Sure is quiet in here....do I need to start a fight?

[pioneerguy600]

LOL couldn't resist....had to look at the old timing chain.........some beet EH?

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Yep, bad, but I have seen worse still run, was time for replacement though. The old small blocks ran nylon teeth on the cam end, was supposed to run quieter. Seen them run til the teeth were totally gone and the engine jumped time. Remember well one winter night around 9:30, - 18F and outside replacing a timing chain on a 68 Pontiac Strato Chief so my younger brother could go to vocational school the next morning, yep, I had it bad.

 

[jimdad07]

Hello guys. Everybody still alive?

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[farrell]

Dam shame ,Adam. Like I already posted over there, workmanship and quality of that kind will likely never be seen again. Definitely a big loss to community!

The community and surrounding area are pulling together and stepping up!

The golf course/ country club has offered to host the local high school proms

One of the other historic hotels in the area has offered to honor the deposits made for weddings/ receptions

So many supplied food and water and coffee to the fire fighters this morning............24+ area volunteer fire depts were on scene............used 2 million gallons of water but was a losing battle

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[pioneerguy600]

Seeing your finger on that chain reminds me of my friend Clary, he was replacing a timing ain on his 69 SD Beaumomt 427 - 4 spd. He put the new chain on and started the engine and was showing a few friends how tight the new chain was, pressed his finger on the outside and no harm, stuck his pointer finger on the inside, big mistake. The chain grabbed his finger and through the cam gear it went, came out mighty crooked!!

 

[Cantdog]

Yep, bad, but I have seen worse still run, was time for replacement though. The old small blocks ran nylon teeth on the cam end, was supposed to run quieter. Seen them run til the teeth were totally gone and the engine jumped time. Remember well one winter night around 9:30, - 18F and outside replacing a timing chain on a 68 Pontiac Strato Chief so my younger brother could go to vocational school the next morning, yep, I had it bad.

Yep my 327 had lost about half the nylon teeth....didn't jump the timing though. The new AMC motor had the same set up.....alum cam sprocket with nylon teeth and was in good shape but I replaced with a steel set as I know how it would end relying on 40 year old plastic.....it would end with me lying in the grass somewhere installing a new timing set......no thanks....much easier right on the engine in a nice well lit shop.....$37.00 worth of insurance......

 

[pioneerguy600]

The community and surrounding area are pulling together and stepping up!

The golf course/ country club has offered to host the local high school proms

One of the other historic hotels in the area has offered to honor the deposits made for weddings/ receptions

So many supplied food and water and coffee to the fire fighters this morning............24+ area volunteer fire depts were on scene............used 2 million gallons of water but was a losing battle

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So good of them all to pull together,seen similar when big old hotels and lodges have mysteriously burned down only to be replaced by new clean but modern looking buildings. All that old historical charm was done away with,the new buildings are easier to heat,have better electrical systems and less upkeep...

 

[pioneerguy600]

Hello guys. Everybody still alive?

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Yep,still keeping it real....LOL

 

[jimdad07]

Yep,still keeping it real....LOL

Same here

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[pioneerguy600]

What did you find ?

The muffler screen,held in place by one Phillips head sheet metal screw was blocked up completely. The muffler itself was very clean so it looked to me the last time the saw ran it likely was running on very old stale fuel and it burned like plastic and gunked up the screen quickly.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Same here

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How`s the barn going?

 

[Cantdog]

Seeing your finger on that chain reminds me of my friend Clary, he was replacing a timing ain on his 69 SD Beaumomt 427 - 4 spd. He put the new chain on and started the engine and was showing a few friends how tight the new chain was, pressed his finger on the outside and no harm, stuck his pointer finger on the inside, big mistake. The chain grabbed his finger and through the cam gear it went, came out mighty crooked!!

YeeeeeeOUCH!!! Worked at a peatbog plant one time.....we had a big electric conveyor to load bags of peat aboard tractor trailers......the clutch was screeching so me and another guy took it all apart...in an attempt to fix it.....took about 2 1/2 hours to break it down and put it back together. It still screeched as it needed some new parts that we didn't have......this guy came along while we were loading a trailer, heard the screeching and reached into the drive to shake the clutch or something.....drive chain grabbed his glove and hauled him into the sprocket.....twisted him up about a half turn and two of his fingers went halfway around the 12" sprocket before it stalled the 2 hoss electric motor......he didn't think it was a good idea to reverse him back out of it so we had to disassemble the drive with him in there......took about an hour to get him out......would have been a lot longer had we not just taken the whole thing apart.......when he got free he pulls off the glove...two fingers stayed in the glove......he fainted dead away.....the boss took him to the hospital and they put his fingers back on.....he didn't have any interest in going back to work there.....he was one of those "back to the earthers" that arrived here in the late 60' and early 70's.....had no experience in anything rural or mechanical in nature.....hard way to learn........

 

[tbone75]

You guys make my fingers hurt !!!

 

[pioneerguy600]

YeeeeeeOUCH!!! Worked at a peatbog plant one time.....we had a big electric conveyor to load bags of peat aboard tractor trailers......the clutch was screeching so me and another guy took it all apart...in an attempt to fix it.....took about 2 1/2 hours to break it down and put it back together. It still screeched as it needed some new parts that we didn't have......this guy came along while we were loading a trailer, heard the screeching and reached into the drive to shake the clutch or something.....drive chain grabbed his glove and hauled him into the sprocket.....twisted him up about a half turn and two of his fingers went halfway around the 12" sprocket before it stalled the 2 hoss electric motor......he didn't think it was a good idea to reverse him back out of it so we had to disassemble the drive with him in there......took about an hour to get him out......would have been a lot longer had we not just taken the whole thing apart.......when he got free he pulls off the glove...two fingers stayed in the glove......he fainted dead away.....the boss took him to the hospital and they put his fingers back on.....he didn't have any interest in going back to work there.....he was one of those "back to the earthers" that arrived here in the late 60' and early 70's.....had no experience in anything rural or mechanical in nature.....hard way to learn........

Thing is,Clary was a real good mechanic, very smart guy around gear so whatever possessed him to do that stupid trick neither he or anyone else could figure. He kept that finger even though it was mangled n crooked just to remind himself neveah to do something that stupid again and it worked so far. We did a lot of modifying and building from scratch back when, he was good on gear ratios ,RPM and getting power to the ground. First project was to cut a 59 Plymouth Savoy and make a truck/car out of it,did a real nice job,all metal with complicated bends n such. Had the handle at the track of, Mr Shifter, could get more from a 4 spd Muncie than anyone ever ran these tracks, lightning reflexes. Talk about a guy that was fast with his hands, good fist fighter he was!

 

[pioneerguy600]

You guys make my fingers hurt !!!

There was a good bit of dancing and contortions so I heard , some blue air about as well!! Least it happened and was over in the blink of an eye.

 

[farrell]

Slack over here!

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[Cantdog]

That's why they call us Slackerz, Adam........

 

[Jimmy in NC]

That's why they call us Slackerz, Adam........

Makes sense.

 

[Cantdog]

Makes sense.

Uuuumhum.......I thought so......I had a moment of clarity....LOL!!

 

[Cantdog]

Project is coming along.......got the Jeep base installed......took a can and half of Easy Off and lots of scrubbing to get down to bare metal inside the oil pan....

 

[pioneerguy600]

Looking great Robin, nice clean grease/oil free engine to install.