Stihlmans Wood,Tree cutting ramblings...........

[KiwiBro]

Yar i spoke to a local bee bloke,but the hive is about 20 ' of the ground which makes it a bit hard for him to get to and the hive is inside the dead part of the tree so allso hard to get at.:frown:

Good on you for trying. I don't know what it's like there but we are on the brink of serious hive collapses all over the show here.

 

[MCW]

Trust me Andrew - headlights won't stop bees. Been there, tried it, and got the crap stung out of me! Best way is to sneak up, launch a can of fly spray in their hole, then stand back and hit it with your .204

Good on you for trying. I don't know what it's like there but we are on the brink of serious hive collapses all over the show here.

Varroa Mite I presume? Nasty little critter but hasn't hit Australia yet. The experts are saying it's not a matter of if but when.
Our almond industry relies heavily on bees for pollination and nut set. I used to do beehive inspections for the almond industry and the apiarists are crapping themselves with the possibility of Varroa Mite finding it's way to our shores.

 

[derwoodii]

agree i did bee removal at nite tis a funny thing watchin two blokes wackin each other under torch lite as we picked of the critters that stuck with us after the run away.

Cool or the dawn morning best plug hole with fuelly rag or if can no reach it use a long pole with rag soaked with 25. 1

can of bug spray lobbed in a great idea as well MCW

If you can leave alone or save them well thats even better

 

[KiwiBro]

Varroa Mite I presume? Nasty little critter but hasn't hit Australia yet. The experts are saying it's not a matter of if but when.
Our almond industry relies heavily on bees for pollination and nut set. I used to do beehive inspections for the almond industry and the apiarists are crapping themselves with the possibility of Varroa Mite finding it's way to our shores.

It looks like varroa mite is becoming resistant to pesticides but I think we've started to see colony collapse disorder too. One guy with 50 hives in and around Auckland lost 40 within a few weeks recently. Now that's scary, especially when bees are worth about $5b to NZ.

 

[MCW]

It looks like varroa mite is becoming resistant to pesticides but I think we've started to see colony collapse disorder too. One guy with 50 hives in and around Auckland lost 40 within a few weeks recently. Now that's scary, especially when bees are worth about $5b to NZ.

Yeah the other thing that bees are very sensitive to is certain insecticides and fungicides, especially SP's (Synthetic Pyrethroids). Although the adults may not get a lethal dose the accumulation of insecticide/fungicides in the pollen eventually kills the brood (bee larvae) as it is fed to them. People see the workers and drones running around and assume all is good but it's only when you check brood levels you realise there is a problem. We had to assess this as part of the beehive assessments for the almond industry and if any products had to get sprayed during flowering when the bees were foraging they would apply them during the evening when the bees were back in the hive.
I've seen whole hives knocked out because the neighbour sprayed insecticides in an enirely different crop and hadn't realised the worker beess were also foraging for pollen in their crop.

 

[deye223]

Yeah the other thing that bees are very sensitive to is certain insecticides and fungicides, especially SP's (Synthetic Pyrethroids). Although the adults may not get a lethal dose the accumulation of insecticide/fungicides in the pollen eventually kills the brood (bee larvae) as it is fed to them. People see the workers and drones running around and assume all is good but it's only when you check brood levels you realise there is a problem. We had to assess this as part of the beehive assessments for the almond industry and if any products had to get sprayed during flowering when the bees were foraging they would apply them during the evening when the bees were back in the hive.
I've seen whole hives knocked out because the neighbour sprayed insecticides in an enirely different crop and hadn't realised the worker beess were also foraging for pollen in their crop.

hey matt are there any Synthetic Pyrethroids i can get i need to get rid of a hive 12 meters from me back door

 

[MCW]

hey matt are there any Synthetic Pyrethroids i can get i need to get rid of a hive 12 meters from me back door

Bifenthrin is pretty good mate. Just lace the entrance to the hive and they'll continue to pick it up as they go in and out. Killing hives may upset some people but it just has to be done. Remember that bees also pollinate weeds so they're not all good
Another good one is Coopex dust and is exactly what pest controllers use...

