Michaelmj11
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Sure looks that way.
Stihl MS 261 and 362 get an Update
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Sure looks that way.
pro94lt
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What's it weigh full of fluids? Wonder how close it is to the 550 and 241Hi,
i picked up my new 261 today.
No chain, bar or fuel. 4,9kg
New clutch cover: 0,16 kg - seems to be very thin
old clutch cover: 0,280kg
Lg
SawTroll
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Hi,
i picked up my new 261 today.
No chain, bar or fuel. 4,9kg
New clutch cover: 0,16 kg - seems to be very thin
old clutch cover: 0,280kg
Lg
Looks like the new saw needs a new model number....
Is your new one made in Germany or at VB?
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I would hope a German resident would have a German made saw.
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Oopps! Didn't notise where he is!
The Stylish PPE, short bar/ small saw and technique weren't enough clues enough that he wasn't American?
SawTroll
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The Stylish PPE, short bar/ small saw and technique weren't enough clues enough that he wasn't American?
Likely, if I had noticed it....
plumnjoe
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Ok, I visited at least 10 dealers in my area yesterday looking to purchase a 2nd generation ms261cm. None of them knew anything about these new saws and none of them really had any interest in finding out. One of the dealers reluctantly called the distributor in Orlando who said they knew nothing about any changes and referred them to tech support. Tech support said they were unaware of changes. So today I picked up the latest Stihl catalog and there they were! Does any one know a source down south that can get one of these saws?
Michaelmj11
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None thus far, and I assure you. You are not the only one looking. I was hoping to have heard back with more pictures from @sfg.Foley .
It is interesting that you in LA deal with distributors in FL, when I called Stihl I got a rather helpful Distributor in Arkansas
Sorry Michaelmj11,
There is much to do in the woods. Therefore, I had no time.
In Germany the 261 V2 is now out of stock. From mid-March it is available again.
I think if you had a old 261 you can chance the black plastics and use the new side cover.
Lg
There is much to do in the woods. Therefore, I had no time.
In Germany the 261 V2 is now out of stock. From mid-March it is available again.
I think if you had a old 261 you can chance the black plastics and use the new side cover.
Lg
tacomatrd98
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After looking at all these pics it appears that it is not a "laid back" cylinder like the 550/562xp saws. If you look at the transfers and the relationship of the crank to the cylinder, it appears the only thing changed on the cylinder (externally anyway) is the fin angle and style. The actual bore is still in the same location. It appears they just put the 261 on Jenny Craig and did minor updates all over but not a full blown redesign that would justify a new model number. Still a step in the right direction toward a better limb saw.
plumnjoe
suffers from cad!
Hopefully no confusion on my area Michaelmj11... I travel a lot for work and was at a dealer in Florida at the time. They made that call for me! Yes, my home is in Louisiana and I have checked there as well.
I really do like the look of the updated saws and wouldn't mind getting my hands on one. The slightly lighter weight as well as hp increase makes it very interesting to me. I would like to see a 362cm R version but those are not popular enough for the dealers to stock them.
I really do like the look of the updated saws and wouldn't mind getting my hands on one. The slightly lighter weight as well as hp increase makes it very interesting to me. I would like to see a 362cm R version but those are not popular enough for the dealers to stock them.
Michaelmj11
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Sorry Michaelmj11,
There is much to do in the woods. Therefore, I had no time.
In Germany the 261 V2 is now out of stock. From mid-March it is available again.
I think if you had a old 261 you can chance the black plastics and use the new side cover.
Lg
Thank you for sharing the pictures. I hope I did not annoy you too much, I was aiming for politely reminding =)
windthrown
361 Junkie
As for availability, these new saws will only become available when the distributors/dealers run out of old stock. As usual with new release saws, availability will vary as to region and distributor, as well as dealer stock. As for these two releases, we saw junkies are more aware of the new saws than are the dealers and distributors. Stihl blind sided their own dealers on this update and change. Hard to understand why. Dumb move, but my guess is that Stihl did not want to strap distributors and dealers with old stock saws. Again.
As for the engine redesigns, they are more than just a change in the outer fins of the jugs. The port timing on the 362 T2 is slightly different on the new saws compared to the old. Which seems to be where they get more power from. The angle of the jugs are the same as the old ones though. The low ends and cases are the same as the old saws. The pistons and rods are also the same on both. The mufflers and ignitions are also the same. The side cover is also different, along with the brake unit cover, but they can be swapped in as a set.
As for the engine redesigns, they are more than just a change in the outer fins of the jugs. The port timing on the 362 T2 is slightly different on the new saws compared to the old. Which seems to be where they get more power from. The angle of the jugs are the same as the old ones though. The low ends and cases are the same as the old saws. The pistons and rods are also the same on both. The mufflers and ignitions are also the same. The side cover is also different, along with the brake unit cover, but they can be swapped in as a set.
Windthrown, I thought I read somewhere as well that there would be a hp increase on the 362 t2. But based on the Plumnjoe's above pic of the catalogue page it shows the new 362 t2 at 4.69hp. My owners manual of the 362cm t1 shows 4.8hp. Essentially the same but based on that looks like they get a drop in power??
windthrown
361 Junkie
Someone pointed out that the new US catalog has the old 362 specs. It should also be 12.3 lb.
windthrown
361 Junkie
Stihl has no direct sales shops anywhere in the world that I am aware of. All Stihl tools are sold through distributors and dealers/retail shops.
K, thx. What is the new HP?
