don
ArboristSite Guru
MS290 sprocket
Does the MS 290 take a standard sprocket?
Does the MS 290 take a standard sprocket?
Stihl MS290
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WillClimb
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It takes the sprocket compatible with the .325 chain and bar, which I take is not the standard.
jokers
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Don, are you asking if it takes a "Stihl unique" mini spline rim like the 026 and 036 and not the "standard" small spline rim that the rest of the world uses on small displacement saws?
Russ
Russ
don
ArboristSite Guru
MS290 spline
I am asking if it takes the standard 7/8 spline.
I am asking if it takes the standard 7/8 spline.
Fish
Tree Freak
"Never trust a SawTech"
They lie.
They lie.
Don,
It doesn't take the Oregon standard 7/8 spline rims. It takes the Stihl standard 13/16 (or thereabouts) spline rims.
Oregon makes a splined clutch drum for the saw and with it you can change standards if you're so inclined.
The situation is similar for the 026, Russ.
Glen
It doesn't take the Oregon standard 7/8 spline rims. It takes the Stihl standard 13/16 (or thereabouts) spline rims.
Oregon makes a splined clutch drum for the saw and with it you can change standards if you're so inclined.
The situation is similar for the 026, Russ.
Glen
Saw Tec
OK Fish, Ya want to explain that comment.
OK Fish, Ya want to explain that comment.
Fish
Tree Freak
Just trying to draw you out, and develope a little sense of
humor in you!
I actually do not remember posting that last post, but since
I am a hopeless drunk, I am sure I did.
Poulantech!
humor in you!
I actually do not remember posting that last post, but since
I am a hopeless drunk, I am sure I did.
Poulantech!
sonny
ArboristSite Guru
picco on a 056 u have to be drunk.
jokers
Addicted to ArboristSite
"Stihl Standard"
Yes Glens, I`m aware that you can replace the drum on a Stihl with an Oregon and thus change the rim required, already have on one 026. The point that I am making is that everyone but Stihl seems to use the Oregon "standard" thus there is nothing standard about the Stihl dimension. Same deal as the odd number of drive links required for any of the Stihl saws vs the other modern and popular brands. Just one more attempt by Stihl to get in the shorts of their customers.
For the difference in cost between 4 Stihl rims and 4 cheaper Oregon or GB rims I can outfit my saws with an Oregon Powermate system which uses the more standard "Oregon standard" dimension spline and then it`s money in the bank. And since you get a new rim when you buy the Powermate system it`s actually more like the difference in 3 rims. The Stihl rims are no better than anyone else`s in my experience, the best may be GB which can also be had very cheaply from Don or Jeff Sikkema. Jeff Sikkemma`s Site
Russ
Yes Glens, I`m aware that you can replace the drum on a Stihl with an Oregon and thus change the rim required, already have on one 026. The point that I am making is that everyone but Stihl seems to use the Oregon "standard" thus there is nothing standard about the Stihl dimension. Same deal as the odd number of drive links required for any of the Stihl saws vs the other modern and popular brands. Just one more attempt by Stihl to get in the shorts of their customers.
For the difference in cost between 4 Stihl rims and 4 cheaper Oregon or GB rims I can outfit my saws with an Oregon Powermate system which uses the more standard "Oregon standard" dimension spline and then it`s money in the bank. And since you get a new rim when you buy the Powermate system it`s actually more like the difference in 3 rims. The Stihl rims are no better than anyone else`s in my experience, the best may be GB which can also be had very cheaply from Don or Jeff Sikkema. Jeff Sikkemma`s Site
Russ
Russ,
I'd have been surprised if you hadn't known that, but your language did seem to suggest it (in the sense that you observed the problem but suggested no solution).
