw a 660 in 'good' shape being sold for $700. First off, is that a good price? If the piston after inspection, is scored, what reduction in price would you ask for? How much does an AM piston or P&C go for? How do you tell if a saw is a clone?

I really don't need it as I have a 046M to work on and it's 1-1/2 - 2 Hrs from me. I hate to drive all that way and it not be in very good shape. Would be a waste of time and gas.

 

[MustangMike]

I saw a 660 in 'good' shape being sold for $700. First off, is that a good price?

Not cheap, but nothing is anymore. Look for a SN on the case to see if it is original. Asian saws will not have a SN. Everything is based on condition.

Check if it idles well, has good compression, responds well and pulls in the cut.

Often minor stuff like spark plugs, air or fuel filters, or tank vents will degrade performance.

Usually, you can clean up a cylinder (that is the expensive part, and OEM is best), see Randy's excellent video on how. The bigger thing to check is if the bearings are good ... that is a bigger job to fix. Also, the crank bearing is critically important as it (alone) cannot be replaced w/o getting a whole new crank.

You can get a Meteor piston (on EBay) shipped for less than $50 and they are just as good as OEM.

Everything is based on condition, but a scored cylinder will substantially reduce the value due to the work to fix it.

 

[MustangMike]

Removing transfer from chainsaw cylinders: