stihl oil and gas caps

[capecodtree]

Is it me or are the new stihl gas and oil caps lousy? I have had the oil cap on my 200t's come out while climbing or in the bucket. Probably four times in five years. what a mess! One other time, while climbing, I had a small pitch pine limb go through the "flip top" and pull the oil cap out. My guys all run husky's and I may have to switch. what do you guys think?

 

[Philbert]

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=141300&highlight=flippy+caps

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=141336&highlight=flippy+caps

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=117054&highlight=flippy+caps

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=133317&highlight=flippy+caps

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=133371&highlight=flippy+caps

. . . and about 11 more pages listing threads just on this topic.

Philbert

 

[tree md]

Not going to switch saws over them but I hate the flippy caps. I learned myself after the first time I spilt oil down my leg. I have no problems getting them off and on but if your in business you can't always do it yourself. I have worn oil down the leg three or four times after my guys have filled the saws.

It's ridicules that you have to fill the saws yourself in the mornings when you are the owner but if you don't want to watch someone struggle for 15 minutes trying to get the caps back on and you don't want to wear bar oil then you have to do it yourself unfortunately... All due to over engineered caps. I never had any problems with the old caps and didn't hear anyone complaining about them. On the contrary, most I know complain about the new ones.

 

[banshee67]

really? youd switch brands of saws just because of the flippy caps? i really do not understand why people have problems with them..
a little over engineered? sure... but cmon.. they are pretty simple and work fine, i dont understand how it could "fall off/out"..the little plastic tabs would prevent this from happening

 

[banshee67]

It's ridicules that you have to fill the saws yourself in the mornings when you are the owner but if you don't want to watch someone struggle for 15 minutes trying to get the caps back on

i would always take every saw in the truck out before every job for my boss. i would top each one off with bar oil and fuel, and start them all to get them warmed up/make sure they ran. from the climbing saws to the 660. that should be something any good ground guy should do without having to be told to do it.
on a side note, it sounds like you need some new ground guys, maybe they should be part of your pre-hiring job screening interview , if they cant figure out a flippy cap, god only knows what theyll mess up on a dangerous job site :greenchainsaw:

 

[tree md]

i would always take every saw in the truck out before every job for my boss. i would top each one off with bar oil and fuel, and start them all to get them warmed up/make sure they ran. from the climbing saws to the 660. that should be something any good ground guy should do without having to be told to do it.
on a side note, it sounds like you need some new ground guys, maybe they should be part of your pre-hiring job screening interview , if they cant figure out a flippy cap, god only knows what theyll mess up on a dangerous job site :greenchainsaw:

My rope man and number 1 groundy has been working the ground and running ropes and saws for 20 years. As long as I have been climbing. He's been with me for three. He could rope the moon as well as rebuild a carburetor on an 066. Can't get a flippy cap off and on to save his life. Of course he is 6'4" and goes around 290 with fists the size of hams. Still, I think I'll keep him.

 

[NeoTree]

I replaced the oil cap on my ms200 because it wouldn't seat properly, and now the new one, after a couple tanks of gas, is not seating right again
yup, they suck.
my 270 on the other hand has survived years of abuse. i think its model speciffic maybe.

 

[tree md]

I replaced the oil cap on my ms200 because it wouldn't seat properly, and now the new one, after a couple tanks of gas, is not seating right again
yup, they suck.
my 270 on the other hand has survived years of abuse. i think its model speciffic maybe.

Yup. No one has any problems with the caps on any of my saws except for the 200. The gas cap is a little burred or something and it is hard to get off and on. I'm the only one who can do it. I end up just gassing and oiling all of them in the mornings because it makes no sense for me to not fuel them all at the same time and only do one. Believe me, it saves me stress to just do it myself...

 

[banshee67]

he is 6'4" and goes around 290 with fists the size of hams. Still, I think I'll keep him.

in that case, keep him, buy him 2 of any husky he wants, and fire the other idiots who cant figure out the flippy caps!!

 

[tree md]

Actually I am kind of funny about stuff like that. Some would prolly say a little anal. I have learned to head off certain stress points for myself to make my day go smoother. I like to gas my saws and warm them up because I like to make sure they are in good working order at the start of the day and I have no one to blame but myself if one of them becomes flooded. I get really irate when someone floods a saw first thing in the morning and I have to jack with it. Simple solution: I just start the saws myself the first thing in the morning and it avoids any possible stress over the saws.

Another pet peeve is for anyone to touch my throw line. Yes, I understand that you are trying to help and look like you're staying busy but if you lay a finger on my throwline and I have to unravel a birds nest then we are going to have words...

Kind of weird to some of you, I'm sure but there are just certain tasks I would rather do myself and avoid any high blood pressure.

 

[NeoTree]

Actually I am kind of funny about stuff like that. Some would prolly say a little anal. I have learned to head off certain stress points for myself to make my day go smoother. I like to gas my saws and warm them up because I like to make sure they are in good working order at the start of the day and I have no one to blame but myself if one of them becomes flooded. I get really irate when someone floods a saw first thing in the morning and I have to jack with it. Simple solution: I just start the saws myself the first thing in the morning and it avoids any possible stress over the saws.

