Some sawing, logging and skidding pics and videos ......

[little possum]

Im just a drugstore firewood logger

But the rolled over skidder reminds me of the 3 wheeled fellar bunchers that were across from the house. Bout every 30 minutes the skidder would be up there flipping them back upright. 3 wheels on a hill with trees falling just didnt work for that crew.

 

[Jbevs]

Glad to see this thread again. I was wondering what you were up to down in KY since I had been gone for a while and hadn't seen you post lately. Thanks for all the pics.

 

[tjbier]

Good stuff Sam,
Top 5 thread on AS, IMO. don't care what the haters say.



Slowp, can you clear up the % numbers for me?
I'm not understanding them, 90% is not 90° right? cuz that is straight up.

 

[little possum]

No pictures of that stretched out big rig?

 

[Metals406]

Good stuff Sam,
Top 5 thread on AS, IMO. don't care what the haters say.



Slowp, can you clear up the % numbers for me?
I'm not understanding them, 90% is not 90° right? cuz that is straight up.

If you mean slope/grade. . . Slope is calculated rise and run like a roof, but a little different. Grade is the number of feet of rise per 100' of run.

So a 6% grade, would be 6' of rise in 100' of run. . . A 10% slope is actually rather steep. Some basic guidelines for tracked dozers would be: Dozers should not be operated across slopes (sidehill) greater than 45%, uphill slopes greater than 55%, or downhill on slopes greater
than 75%.

A 2:1 ratio slope, is the same a a 50% grade.

 

[tjbier]

If you mean slope/grade. . . Slope is calculated rise and run like a roof, but a little different. Grade is the number of feet of rise per 100' of run.

So a 6% grade, would be 6' of rise in 100' of run. . . A 10% slope is actually rather steep. Some basic guidelines for tracked dozers would be: Dozers should not be operated across slopes (sidehill) greater than 45%, uphill slopes greater than 55%, or downhill on slopes greater
than 75%.

A 2:1 ratio slope, is the same a a 50% grade.

Ah, that make more sense! I instantly related it to ° and roof pitch, not the same. lol
Thanks.:msp_thumbup:

 

[Slamm]

Here they are loading some 16, 20 and 24 foot "mat logs".

Modest landing.

Some Stuff

A "fail", LOL.

A situation. The hackberry (right) has leaned over onto the maple (left) and I am going to cut both down.

Shows the lean of both trees.

Cut the maple first as it is under the hackberry.

 

[Slamm]

Here the maple has been dropped out from under the hackberry, and the hackberry is standing on its own.

Shows the hackberry being cut and how far over it is leaning.

Here the hackberry is also on the ground.

Why you don't always want to just stand at the stump and watch them go over ............ sometimes they travel a little, LOL.

Another traveler.

Domino'd these. Note the saw in closest tree, which hit the one I'm pointing at, which both of those then dropped on the two hung up (one balancing) in another tree.

All 4 are down.

 

[Slamm]

Here is a healthy landing.

to the right some

Here is the take apart of a forked tree that I didn't want to fall onto a nearby treestand.

Cutting the heavy leaning branch.

Branch down.

Cutting the main stem to go the other way.

Success.

I like to drop several tops inward and make one big brush pile with the butts sticking outward for the skidder driver to more easily see and get. Here is an example. At this point I think I had about 12 trees dropped on top of one another, all with the butts out and tops in.

 

[Slamm]

Here is just some videos, that I took. Nothing special just stuff that happened yesterday.
Here is a forked elm that I want to go away from the nearby skid trail, so we don't have to deal with moving the tops.
1st big stem

2nd littler stem.

Just a maple that went over near the skid trail.

This video just shows Jerry getting that same above maple and adding it to a smaller cotton wood that was also dropped parallel to the skid trail so as to not have to mess with the top. Its just a video to show those that have never seen a skidder run or pull trees.

Using the "big yellow wedge with wheels", LOL.


Here I domino two toward a new "brushpile"

It works nice when you can save a big heavy, to smash down the pile of other tops.

Some maple going over.

 

[Slamm]

Here are my cutting buddies modded 441's with 28" Stihl Lite bars and Full Skip Semi Chisel Stihl chain.

Getting gassed up.

Here was a fun one.

Heres a small one, I could have used a 12" bar on, LOL.

Logs going bye, bye.

 

[Stihlman441]

Nice pics and vids there Sam,i see your giving them Stihl light bars a woork at the refueling area.

I think your PM box is full.