I don't know how accurate or comprehensive http://www.oregonchain.com/selchart.htm is, but it shows:<table><tr><td><table><tr><td>3/8</td><th>Hu</th><th>Ho</th><th>Ec</th><th>Jo</th><th>Mc</th><th>St</th></tr>
<tr><td>16"</td><td>60</td><td>60</td><td>60</td><td>60</td><td>60</td><td>60</td></tr>
<tr><td>18"</td><td>68</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td>64</td><td>66</td><td></td></tr>
<tr><td>20"</td><td>72</td><td>70</td><td>70</td><td>70</td><td>70</td><td>72</td></tr></table></td><td> </td>
<td><table><tr><td>.325</td><th>Hu</th><th>Ho</th><th>Ec</th><th>Jo</th><th>Mc</th><th>St</th></tr>
<tr><td>16"</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td>67</td></tr>
<tr><td>18"</td><td>72</td><td>72</td><td>72</td><td>72</td><td>72</td><td>74</td></tr>
<tr><td>20"</td><td>78</td><td>78</td><td>78</td><td>78</td><td>78</td><td>81</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>
As for the .325 it appears as though Stihl is the loner, but there's somewhat less uniformity in the 3/8 listings.
What about the larger (044 and up) Stihl rims? Do they swap straight out for the Oregon (and GB?) units? And do the GB and Oregon rims all share exact dimensions or are they just "close enough"?
If you had to pick one bar mount pattern to be a standard, which one would you like?
For your cost comparison it would seem that the Stihl rims would have to cost $6, the Oregon rims $3 and the Oregon hub/rim combo $12. Is that right? I recently got enough Stihl 3/8-7 rims to comfortably last me a while for $4.25 each.
I guess if one had a large stable of saws from different manufacturers, parts commonality would be more of an issue than it is for me.
Glen
I'd have been surprised if you hadn't known that, but your language did seem to suggest it (in the sense that you observed the problem but suggested no solution).
I don't know how accurate or comprehensive http://www.oregonchain.com/selchart.htm is, but it shows:<table><tr><td><table><tr><td>3/8</td><th>Hu</th><th>Ho</th><th>Ec</th><th>Jo</th><th>Mc</th><th>St</th></tr>
<tr><td>16"</td><td>60</td><td>60</td><td>60</td><td>60</td><td>60</td><td>60</td></tr>
<tr><td>18"</td><td>68</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td>64</td><td>66</td><td></td></tr>
<tr><td>20"</td><td>72</td><td>70</td><td>70</td><td>70</td><td>70</td><td>72</td></tr></table></td><td> </td>
<td><table><tr><td>.325</td><th>Hu</th><th>Ho</th><th>Ec</th><th>Jo</th><th>Mc</th><th>St</th></tr>
<tr><td>16"</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td>66</td><td>67</td></tr>
<tr><td>18"</td><td>72</td><td>72</td><td>72</td><td>72</td><td>72</td><td>74</td></tr>
<tr><td>20"</td><td>78</td><td>78</td><td>78</td><td>78</td><td>78</td><td>81</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>
As for the .325 it appears as though Stihl is the loner, but there's somewhat less uniformity in the 3/8 listings.
What about the larger (044 and up) Stihl rims? Do they swap straight out for the Oregon (and GB?) units? And do the GB and Oregon rims all share exact dimensions or are they just "close enough"?
If you had to pick one bar mount pattern to be a standard, which one would you like?
For your cost comparison it would seem that the Stihl rims would have to cost $6, the Oregon rims $3 and the Oregon hub/rim combo $12. Is that right? I recently got enough Stihl 3/8-7 rims to comfortably last me a while for $4.25 each.
I guess if one had a large stable of saws from different manufacturers, parts commonality would be more of an issue than it is for me.
Glen
Fish
Tree Freak
Wow Russ!
You gonna take that sitting down!??
You gonna take that sitting down!??
picco
Ya never know until you try. Just as bad as the customer with full 3/8 on his 025.
But, If I could find some high profile picco? And then get the 88 jug on the 66,hmmmm.
Ya never know until you try. Just as bad as the customer with full 3/8 on his 025.
