Some sawing, logging and skidding pics and videos ......

[Slamm]

Slamm, nice operation you have going there, maybe try laying the logs that need bucked up on some poles that way its a little easy to buck them without getting the chain near the dirt, thats what we do with our cherry and oak that the boss comes to the woods and marks out for us

Wow, I could never take that much time to do all of that, I cut probably 250 really nice White Oaks on this job and stacking them on poles would be way too, time consuming, plus half of the log already has dirt on it from skidding in many cases. So I would think your net gain wouldn't be that great.

I/we just use "skilled" cutting techniques that keep the cutters always pushing the dirt out and not digging the dirt into and through the wood...... Oh and we use Stihl Semi-Chisel, which honestly you can hit a good amount of dirt and still keep on cutting pretty good. Karen is really careful about hitting the dirt below the log when going through, as she hasn't mastered sharpening her own chain yet, LOL.

Sam

 

[palogger]

it was just a suggestion, but really its not that time consuming just have one or two ploes laid out and when you bring the logs out just drive over them and drop the hitch on them instead of the ground

 

[Slamm]

I questioned posting this video as it has a few things bad about it:

One the chain on the 361 is/was dull, as Karen had just finished bucking up those logs earlier and we just jumped on the ATV and road around looking for some easy cleanup trees to cut and count or find any that might still be in the woods.

Two the trees are small and don't at all represent what I've been cutting, as they we were just cleaning up the woods today and I figured the landowner would question my salvaging ability if I didn't take these two little white oaks that a storm or something had blown over right by the trail.

Three I am caught using my favorite cutting technique for cutting wood in a bind or possible bind. I cut with the top of the bar pointed towards me, vertical and backwards, sort of. I have several reasons why it isn't really very dangerous, and its quite practical, but the safety police will get me anyways and you can't argure with the safety police and get away with it .... ever, so I won't bother.

Four, I also stand on the tree I'm topping, which I do a lot of too. I started riding the log down from the beginning of my little career and other than a few exciting moments it has been a pretty uneventful technique.

My dislaimer is don't ever, ever cut like this or do anything you see in this video, in fact it is an example of what not to do.

Now the funny part is there are stinging insects in it at the end, LOL. There is a rotten log under the bottom of that last top I'm cutting, and they got mad. It was yellow jackets and they stung me 15 times, as best as we could count. I held my position until it was fully topped as I knew there wasn't any coming back, but it is kinda funny. I kill the first one and indicate this moment on the video, then you can see me start to dance a little while I'm finishing that top, then I performed my standard rip the saw out of the pinch, LOL.



Later,

Sam

 

[Slamm]

it was just a suggestion, but really its not that time consuming just have one or two ploes laid out and when you bring the logs out just drive over them and drop the hitch on them instead of the ground

But we pull out around 30-50+ a day sometimes 100 with two skidders. I don't have that many poles, LOL.

I see your point if you have more workers, but we can't do it that way. Right now, we are cutting large amount of trees, and then skid those trees out with two skidders running, and then timber buyer marks his lengths once or twice a week.

This next job the timber buyer wants us to maybe just pull every dang log out and fill the whole 100 acre field up and then he will show up and mark them, when he can. I like this because its days of cutting followed by days of skidding in a very target rich environment, LOL, which makes for great skidding, my favorite, and then the dreaded day of hours and hours of bucking up logs.

Sam

 

[Slamm]

Well two days ago, I met the timber buyer on the new job. They are still cutting corn, but I can cut for a week or so before, I need to land anything in the field. There is 1/2 mile of river front, and then a really thick 30-40 acre stand of Soft Maple.

We didn't walk the place much just had a quick look over. No hills and really short skids. Once we get going it should really add up.

This is the direction we will be cutting, its a half mile to the end. The river front is about 100 yards wide.

Here is the river and a barge:

I could skid driftwood, LOL, it would be light.

Here is the Ohio River:

Here is a operation by our house. The local paper mill bought this timber 2,500 acres and they have a huge Prentice skidder and two green skidders like the one pictured, pulling the trees. The knuckle boom is loading the trucks and they have a hot saw cutting to length. There are two mexican migets I'm not being mean here, they are literally less than 4'6" tall carrying huge Huskies, cutting the trees that are too big for the HydroAx they have cutting them.

Should I use this same thread for the new job or start a new thread?

Later,

Sam

 

[chopperfreak2k1]

naw, keep this one goin i say. as always cool pix Sam!

 

[Metals406]

This is a great thread!!

Looking forward to more. . . As far as the wasp/hornet thing, it pays to carry a few of those wasp killer cans -- they spray like 30'. Go to the truck or quad, grab spray, kill offending bugs, keep on working.

 

[Farmertim]

I agree--this is a great thread. Thanks for sharing Sam I have really been enjoying it--too bad about the 441, but like you said hopefully you will have two going soon.

Tim

 

[Slamm]

We and another possibly new cutter and skidder driver cut a little on Saturday morning to see how he could handle a saw. He did good.
He brought his 5 tank old 362 out ....... we cut a little with it, as I was interested in how these new ones work. The rakers were too low then, and it wasn't a good showing at this point. We'll try it again once its broke in.