COOPEX INSECTICIDE DUST - 10kg

You can also get it in smaller sachets for about $10. Most agricultural stores stock it (in our area anyway!).

 

[deye223]

thanks . we use coopex to keep the mozies away works good had no idear it would kill bees

 

[derwoodii]

Bifenthrin is pretty good mate. Just lace the entrance to the hive and they'll continue to pick it up as they go in and out. Killing hives may upset some people but it just has to be done. Remember that bees also pollinate weeds so they're not all good
Another good one is Coopex dust and is exactly what pest controllers use...

COOPEX INSECTICIDE DUST - 10kg

You can also get it in smaller sachets for about $10. Most agricultural stores stock it (in our area anyway!).

Ta coopex dust, handy to know my small supplies of carbaryl dust are running low and cannot replace now as told not selling even with my chemcert card and its gittin europen on wasp season soon.

 

[MCW]

Ta coopex dust, handy to know my small supplies of carbaryl dust are running low and cannot replace now as told not selling even with my chemcert card and its gittin europen on wasp season soon.

Hmmm. Interesting. Carbaryl is only a Schedule 6 so not restricted for sale in South Australia to anybody. You only need a chem cert for Schedule 7 chemicals.

 

[derwoodii]

Hmmm. Interesting. Carbaryl is only a Schedule 6 so not restricted for sale in South Australia to anybody. You only need a chem cert for Schedule 7 chemicals.

story i'm told is its been taken off shelves past few years due to cancer cause fear. It used to be easy to get, now gone away, shame was good for wasp but if coopex good I'll go there. Yet it says coopex is permethrin based and none of my work with permethrin has done diddly to wasps, we'll have to see. 5 litres of 25 .1 down the hole works just as good and cheaper

Banned chemical on shelves despite fears it can harm health - National

 

[MCW]

story i'm told is its been taken off shelves past few years due to cancer cause fear. It used to be easy to get, now gone away, shame was good for wasp but if coopex good I'll go there. Yet it says coopex is permethrin based and none of my work with permethrin has done diddly to wasps, we'll have to see. 5 litres of 25 .1 down the hole works just as good and cheaper

Banned chemical on shelves despite fears it can harm health - National

That article must be home gardener related to Carbaryl. We ordered and received a product called Bugmaster Flowable just a few weeks back.
There are restrictions coming in though on a number of chemicals in relation to carcinogenic effects and mutagenic effects - in the next few years we'll lose a number of key horticultural insecticides.
Permethrin smacks the crap out of bees. Wasps are harder to kill though but it still should bowl them arse over head. They may get a few stings in first

Bugmaster Flowable Insecticide - Product Details - Bayer CropScience

This product's permit runs through to 2016 (see attachment from the APVMA). Sometimes (well actually quite often!) the media doesn't know what the fu*k they're talking about

View attachment 263559

 

[derwoodii]

ta the informed update, seems Carbaryl ban is for domestic users and they prolly needed it as seen people foolishly use the stuff like baby talc powder around kids food crops they could buy Safeways 10% Carbaryl dust throw it on the tomatoes day before cropping..

wasps numbers spike up about Feb march hoping they struggle like last year but its lookin to a good season so far i squashed me 1st last week

 

[Stihlman441]

The little saw that could MS241C

[video=youtube;3OGsyG-Kl1Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OGsyG-Kl1Y[/video]

 

[deye223]

The little saw that could MS241C

you ain't making it easy to stay with a 3 saw plan :msp_unsure:

 

[Rudolf73]

you ain't making it easy to stay with a 3 saw plan :msp_unsure:

Yeah, it sure looks like a fun saw Darren.

 

[gcdible1]

Yeah, its so fun they wont allow it in the states...

 

[deye223]

Yeah, its so fun they wont allow it in the states...

thats because ya can't put a 36" bar on it otstir:

i'm just fun'en ya

 

[Stihlman441]

Yeah, its so fun they wont allow it in the states...

They are getterble from the UK

 

[Stihlman441]

Ya been thinkin about gettin Randy to port one.:msp_wink: