STIHL MS 400.1

[bwalker]

Wonder if we'll see that version in the states.

Who knows if it's in the same state of tune? Could have an open port cylinder or the like.

 

[MaxFlow Flters]

Wonder if we'll see that version in the states.

Is there any place that is actually selling these right now? Or are these all just factory demonstration units. I have not seen any for sale at all, even outside of the USA..

 

[huskihl]

Is there any place that is actually selling these right now? Or are these all just factory demonstration units. I have not seen any for sale at all, even outside of the USA..

I don’t believe they are for sale anywhere yet. Normally, they would get released in Europe first and then Canada for a few months before they were available in the states

 

[sean donato]

Took, something like 2-3 years till we saw the original ms400 state side from it's first release.

 

[cscltd]

The repair manual is available on Stihl’s ssc for the ms363. But nothing else shown unless I have a vin # then it might show more. From what I saw, no mtronic version shown for the 2 carbs it lists?

 

[cscltd]

Found breakdown
Here is a pic of piston. Looks to be traditional piston, so I don’t think we will see it in Canada as may not pass emissions. But I assume it’s for brazils heavy ethanol blends of fuel

 

[huskihl]

Found breakdown
Here is a pic of piston. Looks to be traditional piston, so I don’t think we will see it in Canada as may not pass emissions. But I assume it’s for brazils heavy ethanol blends of fuel

That’s possible, but it would require a complete redesign of the carburetor, intake, cylinder, case…. But looking at that parts breakdown, the intake is more like a 500 and doesn’t appear to be strato It would be interesting to see for certain

 

[JasonL37179]

This new 400.1 looks to me like nothing more than consolidating production by eliminating a model to save $. All companies are forced to due to rampant inflation. It’s way worse than what the Fed tells/lies to us... Stihl did the same by axing the MS241, and let the 250 & 261 fill that void. Yes, both are very different saws, but both are versatile enough with a broad appeal and perennial best sellers. The 362 is proven, and the 60cc class a big market. Why not update it to top of spec for its class, and re-brand it? Not that I like this, but it’s the way it is. I suspect more of this will happen too.

Plus, the 400 is definitely more of a one-off with the magnesium piston. I never understood that, given all the R&D put into aluminum pistons. Saws are industrial machines that have a hard life. They’re not race engines with rigid maintenance. BMW used magnesium blocks then went back to aluminum when they started adding turbos to their i6 to handle the added cylinder pressure.

Jason

 

[bwalker]

This new 400.1 looks to me like nothing more than consolidating production by eliminating a model to save $. All companies are forced to due to rampant inflation. It’s way worse than what the Fed tells/lies to us... Stihl did the same by axing the MS241, and let the 250 & 261 fill that void. Yes, both are very different saws, but both are versatile enough with a broad appeal and perennial best sellers. The 362 is proven, and the 60cc class a big market. Why not update it to top of spec for its class, and re-brand it? Not that I like this, but it’s the way it is. I suspect more of this will happen too.

Plus, the 400 is definitely more of a one-off with the magnesium piston. I never understood that, given all the R&D put into aluminum pistons. Saws are industrial machines that have a hard life. They’re not race engines with rigid maintenance. BMW used magnesium blocks then went back to aluminum when they started adding turbos to their i6 to handle the added cylinder pressure.

Jason

The 362/400 chassis is long in the tooth and due a refresh hence the 400.1. Simple as that.
Magnesium pistons where used in the 1930's ,so its hardly high tech.

 

[Beaverblade]

Shoot, by the time I wear mine out we will be another generation or two past the 400.1.

Just means its time to stock up on parts for the current version before p/c kits become unobtainable.

What parts/spares are a good idea to have on hand with part numbers if available? Appreciate it.

 

[sean donato]

What parts/spares are a good idea to have on hand with part numbers if available? Appreciate it.

Only thing I'm really worried about is getting a spare piston and cylinder. Not expecting to need it for a really long time.

 

[bwalker]

Only thing I'm really worried about is getting a spare piston and cylinder. Not expecting to need it for a really long time.

I would bet those items will be discontinued rather quickly.

 

[sean donato]

I would bet those items will be discontinued rather quickly.

I meant, it's the only part I'm getting now, but not planning on having to need it for some time.