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I will put insulation under and on the sides of the slab . Required here anyway as is a vapor barrier. They frown on any type of drains where autos or power equipment are stored .

The way Prodex works is it pretty much seals the inside like an envelope the warm air never gets to the metal to condensate. Also helps control radiant heat gain in summer . And the air circulates much like rafters in the house . You need the airspace for air to circulate against the roof .
is that just because you won't have eves to vent the roof? I left the gap more for fear of trapping moisture between the insulation and tin then for roof venting purposes. Put 20' of ridge vent in the peek of the roof and going with vented soffit all around. The wall cavitys do go up into the "attic" (not really an attic) space, so I guess they could follow the same principal.
 
I will put insulation under and on the sides of the slab . Required here anyway as is a vapor barrier. They frown on any type of drains where autos or power equipment are stored .

The way Prodex works is it pretty much seals the inside like an envelope the warm air never gets to the metal to condensate. Also helps control radiant heat gain in summer . And the air circulates much like rafters in the house . You need the airspace for air to circulate against the roof .
I used some prodex in my cabin.

It's a cathedral ceiling and I needed a way to introduce venting, insulation and Vapor sealing all in one 8 inch cavity. At the top of the blocking between each rafter, I drilled 3 one inch holes. I then nailed 1x2 furring strips along the rafter to create a spacer for the 2 inch foam board to rest aginst creating an air gap. Then I cut prodex 4 inches wider than the rafter and used that to create an vapor and slight insulating value to make a totally sealed off rafter bay.

I don't use the cabin in the winter, so it works just fine for the times I do use it. It keeps it actually very warm and no hot air hits the roof. After a frost, the frost stays on the roof even with a hot fire going on in the inside.

I had no idea just how hard and labor intensive it was to insulate a cathedral correctly. I was going to just spray foam it, but after my experience using it on the floor, I wanted something different.

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Pine is approximately 1 R per inch, not even close to what most insulation is. If you have nothing else, it's better than nothing, but I'd say it's far from quite well.
Just looked it up, about 1R per inch.
https://safewarmdry.com/my-column-on-castanet/all-about-wood-chip-insulation/#:~:text=If you compare the R,little or no thermal benefits.
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The short walls on the lean-to area of my barn are only 4" with a 2x4 girt on them, I have 1.5" of foil faced isopoly, that's approximately R-9 based on 6 R per inch. Then I have another half inch standing upright, then a 2x4 wall with r-11. Overall that's 23 R for 7", that's on my thinnest wall. In that 12x24 I had no problem heating it with a 1500 watt electric heater, when the main is heated I should be able to easily heat it with 750-1000 watt, if I use electric.
I would have liked to have at least 3/8 on the whole exterior as a thermal break, and at least an inch under the concrete 4' from the perimeter, and an inch on the outside edge of the concrete inside the forms/skirt board. Unfortunately we/you can't always get what you want :guitar:, but I try sometimes lol.
Shoot, I'm just hoping to get r20 till everything is finished up.
 
Road trip…
We shall see if scotus has any balls this term…
We just had an illegal living in the Quality Inn in Revere MA. arrested for having an AR-15 and $750,000 worth of drugs. He was living here courtesy of our Governor using taxpayer dollars to house and feed the SOB. Thirteen more days before the exports begin.
 
Sawdust is a VG insulator; they used to use it to preserve ice back when folks needed ice squares for their ice boxes.

The problem is that it is NOT fire retardant, which is why most building codes will require real insulation. In fact, my favorite fire starter is wood noodles.

So, I would not recommend it for any building that you sleep in.
Have you ever seen the haybale houses that they build up in Canada. It is basically a post and beam house with haybales in between the beams for insulation. I think I posted pictures of them many years ago about them.
 
Told my boy I wanted him to be able to see me struggle thru the process of building mine, so he wouldknow he could build whateverhe wants. He said what he learned was that he wants to make enough money so he doesn't have to :laugh: . I don't blame him, but he'll learn about the realities of life soon enough.
My son said that same thing when I tried showing him how to fix or build things. When he bought his first condo he found out the cost to hire contractors in Boston. He started calling his younger sister to ask her how to fix things. She was already doing repairs over at the farm we own doing her own plumbing, wiring, painting, fixing old windows and whatever else needed to be done.
 
My son said that same thing when I tried showing him how to fix or build things. When he bought his first condo he found out the cost to hire contractors in Boston. He started calling his younger sister to ask her how to fix things.
Necessity is the Mother of Invention! When the price of fuel oil tripled overnight (Jimmy Carter was President) I installed an airtight woodstove made from a 55-gallon drum and learned how to use a chainsaw (my first father-in-law was a tree guy). Wood was transported home in the back of my Pinto station wagon! I split everything by hand ... did not get a hydraulic splitter till I was in my 60s.