Another pet peeve is for anyone to touch my throw line. Yes, I understand that you are trying to help and look like you're staying busy but if you lay a finger on my throwline and I have to unravel a birds nest then we are going to have words...

Kind of weird to some of you, I'm sure but there are just certain tasks I would rather do myself and avoid any high blood pressure.

absolutely agree.

 

[TimberJack_7]

Actually I am kind of funny about stuff like that. Some would prolly say a little anal. I have learned to head off certain stress points for myself to make my day go smoother. I like to gas my saws and warm them up because I like to make sure they are in good working order at the start of the day and I have no one to blame but myself if one of them becomes flooded. I get really irate when someone floods a saw first thing in the morning and I have to jack with it. Simple solution: I just start the saws myself the first thing in the morning and it avoids any possible stress over the saws.

Another pet peeve is for anyone to touch my throw line. Yes, I understand that you are trying to help and look like you're staying busy but if you lay a finger on my throwline and I have to unravel a birds nest then we are going to have words...

Kind of weird to some of you, I'm sure but there are just certain tasks I would rather do myself and avoid any high blood pressure.

Agreed....Anytime I am with someone new, the first thing they go for is your ropes and throwline. I say "Don't touch that", and give them a look. I hate it when other people roll, or try to roll my ropes for me. Just stay away from them because if you roll them up, I am going to unroll them and redo them right in front of you. You would think people would get offended but they always say "ok" and leave me alone about it.

 

[tree md]

I flake my ropes into a bag these days but it don't matter, whether you are rolling ropes or flaking them into a bag, I like to stow my own ropes. Some guys will think you are totally anal about it but what I am actually doing is inspecting my climb line as I reel it in and stow it. Kind of like packing your own parachute. Lets you know at the end of each day if your rope has been damaged. I am the same way about my rigging lines.

 

[TimberJack_7]

I flake my ropes into a bag these days but it don't matter, whether you are rolling ropes or flaking them into a bag, I like to stow my own ropes. Some guys will think you are totally anal about it but what I am actually doing is inspecting my climb line as I reel it in and stow it. Kind of like packing your own parachute. Lets you know at the end of each day if your rope has been damaged. I am the same way about my rigging lines.

Exactly.

 

[sgreanbeans]

Actually I am kind of funny about stuff like that. Some would prolly say a little anal. I have learned to head off certain stress points for myself to make my day go smoother. I like to gas my saws and warm them up because I like to make sure they are in good working order at the start of the day and I have no one to blame but myself if one of them becomes flooded. I get really irate when someone floods a saw first thing in the morning and I have to jack with it. Simple solution: I just start the saws myself the first thing in the morning and it avoids any possible stress over the saws.

Another pet peeve is for anyone to touch my throw line. Yes, I understand that you are trying to help and look like you're staying busy but if you lay a finger on my throwline and I have to unravel a birds nest then we are going to have words...

Kind of weird to some of you, I'm sure but there are just certain tasks I would rather do myself and avoid any high blood pressure.

:agree2:

The flipper caps, I figured out will not shut if there is too much fuel/oil in, the seal will not seat, also the smallest little chip, wont let it seat properly either, we fill them about 7/8's full, making sure everything is REALLY clean, seems to work, the old scwrench slot caps are my favs, but they seem to wear out where you put the tip in, I think they should come up with a happy medium and put a steel insert in the old caps, while making the slot smaller to better accomadate the scwrench flat tip.

 

[Bermie]

:agree2:

The flipper caps, I figured out will not shut if there is too much fuel/oil in, the seal will not seat, also the smallest little chip, wont let it seat properly either, we fill them about 7/8's full, making sure everything is REALLY clean, seems to work, the old scwrench slot caps are my favs, but they seem to wear out where you put the tip in, I think they should come up with a happy medium and put a steel insert in the old caps, while making the slot smaller to better accomadate the scwrench flat tip.

You got it in one...flipping flippy caps...my gas cap has just gotten all stiff for some reason, taken to not seating properly without a little extra attention, had it filled, shut, started and cutting then I realized the cap was off and gas flying everywhere...

And THAT'S a good idea for screw caps

 

[treemandan]

You got it in one...flipping flippy caps...my gas cap has just gotten all stiff for some reason, taken to not seating properly without a little extra attention, had it filled, shut, started and cutting then I realized the cap was off and gas flying everywhere...

And THAT'S a good idea for screw caps

The gas cap will get stiff cause the gas cleans off any lubricant. A little dose of bar oil should fix the stiffness.

 

[Bermie]

The gas cap will get stiff cause the gas cleans off any lubricant. A little dose of bar oil should fix the stiffness.

Well it took three years for tha cap to get stiff, but I'll dunk it in bar oil tomorrow...

 

[benjo75]

My neighbor owns the Stihl place here in town and said that everyone gripes about the flippy caps, including me. My 10 year old 020T works great and never any trouble with the old caps.

I will need a new topping saw soon and not sure what I will go with. I have replaced both the flippy caps on my 6 month old 260 already. I dont need any trouble in the top of a tree.

Dont touch my ropes either. I'll redo them right there.

 

[Saw Dust Smoken]

Is Stihl paying attention?? Home owners/customer are asking what saw to get for home use? Since the flip caps no Stihl are worth the hassle! How many sales are Stihl willing to lose before they change??