So whadja do today?
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ROLLACOSTA
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1 or 2 for the list
john hervey ,nacton ipswich ,hack ,cheap! very cheap! staff on the rock'n'roll [dole ,welfare] total tosser no insurance imo
perm boy, ipswich ,good arborist but cheap as chips
elite tree services kesgrave, never charges the vat on any feekin job i go to bid against
cut 'n' clear it landscraper woodbridge ,who will tackle trees though only from a bloody great tripple extending ladder cheap no insurance
all the above have buggerd up copious amounts of trees exept perm boy he's a tree hugger
john hervey ,nacton ipswich ,hack ,cheap! very cheap! staff on the rock'n'roll [dole ,welfare] total tosser no insurance imo
perm boy, ipswich ,good arborist but cheap as chips
elite tree services kesgrave, never charges the vat on any feekin job i go to bid against
cut 'n' clear it landscraper woodbridge ,who will tackle trees though only from a bloody great tripple extending ladder cheap no insurance
all the above have buggerd up copious amounts of trees exept perm boy he's a tree hugger
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SteveBullman
User Formerly known as stephenbullman
perm boy ROFLMAO
hope he reads this board hehe
hope he reads this board hehe
First job: customer (lonely senior) wants maple retopped. We talk him into drop crotching. I do my thing trying to make good cuts and leave nice laterals. I come down and he wants more off. I tell him that if the tree has no green it can't produce food and he looks at me like I'M the idiot. Take some more off. By this time I'm so P.O.ed that I'm leaving stubs and hanging branches off his clothesline because I give up. Then the boss hands me the pole pruner to reach some dead twigs. Like that is going to help this accident scene. The old guy would have kept us there all day just so he had someone to talk to even if it meant butchering his tree.
Second job: Spruce removal. Neither the customer or the boss was there and it went off with out a hitch. Why did the tree have to come out you may ask? Customers are turf loving morons.
Third job: Re top willow. About twenty 3 year old sprouts are coming out of a two stem trunk that is about 12' tall and 2' dbh. The customer (lonely senior widow) wants it brought right back down to the abomination she has grown to love. Job goes fairly quick (the hack jobs always do.)
Fourth job: Remove one of the oldest spruces in town. The customer (middle aged moron) exclaims that tomorrow morning he'll be able to bring his coffee onto the deck and sit in the sun now. Well gawd*mn why don't we cut every tree down so that you can see the sun no matter where it is in the sky.
The big question: when I started doing this line of work I was a full out hack. Over the years and since I started visiting this site I've had alot of success with trying to do the right things and do what's right for the trees but what in Sam Hill am I supposed to do? If we turned down every customer with a jacka$$ request we would have to turn down every customer period. Looking forward to that utility work so I don't have to deal with the ignorant public... until next summer of course.
Like that is going to help this accident scene. The old guy would have kept us there all day just so he had someone to talk to even if it meant butchering his tree.Second job: Spruce removal. Neither the customer or the boss was there and it went off with out a hitch. Why did the tree have to come out you may ask? Customers are turf loving morons.
Third job: Re top willow. About twenty 3 year old sprouts are coming out of a two stem trunk that is about 12' tall and 2' dbh. The customer (lonely senior widow) wants it brought right back down to the abomination she has grown to love. Job goes fairly quick (the hack jobs always do.)
Fourth job: Remove one of the oldest spruces in town. The customer (middle aged moron) exclaims that tomorrow morning he'll be able to bring his coffee onto the deck and sit in the sun now. Well gawd*mn why don't we cut every tree down so that you can see the sun no matter where it is in the sky.
The big question: when I started doing this line of work I was a full out hack. Over the years and since I started visiting this site I've had alot of success with trying to do the right things and do what's right for the trees but what in Sam Hill am I supposed to do? If we turned down every customer with a jacka$$ request we would have to turn down every customer period. Looking forward to that utility work so I don't have to deal with the ignorant public... until next summer of course.
MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
Sometimes I miss utility work, too.
jkrueger
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Some times I wana go puke after all the macho, my crane is bigger than yours, and I do respect all of everyones moment by moment of the adventure.
Today was one of those days, not like yesterday making a garbage maple into something great to look at.
The whole day on the ground with poles and my selection of Japanese razor tipped snips for very small stuff and Bonsai. Boy, do I hurt from stupping.
tomorrow to climb again and make more big ones a joy to look at.
Jack
Today was one of those days, not like yesterday making a garbage maple into something great to look at.
The whole day on the ground with poles and my selection of Japanese razor tipped snips for very small stuff and Bonsai. Boy, do I hurt from stupping.
tomorrow to climb again and make more big ones a joy to look at.
Jack
Al Smith
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What,today?
