I know this is a stupid question, but just to refresh the memory, what are the specs; power, weight, and cc please.
The 562xp in the flesh. So to speak.
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I've got the owner's manual here, and the weight is stated as 12.3 pounds. The 555 is listed as 11.9 pounds.
I think it's safe to say at this point that the saws weigh approximately 12 pounds. It is a 12 pound saw. I'm calling it a 12 pounder. To you Euros, it says 5,6kg.
And in case anybody is still confused on how or why an AutoTune saw has no adjustments, and may want to know how it works - I will type verbatim what it says in the manual in this regard.
AutoTune
If the engine is equipped with AutuTune, manual adjustment of the carburettor's H and L needles and the T-screw no longer applies. Both needles and the T-screw have been removed. AutoTune is a function that adjusts the carburettor electronically, always resulting in optimal adjustment.
Function
The carburetor governs the engine's speed via the throttle control. Air and fuel are mixed in the carburetor. The air/fuel mixture is adjustable.
The automatic adjustment of the carburettor means that the engine is adapted to local conditions, e.g. the climate, altitude, petrol and the type of 2-stroke oil. This function is controlled by AutoTune.
Engine Adjustment
The following steps should be taken when the chain saw is started for the first time or when outside circumstances change (fuel, altitude, air filter, etc.): Start the engine. Accelerate the engine to full throttle and saw a number of cuts in a thick log (3-5min.).
The chain saw must be run (8,000-12,000rpm) the entire time so that the carburettor can adjust itself.
To give you guys a little further information (this is all out of my head from observation), I would call this very similar to a DPM setup on a Ski-Doo snowmobile. A solenoid controlled electronically, changing the air/fuel ratio as needed depending on conditions. This setup takes more variables into account than the DPM setup does, but I assume it is similar in control from the looks of it.
I think it's safe to say at this point that the saws weigh approximately 12 pounds. It is a 12 pound saw. I'm calling it a 12 pounder. To you Euros, it says 5,6kg.
And in case anybody is still confused on how or why an AutoTune saw has no adjustments, and may want to know how it works - I will type verbatim what it says in the manual in this regard.
AutoTune
If the engine is equipped with AutuTune, manual adjustment of the carburettor's H and L needles and the T-screw no longer applies. Both needles and the T-screw have been removed. AutoTune is a function that adjusts the carburettor electronically, always resulting in optimal adjustment.
Function
The carburetor governs the engine's speed via the throttle control. Air and fuel are mixed in the carburetor. The air/fuel mixture is adjustable.
The automatic adjustment of the carburettor means that the engine is adapted to local conditions, e.g. the climate, altitude, petrol and the type of 2-stroke oil. This function is controlled by AutoTune.
Engine Adjustment
The following steps should be taken when the chain saw is started for the first time or when outside circumstances change (fuel, altitude, air filter, etc.): Start the engine. Accelerate the engine to full throttle and saw a number of cuts in a thick log (3-5min.).
The chain saw must be run (8,000-12,000rpm) the entire time so that the carburettor can adjust itself.
To give you guys a little further information (this is all out of my head from observation), I would call this very similar to a DPM setup on a Ski-Doo snowmobile. A solenoid controlled electronically, changing the air/fuel ratio as needed depending on conditions. This setup takes more variables into account than the DPM setup does, but I assume it is similar in control from the looks of it.
Here you go, boys. I unveil to you, the brandy new 562xp. What do you think?
Gross weight is listed right on the box. A true logger's dream. Accurate +/- 12.3 pounds.
I figured it was pleated on the bottom. I hear you about the older saws, but it's not an older saw, it should have a paper element, IMHO All modern saws should. I've been hard on all saws that have felt filters. The much loved 361 has a POS filter, same with the stock 7900 filter. Sure for most it's not going to be an issue in any way, but it still bothers me when I see corners being cut.
This is how the filter should look IMHO.
Take no offense to what I'm saying, I'm very critical with most things and I'm always looking for flaws. The 562 is an intriguing saw and a big step forward overall.
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sawinredneck
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I was liking it until I saw the primer bulb! Really? Do we need to revert to that cheesy crap?
Mountainman6288
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555 vs 562xp. Im up in the air. I like the 555 Waranty, but the extra puch of a 562. Either will kick the **** out of my 257
Mountainman6288
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Being a Ski-Doo guy, thanks for the great Write Up. DPM was good, but boy we are now spoiled with E-Tec, and SDi wasnt anything to sneeze at. I think the Autotune will be good, without the high cost of injection systems.
Nothing wrong with primers, but no real need for one either, especially with auto tune.
sunfish
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OK, now I'm even more interested!
How does the weight feel between the two, just feel no need for a scientific comparison.
