the all aussie dribble thread!

[MCW]

I hope that y'all will forgive me for butting in on your thread, but I'm curious to know your opinions and knowledge of Archer Australia chainsaw bars. They're showing up on eBay (USA) for cheap, & my research isn't giving me much info.

TIA!

I think you'll find that they are simply Chinese made bars rebadged with a customer's name. I could get my own line of bars done up within a week named "Riverland Sawchain" if I wanted out of China.
From what I've seen they have the Oregon nose which is standard Chinese fare and at the price they are selling for there is no way they'd be rebadged genuine Oregons.

 

[Chris J.]

I think you'll find that they are simply Chinese made bars rebadged with a customer's name. I could get my own line of bars done up within a week named "Riverland Sawchain" if I wanted out of China.
From what I've seen they have the Oregon nose which is standard Chinese fare and at the price they are selling for there is no way they'd be rebadged genuine Oregons.
If I remember correctly Archer is a company owned by one of the guys involved with Jakmax (Australian Carlton importers and distributors) and is predominantly sold overseas.

So Archer isn't an obscure brand that matches the quality of the original GB bars made in Australia? So much for my wishful thinking :rolleyes2: .

 

[MCW]

So Archer isn't an obscure brand that matches the quality of the original GB bars made in Australia? So much for my wishful thinking :rolleyes2: .

Afraid not. I just saw a few images on eBay and definitely Chinese made. I have a few of the exact same bars (unbranded) with the exact same noses and markings in the shed. They are actually not too bad though to be honest, especially for the price. I can buy the 28" replaceable sprocket nosed bars (Oregon knock offs) for USD$12 + freight. Pricing out of China is unbelievable. Interestingly the Archer bars are using GB bar mount codes and even the bar package labels look similar to the GB ones. GB don't use an Oregon style nose though. Also rest assured that GB bars aren't necessarily what they used to be either. I had one of their newer Arbor Pro bars last less than 10 tanks on my 241C although GB did replace it. Bar rails were as soft as icecream.

 

[lumberjackau]

I have no experience and no idea, but what tyre pressures was that one in the vid running? any chance it would see any gains dropping some psi?

We are not running water in the tyres atm, when we get back into steeper country the water would go back in. With no water psi is in the mid 20's, any lower and you get sidewall failure and debeading issues.

 

[husq2100]

We are not running water in the tyres atm, when we get back into steeper country the water would go back in. With no water psi is in the mid 20's, any lower and you get sidewall failure and debeading issues.

sounds like time for some mechanical bead locks

 

[460cixy]

22 with a shhh on the end.

I like that Idea and may still be on the cards. It seems it has pissed off back from where its came from ile be keeping an eye out for it

 

[ozflea]

I saw 49 guests round 6.00pm, I was amaised how popular this little thread is.

Na their just waiting on the old fella from downunder to crack .................. how's that new enquiry going Neil is he a threat ?

And TV is dead and boring

 

[ausneil 1]

Afraid not. I just saw a few images on eBay and definitely Chinese made. I have a few of the exact same bars (unbranded) with the exact same noses and markings in the shed. They are actually not too bad though to be honest, especially for the price. I can buy the 28" replaceable sprocket nosed bars (Oregon knock offs) for USD$12 + freight. Pricing out of China is unbelievable. Interestingly the Archer bars are using GB bar mount codes and even the bar package labels look similar to the GB ones. GB don't use an Oregon style nose though. Also rest assured that GB bars aren't necessarily what they used to be either. I had one of their newer Arbor Pro bars last less than 10 tanks on my 241C although GB did replace it. Bar rails were as soft as icecream.[/QUOTE]


Matches the chain Matt, even wear, makes perfect sence to me.
:monkey:

sounds like time for some mechanical bead locks

chains on the front and water,,,, they will scrap then. A total pain but if the machine is skipping around on flat going, they bounce a lot empty with no water but.

 

[ausneil 1]

I like that Idea and may still be on the cards. It seems it has pissed off back from where its came from ile be keeping an eye out for it

I meant to ask you the other day a little on this 2100, guessing that's the stinger sitting under the saw.
Would you tell us how long have you owned that saw, or did you build it, have you race it ect ect.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/460cixy/DSC00317.jpg

 

[MCW]

Matches the chain Matt, even wear, makes perfect sence to me.

The other major issue I've seen with some of this Chinese chain apart from inconsistent metallurgy is also their inability to carry enough oil around. I've had a number of Chinese chains literally disappear into a cloud of smoke when the going gets tough despite ample oil being thrown - this heat also results in a heap of chain stretch, nearly instantly. They are simply not designed well enough for adequate lubrication to reach the tiestraps and rivets unlike the more proven brands. THere is obviously more to chain design than just getting them to hold an edge! (who would have thunk it?).
In greener timber you don't notice but get them in an old lump of hard Eucalypt and bingo
I even spoke with an engineer from a Chinese chain making company about this and he seemed interested in fixing the problem. Next time I emailed him I was told he no longer worked for the company Ah the joys of communism - he was probably being monitored closely and fired for even acknowledging there was a problem. Same manufacturer as that .404" semi chisel I gave you to play with.