The new job is beyond the tip of those barges.

Had to get some I-beams for a bridge we are making on our place so I didn't get started until about 1pm. This is the easiest logging I've ever got to do. There is maybe 10-15' elevation change on the whole job, other than some dry backwater gullys.
I used a woodsported 066 that has an 064 fuel tank on it, 28" Stihl bar and Carlton Semi-Chisel, Full skip Chain (because it was laying there). All of the photos this round are of this saw with a 28" bar on. I cut and topped 34 trees and got stuck once in all of it, and it was pretty bad on a big top that twisted, but other than that it was a nice smooth day. The river had flooded this area for several months this spring and all of the trees have fine silt covering the bark for the first ten 10ft or so. This saw was getting 4 trees cut and topped per tank of gas, which is the same as the BB660.
Here are just several photos of the trees, some might be duplicates or not in the right order.

This was a nice one.

Nice spurs on this one, make a neat table.

Next....

 

[Farmertim]

So ya finally stepped up and used a man's saw eh LOL!! Looks like some fine logs. Everything still looks pretty green your way--when do the leaves start changing?--just a great time to be in the woods.

Tim

 

[Slamm]

So ya finally stepped up and used a man's saw eh LOL!! Looks like some fine logs. Everything still looks pretty green your way--when do the leaves start changing?--just a great time to be in the woods.

Tim

LOL, I don't have a girls saw to use, as the 441 got crushed and I have several on there way to here now. 2000ssm6's stock 441 should be here tomorrow, and my 441R is getting ported lastnight, tonight and tomorrow night. Then I have another used one going to Terry for the same porting and then I have a line on a parts saw that will get a Big Bore kit and then I will find some used parts to get my crushed one going.
For the record, I love the power of modded 660's with a 28" bar, that is my favorite setup for bigger trees and/or flatter ground. On really steep stuff they tire me out more than their power can compensate for in the cut.

I have barely put any gas through this 066 thing, as I always had the BB660 and another modded 660 that is much faster. I did find out today that I simply do not like the BB660, and after talking to Jeremy, I think I need to order/get some softer AV mounts for it, as I think that is the reason the thing kills my hands. Because this mushy 066 didn't do a thing to my hands. Flat ground helps everything though, LOL. The 066 does have an aftermarket bar that is about as stout as a wet noodle, I can bend it at will, where as, I have never bent an OEM bar.

Mostly cutting Pin Oak here and some smaller soft maple:

Camera is acting screwy, this is the other side of where those barges were:

Later,

Sam

 

[tlandrum]

Then I have another used one going to Terry for the same porting

ahh sam do you miss our interaction already , and how can you take the abuse from those nasty ol rubber av saws,and the gas usage has got to be really hard on the proffit margin. just send thos big ol gas guzzlers to one of us that dont mind the fuel addiction.

 

[Stihlman441]

opcorn:

 

[Slamm]

Then I have another used one going to Terry for the same porting

ahh sam do you miss our interaction already , and how can you take the abuse from those nasty ol rubber av saws,and the gas usage has got to be really hard on the proffit margin. just send thos big ol gas guzzlers to one of us that dont mind the fuel addiction.

You, dumb$#it, Terry is my buddy in Iowa that ports all of my saws.

Sam

 

[tlandrum]

You, dumb$#it, Terry is my buddy in Iowa that ports all of my saws.

Sam

isnt that convenient..... throw out one name and it happens to be the same as mine . my feelings are more hurt by the minute.where my beer ,,,,,,,,i feel a tear coming on

 

[Slamm]

isnt that convenient..... throw out one name and it happens to be the same as mine .

Well, I'll try to overlook the substandard qualities you have brought onto such a name.

Terry, the guy who works on my saws, isn't nearly as full of crap as you are, and he hasn't been porting saws since last year or more likely earlier this year, more like 10+ years. Oh, and he loves the 441 and didn't just change that opinion in the last 20-30days, just to name some of the milder contrasts in case maybe you forget and think that, I'm talking about you, at some other point in the future.

Later,

Sam

 

[tlandrum]

oh please forgive me kind sir, im sure that my name must taste like sh it in your mouth,or is it the sh it youve been spouting off

 

[Slamm]

Here is something to not try because of obvious reasons, but I thought I would give it a try to see how a video would turn out. I high cut it because there was a rotten section on the outside, as it turned out it wasn't rotten on the inside:


Here is one for the kids. My first tree felled with a (stock) 441, yesterday, I am use to only operating modded saws and well, I don't want to ever have to use a (stock) saw again, this was miserable, especially on a tree this size. Pin Oak:


Might have another video after awhile ............its too long...

Sam

 

[Slamm]

A whoops, this tree wanted to fly.

The long video is 2.55 minutes of boredom cutting a larger tree down. Its still uploading and has failed several times. I don't know what is wrong with it.

Sam

 

[056kid]

Quit all that hocus pocus boring & tripping the back and you will get more done... I would have thought that you would know all about something that elementary with all the time you talk about saving with your 441.