When I needed a larger house, but could not afford one, I purchased a building lot (w/o BOH approval), got the approval, rented an excavator to do the footings, did the foundation, bought a modular ranch and got my "Homeowner Electrical License" (they are NLA) to wire downstairs and connect to the modular. I also did all the plumbing, which my brother (a PE) certified. I did the electric and plumbing after work using Coleman lanterns for light. I called this project my second education!
 
Never know what you're gonna see at a Dollar General in January!:lol: View attachment 1231962He drives that mower from 3 miles away.

There is someone at my work who's car was totaled after hitting a deer last about 2 years ago so he started driving his mower to work but he lives in town. He still drives his mower to work whenever he can, even in the winter.
 
Necessity is the Mother of Invention! When the price of fuel oil tripled overnight (Jimmy Carter was President) I installed an airtight woodstove made from a 55-gallon drum and learned how to use a chainsaw (my first father-in-law was a tree guy). Wood was transported home in the back of my Pinto station wagon! I split everything by hand ... did not get a hydraulic splitter till I was in my 60s.

When I needed a larger house, but could not afford one, I purchased a building lot (w/o BOH approval), got the approval, rented an excavator to do the footings, did the foundation, bought a modular ranch and got my "Homeowner Electrical License" (they are NLA) to wire downstairs and connect to the modular. I also did all the plumbing, which my brother (a PE) certified. I did the electric and plumbing after work using Coleman lanterns for light. I called this project my second education!
Here we can do our own electric . No test or paperwork just need an electrical permit and have it inspected by the building inspector. Plumbing different story your suppose to get a certificate from the town after taking a test and pay your fee. Guess the plumbers union has more pull than the electricians.
 
My in-laws old farm house had newspaper in the west walls and nothing at all in the east.
That reminded me of another story about a house remodeling that had newspapers/magazines used as insulation. While going through papers pulled from the walls a complete copy of Action Comics #1, the very first comic book featuring Superman was found. Despite the wear and tear from being in the wall for years it was in decent shape and sold for around $1 million.
 
There is someone at my work who's car was totaled after hitting a deer last about 2 years ago so he started driving his mower to work but he lives in town. He still drives his mower to work whenever he can, even in the winter.
Busch is the reason here.:drinking:
 
Pffft. The last guy to drink Busch in Wisconsin was probably me, and that was in 2023.
Lol! I can't go to any of my friends houses without being offered that swill. Go to the local convenience store on any night and you'll see at least one guy walking out with a 30 pack. If I'm drinking water for beer it's gonna be Coors Light. I will, however, drink Busch Light if it's offered to me...it's rude to turn down a free beer!:cheers:
 
Lol! I can't go to any of my friends houses without being offered that swill. Go to the local convenience store on any night and you'll see at least one guy walking out with a 30 pack. If I'm drinking water for beer it's gonna be Coors Light. I will, however, drink Busch Light if it's offered to me...it's rude to turn down a free beer!:cheers:
Huh. I never got lost in Wisconsin, I could always follow the trails of Milwaukee's Best cans back to the border.
 
Huh. I never got lost in Wisconsin, I could always follow the trails of Milwaukee's Best cans back to the border.
I think the affinity for Busch products might be a local thing. Manitowoc had a big malt plant for Budweiser that was one of the areas bigger employers until 2011.Screenshot_20250107_170417_Google.jpg
 
Here we can do our own electric . No test or paperwork just need an electrical permit and have it inspected by the building inspector. Plumbing different story your suppose to get a certificate from the town after taking a test and pay your fee. Guess the plumbers union has more pull than the electricians.
Same here in my town in Ma. for wiring but not plumbing. You can also pull your own building permits. The work needs to be inspected like any other building project.
 
We just had an illegal living in the Quality Inn in Revere MA. arrested for having an AR-15 and $750,000 worth of drugs. He was living here courtesy of our Governor using taxpayer dollars to house and feed the SOB. Thirteen more days before the exports begin.
He'll be out by morning with a fresh, loaded credit card 🤬
 
No company that sells ammo will ship anything to Taxachusetts. Here they require outside vendors to have an ammunition permit to ship here. We are screwed for ordering ammo, powder, primers and most others items online. Many people just go out of State to buy supplies. Also having friends in nearby States helps too. Taxachusetts is now keeping records on all ammo purchases. Walmart stopped selling ammo here a few months ago. This State has gone to shat big time with our illustrious Governor. Her new gun restrictions were put in without any hearings. C U, Next Tuesday is what gunowners call her.
We have a demorat Governess like that here in Maine, but she has not dared to screw too much with guns and ammo as we have a lot of hunters and people from away who pay bucks to come here to hunt deer, bear and moose. I like your code for the one you have in the land of Massholes.
 
Same here in my town in Ma. for wiring but not plumbing. You can also pull your own building permits. The work needs to be inspected like any other building project.
I’ll be pulling the permits first my building . Got another quote this time from Carport Central in NC . Same specs except it has a 65psf snow load rating. $23,190.00 delivered and installed . He recommended not to use Prodex here and to use either foam board or spray foam
 

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