 

[460cixy]

I meant to ask you the other day a little on this 2100, guessing that's the stinger sitting under the saw.
Would you tell us how long have you owned that saw, or did you build it, have you race it ect ect.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/460cixy/DSC00317.jpg

I was lucky enough to Inherit the saw off dad it has a bit of history the old man was a husky/stihl dealer from about 1980 till around 91 the saw was built by the old boy and gent from husqvarna ported piped and had the carb reemed it used to get raced at local shows by the old boy around bega eden bombala area sadly that carb is now missing and has a stock carb in its place. A few years ago the old boy moved to qld and run in to money troubles and put that saw and a couple of others on consignment at a noosa outdoor joint and lucky for me they for some reason never sold. One day out of the blue dad rings me up and says do you want these ****** saws I'm moveing to Darwin so a few calls had them on a truck to my door. It's just a saw but it means the world to me the memory's of knocking about with dad when I was a kid going to shows ect

 

[460cixy]

So what's every one up to tonight?

I'm siting around this haveing a few silver bullets wondering what the poor ppl are doing

 

[MCW]

I'm siting around this haveing a few silver bullets wondering what the poor ppl are doing

I'm recovering from one of the worst bloody flus I've ever had but managed to crawl down to the shed and finally got an old, nearly knackered, Dolmar 9000 running. It's been a nightmare this thing. The customer brought it in with just a "split fuel line". IN the end it had seized, needed a new piston and rings, carby kit, fuel line, coil, then found out that there was a coil/flywheel change so needed a new flywheel too. A $30 fuel line for the customer has cost him $450. It should have cost him more.
Oh and it's raining here. Farmers are peeing their pants in excitement.

 

[MCW]

I was lucky enough to Inherit the saw off dad it has a bit of history the old man was a husky/stihl dealer from about 1980 till around 91 the saw was built by the old boy and gent from husqvarna ported piped and had the carb reemed it used to get raced at local shows by the old boy around bega eden bombala area sadly that carb is now missing and has a stock carb in its place. A few years ago the old boy moved to qld and run in to money troubles and put that saw and a couple of others on consignment at a noosa outdoor joint and lucky for me they for some reason never sold. One day out of the blue dad rings me up and says do you want these ****** saws I'm moveing to Darwin so a few calls had them on a truck to my door. It's just a saw but it means the world to me the memory's of knocking about with dad when I was a kid going to shows ect

That's a cool story. I bet some bastard pinched the carb at some point thinking nobody would notice.
By the way, Neil (ausneil1) hates Husqvarna 2100's. He can't stand them. Worst saw on earth he reckons

HINT: You'll never get rid of him now...

 

[460cixy]

I used to get em in with starter cords busted and you would ask is it hard to start? Nah mate just fix the cord couple days later there always back for a new cord and oh mate can you check it over it won't start :taped:

 

[460cixy]

That's a cool story. I bet some bastard pinched the carb at some point thinking nobody would notice.
By the way, Neil (ausneil1) hates Husqvarna 2100's. He can't stand them. Worst saw on earth he reckons

HINT: You'll never get rid of him now...

I know where the carb went. When I was in high school I built a 2100 out of parts we had laying around. Any how the old man was useing that saw milling in qld and it poped it's clogs so to get the job done the standard carb and exhaust went on the race saw along with the bar and chain and it never got put back on. I have no idea what he was thinking at the time any how the bits are at my sisters place in gympie no chance of ever getting them back she hates my guts

 

[MCW]

I know where the carb went. When I was in high school I built a 2100 out of parts we had laying around. Any how the old man was useing that saw milling in qld and it poped it's clogs so to get the job done the standard carb and exhaust went on the race saw along with the bar and chain and it never got put back on. I have no idea what he was thinking at the time any how the bits are at my sisters place in gympie no chance of ever getting them back she hates my guts

Bummer. That sucks.

 

[tjcoogan]

Dumb ways to die

Evening

A neat little video from Metro not sure if you seen this before. Catchy little tune.
[video=youtube;IJNR2EpS0jw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw[/video]

 

[460cixy]

That's a corker

 

[MCW]

Not sure if any of you guys are going to rush to the cinema to catch a new movie coming out called Sharknado but looks awesome. Guy even cuts a flying shark in half with a chainsaw. Classy looking film...not...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwsqFR5bh6Q