But, If I could find some high profile picco? And then get the 88 jug on the 66,hmmmm.
j_krebs
New Member
Stihl MS 290
I just purchased an MS 290 myself ... based on reviews, specs. and dealer recommendations. I have not had a chance to use it yet but the reason I went with the 290 is b/c technically it is on the higher horsepower end for the mid-size chain. I started to go with the MS 310, which steps up to the 3/8" chain but it also jumps 1/4 hp to help pull it. Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to use either saw but I didn't want the saw to bog-down in hard wood so my gut told me to go with the 290. I think the 390 would be the best choice for the bigger chain. Since the 290 was $40.00 less than the 310 I felt it was a better deal. The 290 seems to be a popular saw and that weighed in on my decision as well. I have an older 021 that has been, and still is, a good saw. I remember it taking about 2 or 3 tanks of gas before the horsepower really opened up.
I just purchased an MS 290 myself ... based on reviews, specs. and dealer recommendations. I have not had a chance to use it yet but the reason I went with the 290 is b/c technically it is on the higher horsepower end for the mid-size chain. I started to go with the MS 310, which steps up to the 3/8" chain but it also jumps 1/4 hp to help pull it. Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to use either saw but I didn't want the saw to bog-down in hard wood so my gut told me to go with the 290. I think the 390 would be the best choice for the bigger chain. Since the 290 was $40.00 less than the 310 I felt it was a better deal. The 290 seems to be a popular saw and that weighed in on my decision as well. I have an older 021 that has been, and still is, a good saw. I remember it taking about 2 or 3 tanks of gas before the horsepower really opened up.
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glens said:
Sure he will. 029/290 is the largest selling saw in Stihl's history so he has a lot of company. Husky owners like to bash them because they aren't strong enough to pick up a 13lb saw and demand compression releases on a 40cc saws. Ask Stihltech how many of them he has to repair compared to how many they sell. They may not be the lightest or the most powerful but they are very reliable and since they're meant for consumers they are pretty quiet. You got a good saw, enjoy it.
John...
My MS-310 was doggie for about 2 to 3 tanks. I dont think the ms-290 and the ms 310 are much diff in HP (1/4hp isn't to much diff). I ran both of them and seen very little cutting power I thought the 290 reved up faster but it was just a guess. I do like my 310 and not knocking stihls any, but they are under powered a little bit.
It is interesting from where such selling numbers info is available because companies are not advertising such things very much and it is interesting that 029 is sold more than even 026 or 044 (?). This probably can be explained with dominance of 029 on the US consumer sector. In europe 290/310/390 are not very popular saws. May be 029 is largest selling saw in Stihls history on US market only.whatsnext said:
That might be the case but it's what I've heard from every Stihl dealer I've asked. They are very very common here in the States.pinus said:It is interesting from where such selling numbers info is available because companies are not advertising such things very much and it is interesting that 029 is sold more than even 026 or 044 (?). This probably can be explained with dominance of 029 on the US consumer sector. In europe 290/310/390 are not very popular saws. May be 029 is largest selling saw in Stihls history on US market only.
John...
Fish
Tree Freak
Unfortunatly they make their fuel lines out of used bubblegum, but keep
me in business.
Instead of switching to a 3/8 chain, I usually suggest that the customer
gets a rim sprocket, and then try an 8 tooth rim.
me in business.
Instead of switching to a 3/8 chain, I usually suggest that the customer
gets a rim sprocket, and then try an 8 tooth rim.
SawTroll
Information Collector
Here in Norway the 290 and 310 are not even offered for sale.pinus said:..... In europe 290/310/390 are not very popular saws. May be 029 is largest selling saw in Stihls history on US market only.
The "Farm Boss" designation is used on the MS390 and the basic, "non-pro", MS 260 (called 260 FB).
The 390 cost less than the 260 FB, but I have never seen a single one even at dealers, so I suspect those are not very popular either.