More of the industrial electrician type Bs.Tommorrow,what you fellows do every day.I have to take down a 65 ft dead soft maple for my dear old dad[ 84 yrs old].The bull headed old fart would have done it himself,if mother would not have talked him out of it.I will bet a dollar,to a doughnut that he will have to help me buck it into fire wood.If I am luckey,I will have as much grit as the ole man in 29 yrs{none of this is said,with disrespect] Al
More of the industrial electrician type Bs.Tommorrow,what you fellows do every day.I have to take down a 65 ft dead soft maple for my dear old dad[ 84 yrs old].The bull headed old fart would have done it himself,if mother would not have talked him out of it.I will bet a dollar,to a doughnut that he will have to help me buck it into fire wood.If I am luckey,I will have as much grit as the ole man in 29 yrs{none of this is said,with disrespect] Al
Stumper
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Must have been one of those days everywhere. Abusing trees for fun and profit. First job , remove one dead limb from locust I pruned 2 years ago. Lady asked if it needed other pruning and I looked it over and told her-"Honestly , no. Taking the dead limb off is all it needs. Move to the backyard. Lets prune the crabapple again-It looks great but I found 3 small dead branches and raised the fence side with a little tip lightening per her request. Now the neighbors mulberry which she hates-sheared it back to the property line again. job 2. Major raise and overthin 2 globe willows and remove a side off a locust-all so more light can enter the back yard. Plus side-I'm doing this instead of removing the trees.-Yeah! I saved some trees. Negative side-I'm doing lousy pruning that would not be in the tree's best interest -except that it is sparing their lives for a while.Compromises suck but it is part of the game.
Move to the backyard. Lets prune the crabapple again-It looks great but I found 3 small dead branches and raised the fence side with a little tip lightening per her request. Now the neighbors mulberry which she hates-sheared it back to the property line again. job 2. Major raise and overthin 2 globe willows and remove a side off a locust-all so more light can enter the back yard. Plus side-I'm doing this instead of removing the trees.-Yeah! I saved some trees. Negative side-I'm doing lousy pruning that would not be in the tree's best interest -except that it is sparing their lives for a while.Compromises suck but it is part of the game.Down To Earth
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Different game same rules. I cruised 270 acres random plot sampling. Decent amount of swamp and good amount of timber. Running boundrary's took some time. Mature timber, surprised it has not been cut. drove home 2 hrs starring at these eastern yards trees and wondering if there are any arborists in this area? Cant shake it. Will stick with Forestry over customers any day though.
Hope that made sense.
Hope that made sense.
Stumper
One Man Band
Eric, That is a valid question (what pruning is in the tree's best interest?) I think that natural has a lot going for it BUT- we aren't talking about Silviculture where we monitor and 'manage' whole forest systems. I think that when we pull trees out of their 'natural habitat and focus on a single specimen there are things that we can do in the tree's best interest. Early pruning can set the tree up for a storm damage resistant conformation at maturity.Tip reduction on some species is big help in my area for preventing the breakage of major limbs under unseasonable snow loads.. Deadwooding may just be anticipating natural shedding BUT have you noticed an increase in some marginal tree's vigor when major dead limbs are removed letting in more light? I have. Pruning can be in the tree's best interest health-wise.
Good pruning can also enhance the eye appeal of a tree.-which is a human interest. Mis-shaping a tree and reducing its food production capabilities in order to let more light reach the bamboo and tomatoes isn't quite so noble as comformation/preservation pruning or aesthetic enhancement-even if it is preserving the tree by preventing a removal.
Good pruning can also enhance the eye appeal of a tree.-which is a human interest. Mis-shaping a tree and reducing its food production capabilities in order to let more light reach the bamboo and tomatoes isn't quite so noble as comformation/preservation pruning or aesthetic enhancement-even if it is preserving the tree by preventing a removal.
SteveBullman
User Formerly known as stephenbullman
Originally posted by matthias
Ahhhhh, no customers, no problems.
so where were the cones and signs in that pic??
Dadatwins
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The pruning that raises low limbs from overhanging the street so trucks do not hit them causing them to break off. I know all the 'pruning is wounding' yahoo and the leave the tree alone folks will jump up and down but the fact are
1) trees are planted along the streets
2) tree limbs will grow into the roadway
3) cars and trucks drive on the roadway
4) tree limbs that are not pruned back from the roadway will get hit by cars and trucks and break off causing a lot more damage than a proper cut.
My opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Dadatwins
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I know he knows to, but there are a lot that think they know, but really do not know, and maybe if they are told enough times they will know too.
"so where were the cones and signs in that pic??" S.B.
What do you need that crap for? On a low traffic street cones and signs do more harm than good. All the lookie-loo's and rubberneckers are going to drive even slower and some people completely forget how to drive when the have to pass a row of cones. As you can tell I am quite disillusioned with the general public as a whole. If people need signs to tell them there is a 50' boom in the air then maybe they shouldn't be behind the wheel. Hey Rocky, this sarcastic, to Helll with everyone attitude is kinda fun.
What do you need that crap for? On a low traffic street cones and signs do more harm than good. All the lookie-loo's and rubberneckers are going to drive even slower and some people completely forget how to drive when the have to pass a row of cones. As you can tell I am quite disillusioned with the general public as a whole. If people need signs to tell them there is a 50' boom in the air then maybe they shouldn't be behind the wheel. Hey Rocky, this sarcastic, to Helll with everyone attitude is kinda fun.
NeTree
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Today was good...
Until I ran over someone's dog.
And of course... the only one home was the little girl who owned it. Double-
Darn thing ran in between the truck and chipper. At least it didn't suffer- it was quite dead by the time I hit the lights and jumped out to see.
Until I ran over someone's dog.
And of course... the only one home was the little girl who owned it. Double-
Darn thing ran in between the truck and chipper. At least it didn't suffer- it was quite dead by the time I hit the lights and jumped out to see.
MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
Ya need to change yur sig, now.
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