Um, somehow I think you've misunderstood me somewhere. I also think that you've somehow taken what I've said personally when most of it has been aimed at Sawtroll, in particular the firewood comment which I was referencing to from an earlier post. I reread it and it probably did look like I was directing it at you - sorry (I like Sawtroll by the way but sometimes people have to chime in against all this balance BS as he'd have you convinced that the 346 can cure cancer and possibly even take down Chuck Norris). What I have been trying to say all along is that they are ALL good pro saws with VERY little between them. Dolmar 5100-S/5105, the 346, the 260/261 etc. I support all brands. Somehow I think you've taken my comments as a cheap shot at the 346 which is simply not the case. You've obviously sided with Sawtroll on this because you want a 346. That's great, I'd love one too
I do however stand by my comment that if you are going to get worn out using a 261 because of it's poorer balance you will be equally worn out using a 346 no matter how Sawtroll words it. Maybe you'll want to read back through his comments to understand what true saw racism is. He made reference to any saw being OK for cutting firewood but when you get in the forest etc etc. I'm sure the 346 will feel nicer to use, and it has an awesome reputation, but Sawtroll's stubborn stance against the 261 basically saying it feels like a pig is based on nothing more than numbers from the Stihl manual.
My comment about using saws and analysing saws was pointed at most people, including myself by the way. It's not only me that thinks like this on AS but I have a lot of trouble listening to people talking crap about a certain saw model when they've never touched, seen, or used one.
Oh and as far as sawing away in the sun all year, try doing it in 115°f and see how far you get. I'm not macho at all by the way, despite your thoughts, I just put comments in from my perspective and when comments from somebody like Sawtroll or even Tommy below need to be balanced with the opposing or a more balanced point of view I'll be there
Oh, and by the way, Tommy and I haven't seen eye to eye on numerous occasions with his one eyed Stihlness. I even wept once when he proved me wrong about buying shares in Stihl
All the best and no hard feelings. We've all been in fights too mate, some you win and some you lose. In real life a baseball bat wins 99% of them
This is actually me below Tom
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Awwwwwwwwwwww as the guy said who just lied about winning a million dollars, if it were only true,LOL
Who titled this thread, was it you, awww yes. Who already had their mind made up on a certain brand, awwww yes, it was you. If I got my mind made up on something I don't ask about the other choices, I wanna know about the choice I made. If I want a new Chevy pick up I don't start a thread called Chevy vs Ford vs Dodge, I start a thread about the Chevy only.
You ole boy got just what you asked for. You can't start a brand vs brand thread and then expect those that perfer the other brands to sit back while you beat the drum for the brand you like, tant gonna happen.
Finally and foremost if this to you is a fighting thread and somehow seems nasty you are indeed a good ole chap, I'll give you that, you have a very kind heart indeed. I find this thread 100% all in good fun and nothing more.,
First thing that came to mind reading this was "spoken like a dealer who lost the sale" Sorry T! :msp_drool: Its all in fun! Oh man I can't help myself
Certain with all the nasty winter weather lots of Stihl's from your shop are going to make lots of chips!
Um, somehow I think you've misunderstood me somewhere. I also think that you've somehow taken what I've said personally when most of it has been aimed at Sawtroll, in particular the firewood comment which I was referencing to from an earlier post. I reread it and it probably did look like I was directing it at you - sorry (I like Sawtroll by the way but sometimes people have to chime in against all this balance BS as he'd have you convinced that the 346 can cure cancer and possibly even take down Chuck Norris). What I have been trying to say all along is that they are ALL good pro saws with VERY little between them. Dolmar 5100-S/5105, the 346, the 260/261 etc. I support all brands. Somehow I think you've taken my comments as a cheap shot at the 346 which is simply not the case. You've obviously sided with Sawtroll on this because you want a 346. That's great, I'd love one too
I do however stand by my comment that if you are going to get worn out using a 261 because of it's poorer balance you will be equally worn out using a 346 no matter how Sawtroll words it. Maybe you'll want to read back through his comments to understand what true saw racism is. He made reference to any saw being OK for cutting firewood but when you get in the forest etc etc. I'm sure the 346 will feel nicer to use, and it has an awesome reputation, but Sawtroll's stubborn stance against the 261 basically saying it feels like a pig is based on nothing more than numbers from the Stihl manual.
My comment about using saws and analysing saws was pointed at most people, including myself by the way. It's not only me that thinks like this on AS but I have a lot of trouble listening to people talking crap about a certain saw model when they've never touched, seen, or used one.
Oh and as far as sawing away in the sun all year, try doing it in 115°f and see how far you get. I'm not macho at all by the way, despite your thoughts, I just put comments in from my perspective and when comments from somebody like Sawtroll or even Tommy below need to be balanced with the opposing or a more balanced point of view I'll be there
Oh, and by the way, Tommy and I haven't seen eye to eye on numerous occasions with his one eyed Stihlness. I even wept once when he proved me wrong about buying shares in Stihl
All the best and no hard feelings. We've all been in fights too mate, some you win and some you lose. In real life a baseball bat wins 99% of them
This is actually me below Tom
Point taken...can't be too touchy when hanging out on the web.
As a matter of fact, Thall and this is the God honest truth. I first had my mind made up on the MS261. Reading all the good stuff on the 5105 from Dolmar on this site, plus thinking it looked good, I switched my mind for a Dolmar.
At the dealer, when weighting it and seeing the inside engineering plus the filter set up and very tight tolerances (chain in its bar groove for example) next to the 346XP, the Husky looked more polished, in a further state of debug so I switched my mind again. After feeling like a friggin wind mill about my decisions, I thought, I'd revive the old debate to hear very specifically about those 3 saws from the experts so I could finally stick to a final pick. I heard plenty and plenty and quite honestly, i am not sure that the 346XP is any better than the MS261. I even suspect the 261 has the edge in term of rugedness (the filter set up for example). However what makes me stick to the 346 stubbornly now is the fact that I do owe this young salesguy for his time invested, I like him and feel loyal towards the guy plus I am sure that at this point, we are splitting hairs and the time invested talking about it is not worth the $460 of the saw. If paid by the hours, all the time spent here could afford us the MS261 AND the 346XP but this was not only about decision and work but mostly for the fun of it.
I guess I got a little pissed last night and left some bad blood boiling through my veins but I am over it now and it sure was not worth getting bent outta shape over. They say never to write e-mail when angry, that is so true. And I still haven't learned...Baaaah.
I do enjoy hearing opinions and most of all...I enjoy standing on my soap box bloviating pomposities away like the old wind bag that I am. You guys are good sports. Thanks for the education (at many levels, not just on chainsaws)