Andrew

 

[medic5050]

441 Questions

Hey Slamm,

I have a 441 as well, and was just wondering how it handles the 28" running full skip, and how the 28" lite balanced compared to the 25".

I agree the 25" feels a little "off" when it comes to the feel of the whole saw.

Nice pics and vids. Really appreciate all of them.

 

[forestryworks]

Some maple going over.

Good thing you didn't park that 4-wheeler any closer!

 

[Slamm]

Nice pics and vids there Sam,i see your giving them Stihl light bars a woork at the refueling area.

I think your PM box is full.

Andrew

Andrew, I cleaned some more messages out. (the saw is headed toward Terry now).

As to the Lite bars, I am treating them just like the regular bars. That said, I do or did have one issue with one of them, but I don't know if it was due to handling abuse, heat or what but the aluminum panel has ripples in it, and I'm not sure how it happened. I'm going to talk with me dealer and see about it. That said it could very well, be due to the way I treat bars and if that is the case I don't fault the bar at all, as I use them as baseball bats, LOL. I'm not sure when or how it happened, I was cutting and noticed that it "slowed" down a bit, so I checked the chain, it wasn't really dull, but I sharpened it and thats when I noticed these two ripples. I did get the bar stuck in a tree and it smashed it pretty hard going over, so I don't know it that did it or what? The bars have equal cutting time and similar abuse on them and the other one is fine, so I think it was that "bad" pinch with a pretty good smash awards that rippled this bar. I'll take some photos of it. All I have to do is sand the ripples down and proceed with normal use, as the rails are straight and it tracks straight, so don't know why or how it happened.

That said .................... I can say this I will probably never cut much professionally without a 28" Lite bar on any of my saws, unless I am using a shorter bar for bucking up or something, these things are amazing. By comparison or simply "feel" its like holding only the powerhead and no bar has been mounted on it yet, most any 70cc saw it going to feel like a toy with it on, LOL. I do more over head cutting now than I ever did as a result, LOL. I'd rather cut with the 28" Lite bar than with a regular 20" bar, even if its just something little, they are that nice.

I don't know that a regular homeowner type human would ever see much benefit "financially" from the use of a Lite bar, but the "professional" or someone who has the opportunity to complete more work and get paid more as a result should really see and improvement in production from it.

As to the refueling position, the bars don't seem to mind that minor stuff, LOL.

Sam

 

[Slamm]

Good thing you didn't park that 4-wheeler any closer!

LOL, it was the last tree of the day and I couldn't stop myself from cutting it, so I just jumped off and whacked it down. I was pretty safe, the tree was just bowed a little and the top just pushed it back some, as it had a couple of little elms trees to smash down on its way to the ground. I hate elm trees and do my best to provide a free "forest stand improvement service" by aiming for them. It helps me practice my placement accuracy and gets rid the tsand of worthless trees, LOL.

Sam

 

[Slamm]

Got a couple of new 441R C - M-Tronics whatever you want to call them ........ a wrapped model 441 with the M-Tronics package.

It will be about a week before, I get them modded as Terry is working on some other ones that need to be done before mine, and I have other Modded 441's to choose from. Not going to start the saws until after they are modded. Opened one of the boxes to make a Flippy Cap instructional video and take a look see, and then I left the saw on the sofa in the living room. About half hour later, Taylor my youngest, 4 years old, came into the office and said, "Daddy, I have a special suprise for you come and look." Now bear in mind, I had shown her how to take the clutch cover off and put it back on and tighten it with the provided scrench, she was also spinning the chain tensioner in and out, as she thought it was a neat toy, anyways, I went into the living room and found this:

Yep, she put her little stickers all over the clutch cover, super manly, I know, LOL. So we'll, now provide testing of sticker adhesives and material, as it relates to logging endeavors.

Here is Colton's take on the Flippy Caps:


Here is my video of some of the features of the 441R M-Tronics:

Also ordered two more 28" Stihl Lite bars, as you can never have enough of a good thing. Going to see what I can get for the mob of regular 28" steel bars I have laying around, as I won't likely ever use them if I don't have too.

Sam

 

[Stihlman441]

Nice art work there Sam,thanks for the vids and pics you have done well.

 

[banshee67]

Here is Colton's take on the Flippy Caps:

LMAO "really, theres people out there who cant do that successfully?" LOL!!

i like the modded clutch cover as well, u better leave those stickers on too..

 

[forestryworks]

That thing looks good with a wrap handle on it. Thanks for sharing.

Wonder if the M-tronic version could suit my needs? I cut from 3,500 - 8,500'+ elevation here. Even higher if I go to NM or CO.