I figured it was pleated on the bottom. I hear you about the older saws, but it's not an older saw, it should have a paper element, IMHO All modern saws should. I've been hard on all saws that have felt filters. The much loved 361 has a POS filter, same with the stock 7900 filter. Sure for most it's not going to be an issue in any way, but it still bothers me when I see corners being cut.
This is how the filter should look IMHO.
Take no offense to what I'm saying, I'm very critical with most things and I'm always looking for flaws. The 562 is an intriguing saw and a big step forward overall.
I'm curious as to why you don't like the felt? I can understand the mesh filters as they tend to be a tad on the light side, but the felt has proven reliable in the saws I've seen. The only deal with the pleated filters is it can allow slightly longer intervals between cleanings, but crap gets built up so much in there that it's a whole lot more time consuming to clean. I don't see it as cutting corners, it should work just fine.
On another note, I don't recognize the filter on the saw you posted. It looks like a 440 to me, but would have to assume it's a 362 as it's what we're comparing this saw to?
I think the air filtration of the 562 is going to be just fine. One thing I felt tonight after firing up the saw was quite the force of air flowing across my throttle hand. I think the air injection has been improved on this saw.
Either way, I don't mean to sound like I'm debating you. I just don't see the downfall of the filter.
Problems with a primer bulb? I really don't get why people are so afraid of them. Do you only shop for weed whackers and lawn mowers that don't come with primer bulbs?
Mountainman6288
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Somebody needs to do a"" Freezer test"" with one of these saws, to see how they work when its really cold out.
The Stihl M tronic guys say they start their saws, and are cutting within seconds, no time needed for the carb to warm up.
But id never doo that cutting with cold cylinders, asking for cold seizure...........
The Stihl M tronic guys say they start their saws, and are cutting within seconds, no time needed for the carb to warm up.
But id never doo that cutting with cold cylinders, asking for cold seizure...........
TK POWER every felt filter I've used lets fine dust passed. Maybe it's an issue maybe not, I treat them all with filter oil and it stopped everything. The filter in question is from a 261. My 362 has a prefilter and a main filter that is felt. The early 311 came without the prefilter and they had complaints of dust getting passed the filter, so they now come with the prefilter. From what I know nothing beats the modern paper like elements. I'm sure the filter will work OK but it is a cheap filter end of story, all felt filter are IMHO.
Here is the filter from my 362.
Here is the filter from my 362.
mweba
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How does the weight feel between the two, just feel no need for a scientific comparison.
Weight feels the same or so damn close I can't tell. Two things I've noticed. With a 20 the 357 tips forward when holding the top handle and the 555 does not. Balance is great. The other thing is, and this is hard to explain, I would have guessed the 357 to whoop it. The 357 just screams and feels faster while the 555 does more work with less noise and effort. Meaning, you can really feel the 357 cut and the 555 is smoooth with out being sloppy. Honestly even "thinking" it was slower, I would grab it every time.
Almost six tanks down and yes fines are getting through. K&N oil is my friend or maybe I should learn to sharpen a chain:biggrin:
Mitch I know exactly what you mean, it just cuts with screaming and yelling. I can't tell you how many times people have ram my stock 7900 and thought it was just OK, then they seen the cut times, same could be said about the 575/576.
Maybe one of these days I'll buy a file or two.:cool2:
Maybe one of these days I'll buy a file or two.:cool2:
MacLaren
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That 562XP is gonna be a damn MAD MAN!! LOL!!
sawinredneck
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Yep, had lots of problems with primer bulbs, all at the wrong time! Had the primer bulb rupture on a Homelite weadeater I was running years ago. Doesn't sound like much of a problem, but it was a strap on model, blowing fuel on a hot muffler. Try and get rid of a flame throwing weedeater strapped on to you and tell me how you feel about primer bulbs!
TK POWER every felt filter I've used lets fine dust passed. Maybe it's an issue maybe not, I treat them all with filter oil and it stopped everything. The filter in question is from a 261. My 362 has a prefilter and a main filter that is felt. The early 311 came without the prefilter and they had complaints of dust getting passed the filter, so they now come with the prefilter. From what I know nothing beats the modern paper like elements. I'm sure the filter will work OK but it is a cheap filter end of story, all felt filter are IMHO.
Here is the filter from my 362.
Ok that's what I was looking for - I haven't had any issues with felt filters letting fines get through. Graned, I don't cut as much as others but any time I've pulled the filter I haven't seen so much as a spec in there. When I do go cut it's not cookies for fun. Up at camp it's either split with an axe, no maul there, or use the saw. I've ripped plenty of wood (IMO) to effectively split it without issue. Then again it's been 2-4 tanks of fuel at a time. I don't typically go wild at camp.
But if others are having issues with felt filters letting fines through then I would say it's a bigger deal. There are other options for filters for this saw, but they are the mesh variants. Maybe down the road something else will come available.
Does anything get by the felt filter in the 362? Or is that cured by essentially having two filters?
